WN8 Expected Values updated to v15

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Howdy!

 

Thanks to Phalynx who quickly updated the JSON source with the newest table, WoTLabs has just updated to the latest version of the expected values table. Your ratings may take a few hours to update.

 

Special thanks to Gryphon and everyone who worked hard to update the table!

 

The new table can be seen here:

http://wotlabs.net/na/wnTable

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So expect dmg for Type 59 is 1079 , what would you roughly need to do for deep purple ?

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So expect dmg for Type 59 is 1079 , what would you roughly need to do for deep purple ?

 ROUGHLY 1600

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Is it possible to have access to both tables for comparison?

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Sweet.  Good work Never/Gryphon.

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[snip].  I also would like a link to the previous version for comparisons, if possible?

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Is it possible to have access to both tables for comparison?

^^

Maybe put changes next to it?

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Is it possible to have access to both tables for comparison?

 

^^

Maybe put changes next to it?

 

Both tables in one, with change delta.

 

http://content.screencast.com/users/pboyland/folders/WN8/media/dd9a38fe-0647-44e4-9999-4f8ce1a2cf81/new_expected_values_06_19.xlsx?downloadOnly=true

 

Edit:

Not made by me, found it in the WN8 thread.

Edited by _Goliard

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[snip]. Nifty. Thanks for the update, Never.

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 ROUGHLY 1600

For that estimate do you just take the target damage and multiply by 1.5?

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For that estimate do you just take the target damage and multiply by 1.5?

I too would like to know how this works.

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Swag overload courtesy of goliard.  Thanks m8.

 

Edit: apparently a -10.64 delta on the eDAMAGE for the 13 90 is the majority of the reason why my rating jumped 80 points

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That is a very rough estimate, yes. Keep in mind that there are other items in the formula besides dmg. But it's pretty safe to say that if you do 1.5x the expected dmg with a kill or two, you'll be purple.

 

For that estimate do you just take the target damage and multiply by 1.5?

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1676 for T-62A... what a joke.

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1676 for T-62A... what a joke.

 

is that lower or higher than before?

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is that lower or higher than before?

 

It's lower by like 5 points.  Not really much change.

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lower, but by like <10.  Also e50 expected went down lol.  y I sell e50 shuld just be a filthy paddderrr

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It's lower by like 5 points.  Not really much change.

 

Changed or not, it's still a joke.

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Changed or not, it's still a joke.

 

Y u heff to be mad

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But... why was t62a expected damage lowered?? i mean.. he is the stat padding tank of the moment and you make it even easier to stat pad? wut.. im lost.

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But... why was t62a expected damage lowered?? i mean.. he is the stat padding tank of the moment and you make it even easier to stat pad? wut.. im lost.

Maybe many people are padding very poorly in it?

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@ people saying T62 is too low, T62 is lower as MAUS, GG, wn8...

 

from this post down:

 

my Wn8 went up 30 points or so, not much change

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Great players can play great in great tanks.  Poor players (of which there are exponentially more of than great players) play poorly in great tanks.  

 

Just because 50 people figured out how to consistently post amazing numbers in one tank doesn't mean that there aren't 40,000+ other players pulling their numbers down across the entire sample size.

 

This version of the wn8 change comes directly from hard data, whereas some previous versions of the table included a few guesstimates for new tanks and specific penalties applied to certain tiers of tanks.  If you want to see how the tables were created from the data go here: 

 

If you feel like wn8 is wrong, then please feel free to develop wn9.  If you feel like the data source is limited and causing skew, please download and install the vbaddict.net ADU and contribute to the data set yourself.  The wn8 tables will be updated using this most recent methodology every 3 months, approximately.

 

From a mod perspective, please don't fill up Never's announcement with how much your stats changed.  Someone can make a shenanigans thread and everyone can post there.  Spam this thread full of "my stats went up/down by 20" and it'll be locked.  Thanks!

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Thanks Neverwish =)

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