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what do 4000 WN8 players do differently?

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currently i can sustain a 3k WN8 if i pay attention. how do 4000 WN8 players do it? please teach me sensei. (only respond if you are not farming WN8 in a T62A or something :P)

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Last time I checked this wasn't posted in shenanigans. Try to avoid shitposting.

 

Consistency is critical; staying alive and making sure you're always outputting damage will get you over the hump. Tank selection can help, obviously, but picking a tank with low expected values doesn't get you there magically. You need to be able to play it. 

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I sometimes get a 4k session then derp for 3-4 battles dealing dmg under my HP and it all goes to 3,4k-3k again. Answer i believe is not to get derpy or frustrated.

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Find your own mistakes and fix them. Use your time efficiently in battle, something like relocating can be very time consuming so being in a good position to start with helps.

Watch replays (like mine ;) ), pay attention to positioning and how the player reacts to different situations and try to plant a seed from that to your own gameplay. 

Try new things, play more aggressive/passive and see what happens and if you hadn't yet, learn the game mechanics (your tanks camo value, viewranges, rld times, everything) ''inside-out''.

Most importantly work your situation awareness, it reflects to all stats. Find something that keeps you focused and bring that to your games (music works for me).

Also know when to stop, if your doing bad and feeling frustrated maybe you should take a break.

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Like precam said, consistency is the key.
 
Of course, first of all you gotta be good enough to get there, then you gotta learn to be consistent, wich means staying alive for the longest time possible while being active (in one way or another) the whole time.. that being one of the biggest problems, since sometimes you gotta assume huge risks in order to be active/deal damage the whole time, so it resumes on your decision making skill and patience.
 
Yes, the choice of tanks affects it.. but you'll still need to be very good regardless of the tank choice. I suggest you watching a pack of replays from someone so you can see what they do different, and if you want to i can get you a pack of replays.. these are the tanks that im currently playing if youre interested in knowing : Amx 13 90 - Amx 50 100 - E 50 - T57 - T110e3 - Leopard - E100 - Bat chat - Amx50b - Is7 - Stb 1    (bolded ones being the most played ones) i play those tanks everyday.. yes i play other tanks sometimes but mostly only to do the x2 and thats it.

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Like precam said, consistency is the key.

No, consistency of tank selection is the key.  Let's look at actual 4k wn8 people.

 

Taken from noobmeter, 60 day 4k wn8 superstars:

http://www.noobmeter.com/serverTop/na/RecentWN8/

 

http://www.noobmeter.com/player/na/YatogamiTohka/1004680695/

all games in t62

 

http://www.noobmeter.com/recent/na/E63M6/1001897109/1001897109_00017844_20140608_223816/1001897109_00018737_20140801_205444

by far the most games in e50 or t62a

 

http://www.noobmeter.com/recent/na/Nas_/1000330864/1000330864_00018750_20140506_144057/1000330864_00020296_20140801_033227

by far the most games in t62 and e50

 

http://www.noobmeter.com/recent/na/nipp100/1000879423/1000879423_00029569_20140625_120801/1000879423_00030959_20140803_171542

most played tank e50

Actual tanks nipp is playing fyi:

1 E-50 MT DE 9 396 70.71% 2 T110E5 HT US 10 195 70.77% 3 M24 Chaffee LT US 5 106 54.72% 4 IS-6 HT SU 8 79 72.15%

 

http://www.noobmeter.com/recent/na/GotchMaster/1001376675/1001376675_00019399_20140505_034634/1001376675_00020987_20140803_144345

most played tank 140 and e50

 

Walk down the list and see for yourself.  4k wn8 is simply a product of tank selection.  Most of them are decent, but not top, players with crap win rates.  Most of them also know damn well that the reason they get 4k is out of whack expected values, yet they will sit here straight faced and tell you its skill because they don't want to admit they are padding.  Yet the facts remain, public record.  Don't take my word for it, look and see.

 

TL; DR - Play a T-62A or E-50, focus on dealing damage.  Winning is optional.  Congrats, you are now "skilled."

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http://www.noobmeter.com/recent/na/nipp100/1000879423/1000879423_00029569_20140625_120801/1000879423_00030959_20140803_171542

most played tank e50

Actual tanks nipp is playing fyi:

1 E-50 MT DE 9 396 70.71% 2 T110E5 HT US 10 195 70.77% 3 M24 Chaffee LT US 5 106 54.72% 4 IS-6 HT SU 8 79 72.15%

 

Yes, i was playing the E-50 a lot, since it is now the best tier9.. i was getting 5k+ WN8, stopped playing it and now im at 4,7-4,8k, i only play it ocasionaly now (as you can see in more recent stats)

 

I bought both the E5 and the Chaffee, the latter i bought just to pre-grind the new light line coming out on 9,3 patch, i surpsingly did very well on it (1435 dpg) but i already grinded the XP needed but i'll sill play it now and then till patch 9.3.   

 

ps; playing the chaffee solo reks your W/R, hory cow.

 

The E5 was an old dream, and it payed of. But im currently on a horrible streak on it, losing 24/7 doing 1k dpg.. so im taking a break from playing it.

 

And the IS6 to.. farm dat mad monys to buy things, ya know.

 

Anyway... the tanks i mentioned on my post above are the ones im playing and will play almost every day, not tanks that i played in the past 1,5 month like you mentioned.

I "padded" the T-62A before it was cool (such hipster), had 3,9k dpg before i took a break from the game in the beggining of the year, when i came back it was like i forgot how to T-62A and i play like shit on it since then, so i barely touch it anymore (140 also).

Yeah i padded the E-50, if i wanted i could keep doing that 24/7 and probably get 5k+ WN8 but im happy my wn8 as it is, and i feel like im doing very well on the tanks i play, so that is all that matter.

 

 

If it is that easy to farm 4k, then please do it.. i can easily maintain 4k+ without 62A/E50, like i was doing before i bought my E50 back.

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Yes, i was playing the E-50 a lot, since it is now the best tier9..

Stop getting defensive, no one cares if you play the e50.  He asked a question, and I answered it.  The key to getting 4k wn8 is to farm the t62a or e50.  Anything else is obfuscation.

 

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Stop getting defensive, no one cares if you play the e50.  He asked a question, and I answered it.  The key to getting 4k wn8 is to farm the t62a or e50.  Anything else is obfuscation.

 

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"Stop getting defensive" wut.. i mean, youre attacking me, its pretty obvious that im going to "defend" myself from your points that when answered back, you just love to ignore and not answer back.. You're trying to prove 4k wn8 is all about 62a and e50 play, im proving you its not.

I give you points, you ignore them and affirm the only way is what you saying, kk.

 

I could attack back, but on what.. your WN8 that you can even maintain? or the fact that the tanks i shamelessly stat paddded (as you said) have really good W/R (for a solo pubber that dont give a fuck about W/R) and you forget to mention that?

 

"no one cares if you play the e50"  neither do i, as i said above.

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It takes more then a E50 or T62 to break 4k WN...I guarantee Garbad couldn't hold 5k WN8 even if he gave up on winning and only went for WN in a T62..

 

He simply isn't consistent enough.

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Tank selection is just part of getting 4k wn8, but you can get 4k+ wn8 in any tank just by BEING consistent. Here is a shitty reroll that has tanks played on it throughout various tiers. This person is able to maintain 4k+ wn8 in almost 100 battles, without having to play OP IS-6, E-50, nor a T-62A.

 

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I personally, can get 4k+ wn8 without playing the E-50. I dislike the T-62a, I honestly think its alpha is to low to quickly change the course of the battle. I sold the 140 because in my opinion its garbage.

 

What I have been playing recently is the STB-1, which is one of the meds that have nearly the highest dmg required per game, and FV215B, a tank that is extremely underestimated. For the past 100 battles I have almost played at 5k wn8. 

 

My play style consists of ALWAYS doing something. I'm always in the front lines with every tank i play. I hate sitting still. I hate waiting for the enemy to do something. I prefer to yolo into the enemy when there's tons of arty. I always play to take down my toughest opponent on the enemy side to ensure my team's victory.

 

Pretty much it comes down to personal skill to get 4k+ wn8. Tank selection may help but you still have to be able to play well in those tanks. And Tier 10 is where the wn8 is to be farmed.

 

 

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What they say:

Consistency, skill, etc.

 

What they do:

Play the T-62A and focus on dealing damage, not winning.

 

There is a reason why a casual glance down the recent wn8 list shows t62a farmers.  There is a reason why nipp dropped from 5.5k to 3.5k once he stopped farming the e50 (did you suddenly get WAY less consistent and skilled, nipp?).  There is a reason why there are no players playing TDs who have 4k.  Its tank selection, nothing more.  But don't take my word for it, look for yourself.  Even those poasting otherwise can easily be seen to be hypocrites.

 

http://www.noobmeter.com/recent/na/Jojackington/1000155121/1000155121_00017549_20140502_233635/1000155121_00018652_20140803_161015

Jojack, wn8 shot up playing t10 meds, shot back down playing anything else

 

TL;DR - 4k wn8 = high dmg in a low expected value tank (E50/T62A).  Nothing more, nothing less.

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I find the m24 fine for win rate solo. But merely 1100 dpg is prob a result of scouting to win.

4k a product of tank selection mostly. Sample size assumptions wiki blah blah. It's not like anyone actually read the first 25 times.

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What they say:

Consistency, skill, etc.

 

What they do:

Play the T-62A and focus on dealing damage, not winning.

 

There is a reason why a casual glance down the recent wn8 list shows t62a farmers.  There is a reason why nipp dropped from 5.5k to 3.5k once he stopped farming the e50 (did you suddenly get WAY less consistent and skilled, nipp?).  There is a reason why there are no players playing TDs who have 4k.  Its tank selection, nothing more.  But don't take my word for it, look for yourself.  Even those poasting otherwise can easily be seen to be hypocrites.

 

http://www.noobmeter.com/recent/na/Jojackington/1000155121/1000155121_00017549_20140502_233635/1000155121_00018652_20140803_161015

Jojack, wn8 shot up playing t10 meds, shot back down playing anything else

 

TL;DR - 4k wn8 = high dmg in a low expected value tank (E50/T62A).  Nothing more, nothing less.

If it so easy do it yourself prove to everyone it is so damn easy.

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For the record, btw, I'm not saying jojack/nip/etc aren't good players -- at least unicum quality.  While I do consider their numbers inflated (seriously, do YOU think nipp is 50% more skilled than camador/sela/jackque/friction/etc?  Honestly?), its no different than tier 2 padding efficiency, TC padding win rates, hellcats padding wn7, and more.  No one cares, do as you like.  Besides, in a few weeks wn9 will come out and the padding meta shifts yet again.

 

But this thread wasn't about them.  It was about how to get 4k wn8 -- and the answer is clear.  Deal unicum level dpg in a e50/t62a.  Anything about consistency or skill is simply disingenuous, and you can easily see this by looking at the server data.

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The OP didn't specify a damn about a win rate requirement. No shit it's easier in a T-62A or E-50/M. Doesn't mean you can't do it with other tanks AND win at the same time. 

 

"70%+ solopubbing is impossible, just look at data" Yet it is because you've done challenges. There's proof right here that you don't need a server's worth of data to accept that 4k+ is entirely possible with other tanks. It's just that nobody's done it documented while winning 70%+ solo, and perhaps nobody wants to bother proving something that most of us know is true already. 

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The OP didn't specify a damn about a win rate requirement. No shit it's easier in a T-62A or E-50/M. Doesn't mean you can't do it with other tanks AND win at the same time. 

 

"70%+ solopubbing is impossible, just look at data" Yet it is because you've done challenges. There's proof right here that you don't need a server's worth of data to accept that 4k+ is entirely possible with other tanks. It's just that nobody's done it documented while winning 70%+ solo, and perhaps nobody wants to bother proving something that most of us know is true already. 

Show me a 4k recent player who doesn't play t10 mediums/e50.

 

Or just link me to canadianimpact's profile.  In which case, the answer to the OP is:  Be canadianimpact, because he is literally the only one.  That's about as useful as saying the only way to solo 70% is to be garbad.

 

Actually it looks like even he plays 140/Leo1/etc mostly:

http://www.noobmeter.com/recent/na/canadianimpact/1000932632/1000932632_00014583_20140718_072016/1000932632_00015025_20140803_185204

 

I am not sure there is anyone with 4k+ recent who isn't playing the T62A/E50/etc.  Its certainly not the norm.

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 In which case, the answer to the OP is:  Be canadianimpact, because he is literally the only one. 

 

Still proves you don't need 62A/E-50 all day. 

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Isn't this as simple as asking for directions? There are billions of ways to get from A to B but generally people want the shortest route there when asking for directions; not get all kinds of fancy detours or sightseeing routes........ergo: play e50 and/or t62a for shortest route to 4k wn8....

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Why do people even care? I know what my stats are, know that my recent WN8 is probably never going to hit 4K, and really don't care. I will gladly play the brick so Yato or someone can buzzsaw people down. The goal is to win the game, not get 6000 damage with 3000 from 300m+ and have only 3 shots taken at you. Until they can actually pick out recent tank per tank stats, there is no point in even looking at anything to this degree of detail.

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I find the m24 fine for win rate solo. But merely 1100 dpg is prob a result of scouting to win.

4k a product of tank selection mostly. Sample size assumptions wiki blah blah. It's not like anyone actually read the first 25 times.

 

Meh... i was at 65%~ W/R till i had an 10 games losing streak (yes, im stubborn and dont actually stop when i start losing like that..) so it dropped pretty hard.. i guess its just bad luck plus low number of games so theres too much randomness involved, cause believe me, there was NOTHING i could do in my defeats, my team just kept being steam rolled and there was nothing left i could do.
 
 

For the record, btw, I'm not saying jojack/nip/etc aren't good players -- at least unicum quality.  While I do consider their numbers inflated (seriously, do YOU think nipp is 50% more skilled than camador/sela/jackque/friction/etc?  Honestly?), its no different than tier 2 padding efficiency, TC padding win rates, hellcats padding wn7, and more.  No one cares, do as you like.  Besides, in a few weeks wn9 will come out and the padding meta shifts yet again.

 

But this thread wasn't about them.  It was about how to get 4k wn8 -- and the answer is clear.  Deal unicum level dpg in a e50/t62a.  Anything about consistency or skill is simply disingenuous, and you can easily see this by looking at the server data.

 

No im not 50% better than them, and no one thinks that.

Wn8 is not perfect, everyone knows that, its not because i have 4.7k recent that im that good... but still, its not only "62a,e50" padding like you say, you must be playing really well to achieve 4k+, like i said before, if it is that easy, why is your recent at 3k?

 

" its no different than tier 2 padding efficiency, TC padding win rates, hellcats padding wn7, and more.  No one cares, do as you like.  Besides, in a few weeks wn9 will come out and the padding meta shifts yet again."   

K, playin on high levels (4k+) on tier10's (mind you, no need for 62a/e50) is equal to being a stat padder, ok.

 

Yes, this thread wasnt about us, yet you made it be, so here we are.

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It annoys me that some people think WN8 is supposed to be a qualitative rating (ie. every skill or selection of tank is worth a set number of points and you just add them to get WN8) rather than a quantitative rating. Sure, T-62A and E50 play will increase WN8, but if a player can achieve 5000+ WN8 in one or two specific tanks, they can probably do 4k in most others (at least at high tiers).

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Funny how the shit post was deleted.. o7 Garbad :^)

Oh I deleted the entire thread, as it should be.  I answered the question correctly.  Everything after that is the result of a mod who wants to Deny Wn8 Deniers. 

 

 

but still, its not only "62a,e50" padding like you say

Oh?  Then link me to these nont62a 4kers.

 

Oh, right.

 

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