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Tier X Light tanks

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Taken from:
https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2016/12/19/new-stats-of-tier-x-lights-partial/
Photos of the tank in the link

Apparently, the light tanks of most nations will be extended to Tier 10. French, German, RU and American tier VIII LTs get bumped up a tier. Chinese T8 stays the same. Partial stats below. Initial observation: Accuracy is pretty meh (perhaps indicative of changes in accuracy being tested behind the scenes) and ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? TIER X TANKS WITH 1400 HP LOLOLOL GOOD JOB WG

Stats:
 

WZ-132-1

Tier: LT-10
HP: 1400
Max speed: 64 / -23 km / h
Turret turning speed 40 °/s
Hull turning speed: 50 °/s
View range: 410 m

Alpha Damage: 390 / 390 / 480
Penetration: 246 / 280 / 53 mm
Reload time: 9 s
Accuracy at 100 m: 0,42
Aiming time: 2,0 s

AMX 13 105

Tier: LT-10
HP: 1400
Max speed: 68 / -25 km / h
Turret turning speed: 38 °/s
Hull turning speed: 40 °/s
View range: 420 m

Alpha Damage: 390 / 390 / 480
Penetration: 234 / 280 / 53 mm
Reload time: 40,0 s
Reload time between magazine rounds: 2,5 s
Rounds in magazine: 3
Accuracy at 100 m: 0,4

XM551 Sheridan


Tier: LT-10
HP: 1400
Max speed: 65 / -22 km / h
Turret turning speed: 40 °/s
Hull turning speed: 50 °/s
View range: 410 m

Alpha Damage: 910 / 700 / 910
Penetration: 76 / 152 / 85 mm
Reload time: 23 s
Accuracy at 100 m: 0,6
Aiming time: 3,6 s

T-100

Tier: LT-10
HP: 1500
Max speed: 72 / -25 km / h
Turret turning speed: 53 °/s
Hull turning speed: 56 °/s
View range: 420 m

Alpha Damage: 320 / 320 / 420
Penetration: 230 / 248 / 50 mm
Reload time: 7,65 s
Accuracy at 100 m: 0,44
Aiming time: 2,0 s

Rheinmetall Panzerwagen

Tier: LT-10
HP: 1600
Max speed: 72 / -25 km / h
Turret turning speed: 44 °/s
Hull turning speed: 54 °/s
View range: 440 m

Alpha Damage: 390 / 390 / 480
Penetration: 242 / 280 / 53 mm
Reload time: 9 s
Accuracy at 100 m: 0,36
Aiming time: 1,9 s

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Because tier 10 lights are effectively what tier 9 light with current system would be, 1400 - 1600 is actually logical evolution from 1100 - 1250 of tier 8 (soon to be tier 9) lights.

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FFS those accuracy numbers, holy RNG cancer batman.   Because obviously if I tell you a tank has great vision, no HP and no armor your response will be "it must only be able to fight at point blank range".  That 280 prem pen will be super useful also . . .

 

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23s reload on the Sheridan? Lol. Unless it's way more accurate than the t49 it will be horrible.

 

Also yeah that prem pen + that acc. They will change it but it is pretty borderline

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#MakeLightsGreatAgain

 

Accuracy is joke :D 

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5 minutes ago, hazzgar said:

23s reload on the Sheridan? Lol. Unless it's way more accurate than the t49 it will be horrible.

 

There is still chance it will have better bloom values than T49. If it has 0.20 or less turret traverse bloom then that + HP makes it already worthy upgrade lmao

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Just now, leggasiini said:

There is still chance it will have better bloom values than T49. If it has 0.20 or less turret traverse bloom then that + HP makes it already worthy upgrade lmao

If it is more nimble too. When a tank with 49 mobility and derpy gun will have to compete with RU meds it will be annihilated. Also even with good gun stats doing 200-400hp every 20s? T10 mm means more armored tonks. 

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Basically gimped tier 10 meds with more speed.

Hell, only the rheinmetall actually gets higher viewrange than all tier 10 meds, so what´s the point...

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These stats look a bit unfinished to me. That german tank looks way better than the other four. The 3-shot autoloader on the french light looks like a good balancing decision, but will be incredibly painful when you find 2 enemy arties.

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Keep on mind guys these are partial stats and most likely not finished. These actually reminds me hella lot about Sandbox lights. There is very good chance that they have hover levels of terrain resists and amazing bloom values. 

That Soviet thing IIRC has 100mm upper plate and almost 200mm of turret armor so that is something to consider aswell.

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Given how obsessive Wg has been with "improving the role of armor" nobody should expect these things to be accurate and have good premium pen at the same time. At least one of those would have to give

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" A/M: Nations with tier 10 lights will be: USSR, USA, Germany, France and China. We’re searching for candidates for the others. The current tier 8 lights will be moved to tier 9 except for China. This will happen during the first half of the next year. "

If the WZ-132 is going to remain as T8, and the T10 is the WZ-132-1, then what is the T9? WZ-132-0.5?

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I'm  not impressed.  Why do LT have less hp than +1 mediums when they can't trade as well?  I understand the less firepower,  sure,  but the X551 having the exact same firepower as the current T49? At least lets see a little aim time bump. Prelim is prelim though. 

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Sorta disappointed that wg didn't embrace the full stupidity of Chinese high tier meds and give the tier x light a 122mm gun

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410-420 base VR seems busted to me given that it retains its camouflage value while on the move.

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Lights are garbage, calling them the tier they really are means at least you're getting warmer, but they'll still be garbage. I would have kept their tiers the same and dropped some stats, if they bump them all up a tier they're still going to be "gold spam only" credit sink fail wagons. Hopefully they plan on increasing some stats, most notably hit points, but I still see fuck all point in playing a faster T20 with a stock gun.

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T-100 full stats (including soft stats)

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- DAT. BLOOM. VALUES.

- Trash shell velocity, as expected

- Has pretty nice UFP and turret but side is butter so dont expect it to be able to somehow sidescrape like T-54 LT

 

WZ-132-1

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- Turret actually has some armor lol

- Very nice DPM + good gun handling + light camo + some turret armor, this thing has potential IMO

 

AMX 13 105

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(armor is irrelevant beacuse its same as AMX 13 series)

- looks trash. 800 worse DPM and 3 instead of 5 shells in clip makes it completely irrelevant compared to Bat. Better gun handling and light camo is not enough to justify worth that big firepower loss IMO

The German and US scouts doesnt have full stats leaked yet (from Wot Express, russian source). 

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wish the 13-105 had 4 shells instead of 3, RIP running into more than 1 arty

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12 minutes ago, leggasiini said:

The German and US scouts doesnt have full stats leaked yet (from Wot Express, russian source). 

Rheinmetall:

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Sheridan:

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Dat spaced armor, atleast it wont get oneshotted by artillery as often

 

The softstats arent anything exceptional either so at the end they are just gimped mediums.

As for the turrets of the WZ and the  T-100, the only thing they will be able to hulldown against are tier 8s, the upper hull on the T-100 looks like it will be able to troll tier 10s though.

 

Also, something interesting to note, all tanks except for the T-100 and the AMX have the option to mount an optional/different gun so there is that atleast.

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Yeah, the only way these were redeemable would be if their handling was at least 62A levels, if not better. 

As is, they're a complete fucking joke. 

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Aww, for a moment i thought XM551 has 0.04 bloom value with derp, but i was dissapointed :brokenheart:

Looks like there is absolutely no reason to use derp over 105mm. What a shame.

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We all know that supertest stats make it to live, just like 242 pen 4 sec intra on Kranvagn...

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Just now, CandyVanMan said:

We all know that supertest stats make it to live, just like 242 pen 4 sec intra on Kranvagn...

Dont forget it had 40 sec clip reload, worse traverse speed than E100, even lower health than now, overmatchable side armor and turret armor was significantly weaker (in fact, only slightly stronger than EMIL I's turret). 

Lets also not forget that when Type 5 Heavy arrived first time on super test, it was already UP (it was effectively post 9.15 type 5 expect it had less HP, traverse speed and reverse speed...and you all know how well it performs these days), yet they heavily nerfed its gun and released it on that kind of state.

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Yeah, so chill with the doomsday prophecies for now.

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What they are maybe not mentioning is a global nerf to medium view range to suddenly make scouting in LTs a thing at tier X again.  

Of course, if your LT driver is a shitter and the other team has a pro-scout(TM) then you're gonna have a bad day dying blind in the dark.

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