RichardNixon

WN9 candidate prototype

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13 minutes ago, Ezz said:

From recollection the prominence of hit rate and battle count were the hairiest of chin moles. But since then they've even managed MoE which ticks many a box in many a circle.

Yes PR version two is basically WNx with a battle count component. MoE is a little messy, but it's better in v2 than v1. MoE ironically suffer from the same problems that folks complain about with WN8 - that you're measured on your ability to distance yourself from the center of the unwashed masses, rather than just your ranking. And the EMA function, while a clever data storage solution, makes passing the mark thresholds a little random/luck dependant. Plus, at least on small pop. NA, the targets move a lot when say there is a rental, or all the WGLNA players are back to practicing.

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Soooo, any updates?

 

Honestly, just bring it out. If you keep delaying it more and more stuff is going to come out which will affect it. If this doesn't get implemented within the next month this honestly isn't going to get implemented, period.

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1 hour ago, GHOSTK1LL3R said:

Soooo, any updates?

 

Honestly, just bring it out. If you keep delaying it more and more stuff is going to come out which will affect it. If this doesn't get implemented within the next month this honestly isn't going to get implemented, period.

That's exactly how you motivate folks for a pain in the ass volunteer project, for minor at best improvements and a dozen implementation barriers!

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I guess that introduction of LT X will delay WN9 so no rush. 

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On 2/26/2017 at 4:08 AM, MacusFlash said:

I guess that introduction of LT X will delay WN9 so no rush. 

Would the shake up of the lights be a reason to look at the value of historical data?

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I know Richard Nixon did a comparison between wn9 and some of the other metrics a long time ago but since wn9

changed so much, especially at the end, does anyone even know how much efficacy wn9 holds over wn8/WGPR/TEFF?

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I believe the consensus is that overall account numbers are worthless.  They have been for awhile and keep getting worse.  For that if you want a number use WGPR.

 

Recents are the only thing meaningful if handled well, and the discussion was generally about using wn9 for recents only.

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if you use recent only my scrublord-stat smurf account will be useless :notlikethis:

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On 7/4/2015 at 5:50 PM, RichardNixon said:

Implementation

I threw together some terrible noob javascript for an experimental WoT stats site, which you can access here. Have a look through your per-tank results for anything weird:

http://jaj22.org.uk/wotstats.html

@RichardNixon,

Do you have to pay for hosting, and if yes, are you accepting donations for your site? I've found it insanely valuable.

Thanks!

 

 

 

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So, these recent API fuckups effectively killing off WN9 as well, since tanks have their individual scale?

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2 hours ago, TheMarine0341 said:

So, these recent API fuckups effectively killing off WN9 as well, since tanks have their individual scale?

What makes you say that?

Does the API provide fewer data elements now?

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1 hour ago, taugrim said:

What makes you say that?

Does the API provide fewer data elements now?

The light tank shuffle + other prems like the 40t changing tiers, but are being read in the API as being their original tier

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Is there a chance of a release?

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18 minutes ago, seriych said:

Is there a chance of a release?

No.

 

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I read a post on reddit about wn8 averaging across all the same type in a tier. Ie all tier 9 light tanks will have the 1 value. Is this true and can it be applied to WN9 instead?

I think the opportunity to pad is going to go through the roof.

I do get why they are doing it though, the changing values on tanks with all the tank reshuffling going on must be a lot of work for very little joy.

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4 hours ago, Acumen said:

I read a post on reddit about wn8 averaging across all the same type in a tier. Ie all tier 9 light tanks will have the 1 value. Is this true and can it be applied to WN9 instead?

I think the opportunity to pad is going to go through the roof.

I do get why they are doing it though, the changing values on tanks with all the tank reshuffling going on must be a lot of work for very little joy.

WN9 uses same values as WN8 so...

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5 hours ago, Acumen said:

can it be applied to WN9 instead?

WN9 had three main advanatages to WN8:

  • tank specific growth (so double the damage is not double the WN8 on all tanks because some tanks, like Tortoise, have it harder to get double the damage with the same skill)
  • different way of calculating LTs and arties
  • limiting the influence of single tanks on your overall

The first would go away with tier averages. The second is no longer needed. The third is was a big feature in the first iteration of WN9 but got watered down so heavily that it could as well be left out.

So, alas no, WN9 was not worth the hassle before and is even less worth it after the change to tier/type averages.

 

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So it's safe to say WN9 is dead and I should stop hoping?

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28 minutes ago, clownshoes2 said:

So it's safe to say WN9 is dead and I should stop hoping?

That which never lived cannot die. 

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1 minute ago, CraBeatOff said:

That which never lived cannot die. 

Very true.

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I am still trying to figure out if Richard Nixon was  Praetor. :)

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Trump news: Richard Nixon disappeared because WG hired him to make new PR rating. And new WG PR is in fact WN9. You heard it here first.

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WN9 has my old stats as a shitlord - although apparently I played pretty bad tanks.

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