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In a probably useless effort to mediate the ever returning threads of often mediocre players demanding the addition of expected values for their new toys (in the vain hope their stats will get an insignificant boost to a value no one cares about), I will compile in this stickied thread the reasons for their loss. Most of this information is originally from our resident statistical lump of gold, @RichardNixon 1. Why are new tanks not giving me stats: - WG does not always immediately release the stats of newly added tanks in the API, meaning that WoTLabs cannot read the data to be included into its calculations. - Added to this: WN8 data doesn't typically include any tank details except the ID. Sites used to do automated encyclopedia lookups, but WG murdered half their API team a few months ago, and no new tanks are currently being added. For example: The Mutz was in the newer tankopedia API and the KR was in the deprecated one. The M41 isn't in either/ Not all is lost though: Sites (like WoTLabs) have to enter the name, tier, class etc manually. The data's there in the API though. This, however, takes time and manual labour, and known expected values (or replacement values). It's not always easy either, as for example, there are two M41 90s in the API. The GF version (ID 50961) has something like 30-40k players on EU, while the plain one (ID 64017) has one player on EU and ~100 on RU, which is typical for supertest tanks. 2. Why are other sites giving me stats for this tank and WoTLabs not? - WN8 didn't define a method for handling missing expected values, so sites vary. Some methods will universally inflate WN8, while others are in the right ballpark for most tanks or most accounts. - A lot of sites pull updates automatically from wnefficiency.net. If that's not updated, then nothing happens though, unless replacement values are being used. Sites and session mods sometimes pick their own values for missing tanks when the official expected values are taking too long to update. - WoTLabs "official" WN8 works with "official" expected values for each tank, using replacement values from other similar tanks, still need internal discussion, much like a full update of the WN8 expected values. This takes time. TL:DR Tanks will get added sooner or later. WN is a measure only relevant over larger number of battles. Replacement values also take time as enough players (and not only the good ones that free xp or grind faster) should have played the tank to get a relevant sample. Lastly: The people who take care of all this, do this voluntarily and in their own free time. They have no obligations to anyone, least of all to a random dude who's irky because his overal or recent meaningless value is temporarily slightly lower than it might otherwise be. Additionally: If you were referred to this thread because you made a thread about this subject without first checking this stickied thread, you are bad and should feel bad.
I am planning on playing the SHIT out of the new light tanks when 9.3 comes around, and in extension of this I started wondering: How is the expected value determined for a new set of tanks that are introduced? Is it taken off data from test servers, Russian server (since they get it a day or two before EU/NA/SEA) or similar already existing tanks? I am not that bothered about what WN8 I need to pad in them and so on, since the expected values will be adjusted later on (I assume). I was just wondering about this question since I couldn't come up with a reasonable answer myself.