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MissNurki posted a topic in [EU] Professional Pro Gamering: stronk tenks and stronk taktiksIt's NOT just a game, brah Who we are: Casual clan with skilled players are looking to expand and close in on a 100% activity rate. We play tier 10 skirmishes regularly, tier 8 skirmishes daily, tier 6 when the clubbers feel like it, and we have cred bonus every day. We have several FCs in our clan that lead tier 10 skirmishes, and we freeplay at tier 8. Our Financial Unit is level 10, so cred bonus is 50% as of today. When the new patch hits we'll aim higher. We're a bunch of relaxed and mature guys(and Nurki), that isn't afraid to banter and have a good laugh, while still performing. We do NOT play CW as it isn't rewarding anymore, apart form the occasional campaigns that we will tryhard for the members that want to do it. Last tier 10 campaign was a success, everyone that wanted a tank(and played) got a tank. We're respectful of our members personal lives, with families and work, so we don't keep a timer for how long you're online on a daily, but we do expect you to show up when you can and do your part in earning boxes for bonuses. What you should be: Active, social and in for a good laugh- while having the skills needed to perform well in teamplay. No dramaqueen that has a Mariah Carey meltdown over bad RNG, or being TK'd by one of our many triggerhappy members. Have an open mind and be respectful of our valuable FCs, and you'll become one of the guys very quickly. Stats should preferably be above 2450 wn8 overall, and a higher recent. We will however consider you if you have a solid background in teamplay, is very active and have 2200 wn8+. Filthy leechers will be kicked, boy bye. Contact: We've gone bit away from TS3, and we're mostly using Discord. It works very well, we have different rooms for different topics, a nice hangout where you can interact with the clan. Feel free to join us just to chill and be social-ish. Discord: https://discord.gg/YUyDhqh Teamspeak: 18.104.22.168:10146 Teamspeak will be open for a while longer, feel free to drop by, but you won't find many people hanging around as we're all in Discord.
For a long time I've held the opinion that what the playerbase knows about clan wars and WG is a little detached since not many of their staff have ever participated in it (unsure of the situation in RU/EU though). I've watched the playerbase crap all over the campaigns that WG has suggested and implemented. Most experienced players will agree that the Rise of Americas event was horrible, and the current campaign started off pretty terrible, but over the stages we've slowly creeped back to "normality" of the best clans vs the rest with only a little ego-based infighting between the major powers. WG has been throwing gold hand over fist at the campaigns which has been making the community accept it and swallow it because lets be honest it's pretty damn profitable. While I can see and appreciate some of the goals WG is trying to achieve with the Campaign system, I also see them fighting with the player backed status quo and very little actually changing. I've had my thinking cap on over the last couple of weeks and have been thinking of some campaign based events which could achieve the goals that (I assume) Wargaming wants to accomplish, while adding the experienced play perspective to actually ensure that these goals are met and at the end of the day, this being a game and all, it should be fun and rewarding. So here are the goals I think WG is going for: Increase total number of players actively participating in Clan Wars. Increase total number of clans present at any given time on the clan wars map. Drive player retention through dynamic challenges instead of static landholding. Thanks to these goals/initiatives, we have seen things such as: Stages with a specific clan wars mechanic as the focus which provides slight changes to the chip movements and strategies. Total gold paid out by WG being increased several fold. WG actually taking an interest in their CW community! However we have also seen some of the negative effects: Clans disbanding due to various stages of burnout, not-caring-any-more, an overwhelmed leadership. Down tiering to low tiers (I see this as a negative, as does every clan wars veteran). The top tier clans wanting the rewards, so in general banding together against the newer ones. There are others to add to these lists, but that generally covers how I see it currently working. I've seen plenty of threads and read plenty of posts where many CW veterans are calling WG out for various screw ups, changes they don't support to the meta, removing high tier clan wars for weeks, and most of all, completely failing to include the little guy in the CW scene as they desperately promised to. However, I've never seen a counter proposal to Wargaming that has survived the first 5 minutes of scrutiny from the veterans; and the ones that do usually have obvious flaws (by design or otherwise) which makes the proposal unacceptable to WG. So... here's my attempt. My goals for the campaign: Increase the total number of CW participants and clans participating on the map at any one given time - in line with WG's goals. Add incentive for clans to want to combat other clans of their own calibre. Reduce the effectiveness of 'super alliances'. What I mean here, is that allied clans and subclans can't benefit from the fighting performance of the main clan, as the main clan will be too busy dealing with their own side of the fence to be wielded as a threat. Battles. There should be many. I should never hear Ziddy say "we only have the landing tonight in 3 hours" ever again. Nerf Diplomacy. I miss the days where 3-4 clans were considered allies and everyone else was hostile. Provide ample landing opportunities for all clans to participate through. Many landings also = shorter tournaments. That seems like a big ask, but I wrote most of those with a mechanic in mind to achieve each stage of the Campaign (i think stages are a good idea!). So, with the rambling kinda over I would like to share with you my draft of a better campaign. Campaign 2: "High Stakes Terror-tory" Campaign Length: 5 Weeks (35 days) Campaign-long rules: Increase gold worth of all provinces worth less than 300 gold/day so that no territory is worth less than 300 gold/day. Critical provinces where daily value is > 3k/day has the gold value reduced by ~25%. Set Landing zones on every coastal province of the Western Coast. Every 2nd province on every Eastern coastal territory, and every 3rd on Greenland (a map of what I think is best will come later). Tank Locking is disabled for the duration of the campaign. Pre-stage 1: Map Wipe + Chip reset. All Provinces set to Civilian Owned. Stage 1: Territorial Steak Dinner Goal: Populate the map, limit clans to small territories. Rules: Ransacking Disabled. Riot chance for every territory set to (10% * number of provinces owned by that clan, connected to the HQ or not). Tier limitations set to Tier 8 for the whole stage. Province HQ is located on cannot Riot if HQ has been present for > 2 turns. Counterspies provide no changes to Riot Chance. Day 1: Every non-critical province set to be a landing zone for Day 1 only. Day 2: Incite a riot on every critical province (important: not a landing). Set Landing zones on every 2nd province on every coastal territory (every 3rd on Greenland). Days 3-7: Set Landing zones on every 2nd province on every coastal territory (every 3rd on Greenland). Victory Point Distribution: Every province captured by Landing: +2500 VP Every province captured by Riot: +4000 VP Successful Landing Defense: +1500 VP Successful Riot Defense: +1000 VP 1 VP awarded for holding provinces per 2 Gold awarded by that province. All VP awarded by critical provinces (taking by riot, riot defenses and land holding) are doubled. Why this will work: Harsh Rioting will prevent clans from owning too large of a stake of property. Clans will be required to field multiple teams per night and simultaneously if they want to hold more than 3-4 provinces. Small clans will be able to take advantage of this and get in, especially as it is tier 8 combat. Standard critical provinces should spread the good clans around the map but also provide ample opportunity for mid tier clans to enter via Riot, and small clans to enter via Landings. The Riots on the 2nd day are just an interesting addition for clans to land in specific areas after the first day land grab is done - this will be hard to manipulate any benefit from, but will provide a theatre for upsets. Stage 2: Neighborhood Watch Goals: Encourage combat in the areas around landing zones. Give the top clans something else to do. Rules: Rioting enabled with double rioting chance compared to standard. Province HQ is located on cannot Riot if HQ has been present for > 2 turns. Ransacking a province provides 3 days gold income with 3 days cooldown. Day 1-4: Tier 10s. Day 5-8: Tier 9s. Day 9-12: Tier 8s. Victory Point Distribution: Every chip removed from the map by your clan rewards 100 VP. All provinces provide 50 VP per hour held. All VP awarded by critical provinces are doubled. Ransacking a province provides no VP, only 3 days worth of gold. Provinces that are ransacked provide no VP by any method and have 100% chance to Riot for the duration of the ransack. Why this will work: Well, the objectives here is time for battles to take place without some crazy mechanic going on. Clans earn VP by fighting, and this isn't exploitable as land holding clans can't stop rioting while spamming 2-3 stacks at each other, while a clan that is only holding 1-2 provinces certainly can. Small and mid-tier clans can battle and complete for VP while the bigger clans start getting in position and posturing for stage 3. By providing the mid/small clans with different objectives (ie, coastal) to the big boys (set up centrally for stage 3), there should be ample room for all. By being able to ransack to ensure a riot, this will enable top lvl clans to bring their subclans and friends in near the gold pot regions to ensure competition. Stage 3: The Wealthy Get Wealthier Goals: Give the major clans/alliances a reason to fight each other. Rules: Ransacking Disabled. Standard Riot Mechanics. Spies and Counterspies have 1/2 cost and training time. Map wealth rebalanced as follows: All provinces on map rebalanced to provide 300-600 gold per day. All critical provinces become standard provinces. The following provinces become critical provinces and worth 7.5k/day. Western Zone: Ogden, GoldBelt, and Vegas. Eastern Zone: Fort Knox, Cumberland Plateau, The Purchase and Johnson City. Northern Zone: Wood Buffalo, Central Saskatchewan and Norman. Every landing zone, where the landing is not the only province held by a clan gets claimed by Civilians and will be available for landing on Day 1. Day 1-4: Tier 8s. Day 5-7: Tier 9s. Day 8-14: Tier 10s. Victory Point Distribution: Taking an enemy clan's HQ rewards 2000 VP. Defending a Landing or a Riot rewards 500 VP. Each normal province generates 1 VP per gold. Critical provinces generate VP daily @ prime time based on: Critical Provinces Held * Days Held * 1000. Critical provinces generate an additional 1000 gold and VP per day if a clans HQ has been present on it for more than 12 hours prior to primetime. Why this will work: Mainly, greed it why this stage will work. There isn't enough critical provinces for all of the big boys to each get a share of what they want. As this is one of the stages where the winners are most easily controlled the big clans are gonna be going head first at each other over those critical provinces. Even if they are diplomatically split up and shared, there is a high chance of back-stabbing and alliance jumping. All the big boys will need to hunker down and brawl it out while the rest of the map does it's thing. The 'landings claimed by civilians' thing is so that the top clans competing in the centre cannot hold the landings in addition, this will ensure gud fites on both fronts, and/or a supporting clan in the rear. More clans will mean more chaos. Stage 4: And It All Burns Down Goals: Big epic brawl to end it on. A quick big world war to make sure all the trash talking gets done and the egos get stroked/upset. Rules: All Landing Zones removed. Riots and Ransacking Disabled. Spies and Counterspies have 1/2 cost and training time. Map wealth redistributed as per Stage 1. HQ takes 72 hours to respawn. Day 1-9: Tier 10s. Victory Point Distribution: Mapping a clan's last territory: 2000 VP Killing a clan's HQ: 2000 VP. Doing both of the above at the same time: 5000VP total. (1000 bonus VP). Every chip removed from the map by your clan rewards 50 VP. 1 VP awarded for holding provinces per 2 Gold awarded by that province. At the end of the stage, 2 million VP will be split evenly among the the remaining clans present on the map, no matter how many provinces are owned. Why this will work: Because it sounds like the CW that I've always wanted, and a big world war pissing contest is the best way to do this. This lets clans pick on each other, and provides adequate incentive to war on each other. Tier 10s baby, lets roll. This is 9 days of bleeding edge focused combat, where clans get to showdown and talk the talk. This isn't great for participation for all, but needs to be done to ensure the new players and the veterans are catered for alike. At the end of the campaign (all 4 stages), VP will be converted to gold for clans at a rate of 1:1. I think with some medals and a free t10 tank, that would actually be worth competing in. I think I've ticked the boxes for new player involvement, existing player involvement, disrupting the diplomatic status quo, ensuring a good supply of good fights, and have a narrative campaign wise that makes sense. ------ What do y'all think? Would you like to see something like this?