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Between the handling changes and the ammo capacity, the hype is back. 

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old stats vs. new

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T-34-3 is also getting type's turret and hull armor with HD model, and aimtime of 2.78s from 3.26s which is the same as type's present aimtime

gonna need to reinstall to try these out

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I doubt this will make type59 good. Maybe average. It's nice to be able to snap since now I can't even with a 5 skill crew + food but still you get low dpm, low pen, bad prem shell and meh final acc.

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WG stuffed tier 8 by basically creating a few separate balance points within it. There are the just plain shit 8s. Then there are the pref tier 8s. Then there are the normal tier 8 meds. Then there are the tier 8 heavies. Then there are the just plain broken heavy prems. Oh and some TDs and shit as well in there somewhere which are in their own separate meta.

Basically even a good tier 8 med is still not going to stand up in a meta that is essentially about how well you can fight upper tiers. Granted the 59 at least gets pref, but when when most of what you face will invalidate your armor and likely require you to use sprem to pen it isn't going to have much compared to the glory days. Ahh the glory days, when tier 8s actually saw 6s. Anyone still remember those?

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22 hours ago, Ezz said:

Ahh the glory days, when tier 8s actually saw 6s. Anyone still remember those?

I think that's an urban legend. I do have some hope that the new T-34-3 will be fun. At least it will look good in HD. 

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On 11/10/2017 at 0:11 PM, hazzgar said:

I doubt this will make type59 good. Maybe average. It's nice to be able to snap since now I can't even with a 5 skill crew + food but still you get low dpm, low pen, bad prem shell and meh final acc.

Get out of here with your scrub crew.

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5 hours ago, woe2you said:

 

Get out of here with your scrub crew.

 

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I'd rather put my penis in a toaster than play the games required to get so many skills on my type. It was a great tank some time ago. Then it was ok. Now I'd rather drive the fv4202 and I do. This is also the reason why my Lowe/VKB have a 5 skill crew, E100 has a 4 skill crew and Maus 3 skill.

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10 minutes ago, hazzgar said:

 

I'd rather put my penis in a toaster than play the games required to get so many skills on my type. It was a great tank some time ago. Then it was ok. Now I'd rather drive the fv4202 and I do. This is also the reason why my Lowe/VKB have a 5 skill crew, E100 has a 4 skill crew and Maus 3 skill.

Just shy of 6.5k games with that crew, split between the Type and the tech tree med line. Obviously that was mainly before Murazor fucked everything up.

I play a lot of FV now too. And the Lowe, but they only have 4 skills because they're my Pz7 crew.

 

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This probably qualifies as cheating because I got them with the Crommy B. 1.5k games to get them to this point.

 

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what equipment do you guys plan to run with these changes? vstab and rammer, but I'm not decided on optics vs. vents

vents seem to do little while optics give full +30m for 418m view range (no vision crewskills, no BIA)

food and optics seem like the best combo

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On my t34-3 running rammer, vents vert stab. Food always. Ive yet to find a game where i wish i had that 10% more view range. Maps arent as open anymore. Can be mitigated by crew skills anyways. Its pretty baller with BIA, Bond Vents, Rammer, food.

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25 minutes ago, CraBeatOff said:

The Hype59 is back boiz. Vstab, Rammer, Optics. It now has the gun handling of the T-55A or so

Note that it doesn't flash up as under-loaded, so you have to remember to tweak before the first game.

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I played some ten games today and mm was better than what I had come to expect from all the talk (I hadn't played since defender introduction and mm change). most of the time I just fired AP and avoided 1v1s with the biggest bricktanks. even t9 games had few enough t9s, so I won't complain.

the gun feels new, and not having to juggle 30 rounds between APCR and AP is a big pro. now you can hard-carry and make money with one ammo loadout.

those poor t6 tanks didn't stand a chance.:serb:also look at how small the reticle is on the move now. replay

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Yeah, the ammo count is wonderful, you can carry enough AP to make the monies in lower tier battles and still have enough APCR for tougher tanks. You still don't want to be snapping shots off (taking time to aim down will result in a lot more pens) but the time actually required to fully aim is a LOT less.

I haven't played pref 8s much since the MM change. I'm curious to see how it is these days. Yesterday I got a fair number of 5 Tier 9 games and this tank does struggle a bit in those. On the other hand, I did see a few tier 6s which you utterly thrash.

Overall the Type 59 is pretty pleasant to play!

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Can i drop food and run optics instead of vents or the buff wasn't big enough for that?

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55 minutes ago, hazzgar said:

Can i drop food and run optics instead of vents or the buff wasn't big enough for that?

It makes enough credits to afford the food! I run optics, rammer, and vstab with food. Great view range since the loader is the radioman (472). The ability to load tons of AP and actually pen them is great now. The credit multiplier makes food fairly easy to afford...

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I’m running Crab’s equipment but no food because I’m not a try hard. Even more so because this burns a lot even from frontal shots. So it certainly works but food will max out the comfort. 

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Anyone running Wet Ammo Rack? I demounted mine but got ammo racked from full health by T34 AP in the first game.

 

Perhaps it can sit in the garage and await further buffs...

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6 hours ago, ogremage said:

Anyone running Wet Ammo Rack? I demounted mine but got ammo racked from full health by T34 AP in the first game.

 

Perhaps it can sit in the garage and await further buffs...

You get ammoracked once in a million and you call it a shit tank? L2p son.

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I still stand by my opinion of... fuck rammer. Vents vstab optics (when using food) gets me better results.

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6 hours ago, ogremage said:

Anyone running Wet Ammo Rack? I demounted mine but got ammo racked from full health by T34 AP in the first game.

 

Perhaps it can sit in the garage and await further buffs...

Did you give him your right side?

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8 hours ago, woe2you said:

Did you give him your right side?

Yes.

8 hours ago, Stige said:

You get ammoracked once in a million and you call it a shit tank? L2p son.

I got ammoracked in like the only game I played this year in it.


And it's not the only reason why it's a shit tank, the mobility is also shit and the t8 smm is also shit.

l2p I have to do, of course, but that's a different story.

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@ogremage

It's not a shit tank though, even before the buffs, it somehow still won more games than any other pref mm tank, apart from IS-6 maybe.

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Had to deal with one of these in a recent game, dude was pulling off some very Murican-looking snapshots (into me, unfortunately).  Wish I had one.

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curious about the rammer as well. before the buffs you talked me into taking it off, should I put it back on?

also I agree: this is playable again

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