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9.17.1 Patchnotes (Maus buff, "good" E5 nerf, Cent bros got love, Type 4 and 5 got buff?)

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https://ritastatusreport.live/2017/01/26/9-17-1-patchnotes-tank-changes/#more-29537

Centurion Mk. I
– Reload time for OQF 20-pdr Gun Type A Barrel for the second turret changed from 8 seconds up to 7.5 seconds. 
– The maximum forward speed is changed from 40 kph to 50 kph 

Centurion Mk. 7/1 
– Reload for 105 mm Royal Ordnance L7A1 reduced from 12 seconds. to 11.2 sec. 
– Maximum speed forward changed from 40 kph to 50 kph

FV4202 
– Maximum speed forward changed from 40 kph to 50 kph

Panther
– Reload time for 7,5 cm Kw.K. L/100 for the second turret changed from 4.4 seconds up to 4 seconds. 
– Recharge time gun 7,5 cm Kw.K. L / 100 in the first turret is changed from 4.6 to 4.2 seconds. 

Tiger I
– Penetration of Pzgr 40 projectile for 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 changed from 171 mm to 194 mm 
– Reinforced booking masks all the tools for the second tower of 
the Tiger (the P): 
– Reinforced gun mantlet for all the guns of both towers of 

Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger 
– Engine power changed from 140 hp up to 220 hp 

Grille 15 
– Reload time for 15 cm Pak L/63 changed from 16.5  to 18 sec. 
– Depression of 15 cm Pak L/63 changed from -8 degrees to -7 degrees 
– Maximum speed is changed back to 20 kph to 15 kph 
– Engine power for Maybach NL 234 was changed from 900 hp to 850 hp 

VK.36.01 H
– Penetration of projectile Pzgr 40 for 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 changed from 171 mm to 194 mm 

Jagdpanzer IV
– Penetration of Pzgr 40 projectile for 8.8 cm Pak L/56 was changed from 171 mm to 194 mm 

Jagdpanther 
– Penetration of Pzgr 40 projectile for 8,8 cm Pak L/56 changed from 171 mm to 194 mm in 

VK 30.02 D
– Traverse speed for second turret changed from 30°/sec to 45°/sec
– Traverse speed or first turret changed from 32°/sec to 45°/sec 
– Penetration of projectile Pzgr 40 for 8.8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 was changed from 171 mm to 194 mm 
– Maximum speed changed from 56 kph to 60 kph
– Engine power 507 MB changed from 720 hp up to 800 hp 

VK 30.01 P
– The spread of guns during hull traverse reduced from 0.28 to 0.25 
– The spread of guns hull traverse with first suspension is reduced from 0.28 to 0.25 
– The spread of guns hull traverse with second suspension is reduced from 0.25 to 0.22 
– Dispersion of 8.8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 during traverse of first turret reduced from 0.18 to 0.16 
– Dispersion of 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56   during traverse of second turret reduced from 0.16 to 0.15 
– Penetration of Pzgr 40 projectile for 8.8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 was changed from 171 mm to 194 mm 
– HP with first turret changed from 610 to 650 units. 
– HP with second turret changed from 710 to 750 units. 


Pz.Kpfw. III/IV
– Reload time for 7,5 cm Kw.K. 40 L/48 for the second turret changed from 4.3 seconds to 4 seconds 
– Reload time gun 7,5 cm Kw.K. 40 L/43 for the second turret changed from 4.3 seconds to 4 seconds 
– View range for first turret changed from 320 m to 340 m.. 
– View range for second turret changed from 320 m to 350 m.. 
– HP with first turret changed from 380 to 420 units 
– HP with second turret changed from 440 up to 480 units

Pz.Kpfw. V Berge-Panther Alpha and Pz.Kpfw. V Berge-Panther (China only) 
– The shells are replaced by shells from the 7,5 cm KwK 42 L / 70: 
– armor-piercing shells Pzgr 39 (110/110) is replaced by Pzgr 39 (150/135) 
– armor-piercing projectiles Pzgr 40 is replaced by Pzgr 40 (194/135) 
– high-explosive shells Sprgr 18 (38/175) replaced by Sprgr 8 (38/175) 
– The spread of guns changed from 0.39 m to 0.37 m 
– Dispersion after firing is reduced from 4 to 3.5 
– Aim time changed from 2.3 seconds. to 2 seconds 
– View range was changed from 350 m to 365 m.. 
– The speed of turret traverse changed from 30 °/sec to 44 °/sec

Nashorn 
– Penetration of Pzgr 40 projectile for 8.8 cm Pak L/56 was changed from 171mm to 194mm 

Maus 
– The spread of weapons during hull rotation reduced from 0.22 to 0.2 
– Accuracy changed from 0.38 m to 0.36 m 
– Dispersion during turret rotation reduced from 0.06 to 0.05 
– Reload changed from 14.9 seconds. 12 seconds 
– Aim time changed from 2.3 seconds. to 2.1 seconds 
– Front turret armor increased from 240 to 260 mm 
– Bottom hull side armor increased from 80 to 140 mm 
– Hull armor increased from 200 to 250 mm 

E 50 
– Dispersion of 8.8 cm Kw.K. L/100 for the second turret changed from 0.3 to 0.29 
– Dispersion of 8.8 cm Kw.K. L/100 in the second turret during travers reduced from 0.12 to 0.1 
– Dispersion of 8.8 cm Kw.K. L/100 in the first turret during traverse reduced from 0.12 to 0.1 
– Reload time gun 8.8 cm Kw.K. L/100 for the second turret changed from 6.6 seconds. to 5.5 seconds. 
– Reload time gun 8.8 cm Kw.K. 43 L/71 changed into the second turret from 7 seconds to 5.5 seconds 
– Reload time for 8,8 cm Kw.K. 43 L/71 in the first tower changed from 7.3 seconds. to 6.9 seconds 
– Aim time for 8.8 cm Kw.K. L /100 for the second turret changed from 2.9 seconds to 2 seconds 
– Aim time for 8.8 cm Kw.K. L/100 in the first tower is changed from 2.9 seconds to 2.2 seconds 
– Depression f all guns in both turrets changed from -5 degrees and -8 degrees 

E 75 
– The spread of weapons from the first suspension movement decreased from 0.24 to 0.22. 
– The spread of weapons during movement of the second suspension is reduced from 0.22 to 0.21. 
– The spread of weapons during rotation of the first suspension is reduced from 0.24 to 0.22. 
– The spread of weapons during rotation of the second suspension is reduced from 0.22 to 0.21 
– Dispersion of 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 for the second turret changed from 0.38 m to 0.37 m 
– Dispersion for 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 in the second turret during rotation was reduced from 0.18 to 0.11 
– Aim time 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 for the second turret changed from 2.9 seconds. to 2.4 sec 

E 100 
– Dispersion for 12.8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 was changed from 0.38 m to 0.36 m 
– Dispersion for 12.8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 during turret rotation is reduced from 0.1 to 0.07 
– Reload time gun 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 changed from 14.3 seconds. 13.3 seconds 
– Aim time guns 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 was changed from 2.9 seconds. to 2.3 seconds 
– Penetration of Pzgr 42 guns for 15 cm Kw.K. L / 38 changed from 235 mm to 246 mm 

Tiger P 
– Penetration of Pzgr 40 for 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L / 56 was changed from 171 mm to 194 mm 
– Reinforced gun mantlets of both towers

VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. B
– Spread during movement with first suspension reduced from 0.23 to 022. 
– Dispersion of 12.8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 for the second turret changed from 0.38 m to 0.37
– Dispersion of 12.8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 in the second turret during rotation changed from 0.16 to 0.13 
– Aim time for 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 for the second turret changed from 2.9 seconds. to 2.6 seconds. 
– Time gun aiming 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L / 55 for the second turret changed from 2.9 seconds. to 2.6 seconds 
– Lower plate armor reduced from 200 to 170 mm 
– Hull side armor increased from 100 to 120 mm 
– Removed vulnerable zones in the upper plate armor 

Panther II
– For the second turret added gun 8.8 cm Kw.K. L / 100 
VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A 
– Penetration of Pzgr 40 for 8.8 cm Kw.K. 36 L / 56 was changed from 171 mm to 194 mm 
– Angles of elevation and depression of guns changed both towers from -6 to -8. 
– Upper plate armor is changed from 120 to 150 mm 
– Lower plate armor changed from 120 to 100 mm 

Pz.Sfl. IVc 
– Penetration of Pzgr 40 for 8.8 cm Flak 37 L/56 was changed from 171 mm to 194 mm 

Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm
– Dispersion during movement reduced from 0.2 to 0.15. 
– Dispersion during hull rotation reduced from 0.2 to 0.15. 
– Dispersion changed from 0.35 to 0.32 
– Dispersion during turret rotation changed from 0.16 to 0.11. 
– Dispersion after firing changed from 4.0 to 2.0
– Reload changed from 4.6 seconds to 4.2 seconds 
– Added side skirts 5 mm

Panther/M10
– Dispersion during movement reduced from 0.19 to 0.15. 
– Dispersion during hull rotation reduced from 0.19 to 0.15. 
– Gun dispersion changed from 0.35 to 0.32 
– Dispersion after firing has been reduced from 4 to 2 
– Dispersion during turret rotation was reduced from 0.12 to 0.11 
– Reload changed from 4.5 seconds. up to 4 seconds 
– View range changed from 350 m to 365 m. 
– Maximum forward speed changed from 46 km / h to 55 km / h 
– Added sspaced armor on the front, sides and stern of the body, around the perimeter of the turret. The thickness of the screens is 5 mm

VK 30.01 D 
– Second suspension traverse changed from 38 to 40 
– Reload for 7.5 cm Kw.K. 42 L / 70 for the second turret changed from 4.4 seconds to 4.2 seconds 
– Traverse speed of first turret changed from 32 °/ sec to 35 ° / s 
– Trsverse speed of second turret changed from 32 ° / sec to 45 ° / s 
– Maximum speed forward changed from 56 km / h to 60 km / h

Indien-Panzer 
– Aim time for 9cm Kanone for the turret Indien-Panzer changed to 2.7 seconds. 2.5 seconds 
– Aim time for 8.8 cm Kw.K. 43 L / 71 for the turret Indien-Panzer changed to 2.9 seconds. to 2.7 seconds 
– Penetration of Pzgr 40 for 8.8 cm Kw.K. 36 L / 56 was changed from 171 mm to 194 mm 

Leopard Prototype A 
– Depression of all guns in both turrets changed -6 to -8 degrees

VK 72.01 (K) 
-Dispersion during movement reduced from 0.23 to 0.21. 
– Dispersion during hull rotation reduced from 0.23 to 0.21 
– Dispersion during turret rotation reduced from 0.16 to 0.1. 
– Reload changed from 22 seconds. to 20 sec. 
– Aiming gun time changed from 3.4 seconds to 2.9 seconds 
– Penetration of Pzgr 42 guns for 15 cm Kw.K. L / 38 changed from 235 mm to 246 mm 
– Ammunition capacity changed from 24 to 35 rounds 
– Maximum speed forward changed from 43 km / h to 33 km / h 


VK 30.02 (M) 
– The spread of guns 7,5 cm Kw.K. 42 L / 70 in the second turret during rotation is reduced from 0.2 to 0.12. 
– The spread of guns 7,5 cm Kw.K. 42 L / 70 in the second turret after firing reduced from 4.0 to 3.0 
– Spread gun 7,5 cm Kw.K. 40 L / 48 in the second turret after firing reduced from 4.0 to 3.0 
– Upper front platerl armor increased from 60 to 85 mm. 
– Lower plate armor reduced from 60 to 50 mm. 

Waffenträger auf Pz. IV
– Penetration of Pzgr 42 guns for 15 cm Pak L / 38 was changed from 235 mm to 246 mm 

T-34-85M 
– Shells replaced by shells from T-34-85 “Rudy”
– shell UBR-365K (160/126) replaced by UBR-365KBM (180/144). 
– Projectile UBR-365P (160/167) is replaced by UBR-365PBM (180/194). 
– Projectile UOF-365K (280/43) replaced by the UOF-365BM (300/44). 
– Review increased from 350 to 360 m. 
– Hull traverse speed is reduced from 0.24 to 0.22. 
– The spread of guns has been reduced from 0.42 to 0.37. 
– Aim time reduced from 2.5 to 2.2 

T28 
– rotation speed running T28VVSS T46 is changed from 18 to 20 
– Rotation speed running T28VVSS T56 is changed from 20 to 24 
– Maximum speed forward changed from 18 km / h to 22 km / h 
– Maximum speed moving back changed from 7 km / h to 10 km / h 

T95 
– rotation speed running T95HVSS changed from 16 to 20 
– rotation speed running T95HVSSM2 changed from 18 to 24 
– Maximum speed forward changed from 13 km / h to 20 km / h 
– Maximum reverse speed changed from 6 km / h to 10 km / h 

T28 Prototype 
– Maximum speed forward changed from 18 km / h to 28 km / h 
– Maximum reverse speed changed from 7 km / h to 10 km / h 

T110E5 
– Reduced armor for commander cupola 
– Armor at side of the roller is reduced from 254 to 76.2 mm. 

Heavy Tank No. VI
– Penetration Pzgr projectile. 40 guns 8,8 cm Kw.K.36 L/56 was changed from 171 mm to 194 mm 
– Reinforced Gun mantlet 

Type 5 Heavy 
– Added gun 15 cm / 45 41st Year Type 
– Reinforced turret and hull armor 

Type 4 Heavy 
– Added gun 15 cm/45 41st Year Type 
– Weight capacity for Type 4 Heavy Kai changed from 165,000 kg. up to 170,000 kg. 
– Reinforced hull armor

My question is... is the Maus worth the grind after this kind of a buff?

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51 minutes ago, hallo1994 said:

Panther II
– For the second turret added gun 8.8 cm Kw.K. L / 100 

Anyone know if they've added a new gun to research to a tank before? If so, did people who had the tank elited get the gun researched for free, or did they have to research the new gun to re-elite the tank?

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I've got about 50k to grind on the P II for the E 50. I'm curious how this new gun will change the tank. I'm hopeful. Might actually finish the grind. 

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" Leopard Prototype A 
– Depression of all guns in both turrets changed -6 to -8 degrees "

AWESOME - so when is 9.17.1 coming out?

:epicsaxguy:

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Anyone got armour model images of the new HD tanks?

 

Also So they have buffed both the 50-120 and PTA post me grinding them with shot gun depression, RIP...

 

"VK 30.02 (M) 
– The spread of guns 7,5 cm Kw.K. 42 L / 70 in the second turret during rotation is reduced from 0.2 to 0.12. 
– The spread of guns 7,5 cm Kw.K. 42 L / 70 in the second turret after firing reduced from 4.0 to 3.0 
– Spread gun 7,5 cm Kw.K. 40 L / 48 in the second turret after firing reduced from 4.0 to 3.0 
– Upper front platerl armor increased from 60 to 85 mm. 
– Lower plate armor reduced from 60 to 50 mm. 
 "

 

So the VK3002M has been buffed to full Panther "A" standard?

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FV4202 - Now it can be fast while being bad!

Grille 15 - Get rekt

All German mid-tier mediums - Still bad

Maus - Uhm....this thing might be pretty good

E-50 - Needs all the buffs it can get :serb:

E-75 - Camador buffed. Lots of additional comfort, should be nice to play.

4502B - Overall buff, although lower plate becomes pennable by tier 10 HEAT more often. Can angle a lot better with 120mm sides though. Gun handling buff is nice.

4502A - Upper plate buff is great, but lower plate nerf seems dumb (it's still very vulnerable to 175 pen guns from the front)

Panther/M10 - Monster buff, it's basically the tech tree Panther that doesn't see tier 9s and makes credits.

US TDs - Might actually be bearable now.

E5 Cupola - Solid change. Hopefully the final values on the cupola are such that you need 230-240+ to consistently pen it (can be penned by tier 10 guns with standard ammo, but a lot of tier 8s and 9s will still need gold).

Nip heavies - Just look more annoying.

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E50 BUFF :tanfiesta:

VK 7201 gun buff is wonderful. It feels like driving an IS-7 in terms of handling, hopefully now it will be tolerable to fight long range in. 

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The 30.01 D is interesting. It is not a bad tank now. But it doesn't get played much because it is slightly, yet obviously, worse than the Cromwell and T-34-85. I wonder if these buffs will be what 30.01 D needs to become a real option: a Cromwell-like tank that trades a just little speed for being better able to hit shots from long range. I'm in.

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So the IS-7 is getting powercreeped even more.Nice meme WG.

Seriously why are they still not looking at the IS-7,particularly it's gun handling.It literally has worse dispersion values and worse aimtime than the WZ-111-1-4,which is a tier lower and has nearly the same reload,with the same alpha damage and better pen on its prem rounds.

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Type 4/5 derp gun:

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Its so  t h i c c :kreygasm:

Stats:

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Holy fucking shit the derp is going to be pretty damn monstrous and there will be literally 0 reason to use 14cm anymore if you cant afford to shoot gold (assuming that the higher damage HE is gold, we still dont know for 100% sure), liked you derps or not.

Since it has same reload as E100 with 15cm, it can drop its reload down to just below 16 seconds. Thats only 2,5 seconds worse than O-Ho derp. However, on non-HE pens Type 5 will be doing ~400 with regular HE and ~600 with gold HE. So compared to 14cm, it trades 2,5 sec reload and some accuracy for no need for penetrating, module damage and those HE pens for 1400 damage...which is like fucking Deathstar with lowrolls.

Type 5 will also get exact same armor buffs as those stats leaked 4 months ago. I watched the video, and it was shown that it will get +10 more to front, +20 to turret front, +20 to sides and cheeks will become as thick as buffed front armor. 

So basically it has now gun that can do easily 600 damage every 16 seconds with no need to pen, can be semi-deathstar when it pens and has -10 depression, 2,9k HP and lot better armor than now on same package. Type 5 literally will go from zero to hero, it will be fucking scary tank to face now. Its terrible for game and i still would have preferred major buffs to 14cm...but whatever :serb: 

Good thing that consumamble sale is coming...time to waste millions into onigiris :doge:

 

 

 

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They should have taken off the prem HE shells, changed them to high-splash HE, and buffed the RoF a bit in return. 1400 is a bit too much imho, Type 5 definitely needs it to remain competitive but I do not want to fight something capable of splashing my (insert t10 here) for 600 every fifteen seconds.

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4 minutes ago, KittenFixE50ValuesBabyRage said:

HE shells are the worst fucking mechanic in this game. "oh here don't bother aiming let RNG decide fucking everything". 

It's rather "I can't pen your 200mm armor but I'll kill half of your crew with splash because fuck you".

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RIP 4502B. While has a really strong lfp, it's now it's a slower, more awkward E75. At least they buffed the side armor but still.... (tanks.gg isn't showing these changes, can anyone comment how losing 30mm of lfp armor will affect the 4502B? It's over 300mm effective on flat ground right now, ballpark guess as to what it will be after this patch?)

Also, the Maus looks stupidly good right now. Tougher in every respect compared to the E100. 250mm hull armor is ridiculous, and a tougher turret is also extremely welcome.

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With all these armor buffs, I wonder if they will actually go through with the dispersion nerf.........

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12 minutes ago, Shifty_101st said:

With all these armor buffs, I wonder if they will actually go through with the dispersion nerf.........

I'd imagine they won't. Just imagine the shitstorm that would brew as well as the severe drop in playerbase as a result of a more RNG-based game.
 

I'm still waiting for the devs to realize that a dispersion nerf on OTM shots and map changes would help more than their poor attempts at game balance.

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Yeah, these buffs wont work w/ the sandbox changes at all, unless they really want to get us to spend $ on premium rounds to coincide with a rumored SH change (cannot give details, but look this coming week)

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2 hours ago, dualmaster333 said:

4502A - Upper plate buff is great, but lower plate nerf seems dumb (it's still very vulnerable to 175 pen guns from the front)

I don't see anything about the 4502A.

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