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Elimination: Tier 8 Premiums - Patriot's Providence (COMPLETE)

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Type 59 - 23  
WZ-111 - 17 
112 - 20
T-34-3 - 17
59-Patton - 14 
AMX CDC - 11 
FCM 50 t - 22 
M4A1 Rev. - 22
AMX M4 49 - 20
leKpz M41 90mm -  21
Skorpion - 21
Panther 88 - 20
Lowe - 24 +1 = 25 - Seriously, this went from being a total fucking meme tank that I bought because I had too much tournament gold to possibly the best tier 8 heavy in the game.  Armor is now reliable and predictable, gun handles decently and has plenty of both AP and APCR penetration to remain relevant in all battles.  Most importantly, lets you curb-stomp all the tryhard shitters who run IS-3/T-54 LTW comps in tier 8 strongholds, WHILE you make more credits than they do.
Kanonenjagdpanzer - 5
Pz. 58 Mutz - 20
Jagdtiger 8.8cm - 2
STA-2 - 22  
FV4202 (P) - 14
T26E4 - 18
T34 - 20
M46 KR - 21
T26E5 (Patriot) - 21
T-54 Mod. 1 - 17
IS-6 - 21 - 3 = 18 - Powercrept into oblivion.  Especially with the addition of the newer regular MM tier 8 premium heavies (that this now has to fight all the fucking time) and the buff to the Lowe, this thing went from being a mostly sad sack of shit to a completely sad sack of shit.  Armor only works against tanks that can easily run away from you or just press 2-2, and the gun also only works against tanks that can easily run away from you or just press 2-2.  Preferential MM only takes you so far, and when that "so far" is into a blind alley against an E75 and a VK.B, there's only going to be one outcome.  If you absolutely must have a shitty tier 8 pref MM heavy tank, either of the Chinese options are better.  Bonus idiot points since two IS-6s can stand in front of each other and fire AP at each other's "weak points" all day and still basically not do shit to each other.  Fuck this stupid tank all the way to Moscow.
KV-5 - 20
T-44-100 - 21 

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Type 59 - 23  
WZ-111 - 17 
112 - 20
T-34-3 - 17 +1 = 18  Honestly this is what a tier 8 prem should be, Good speed, good alpha, pref, good armour for a med. Its basically a t54 without HEAT and better Alpha, and alpha on the t54 is what makes it shit.
59-Patton - 14 
AMX CDC - 11 
FCM 50 t - 22 
M4A1 Rev. - 22
AMX M4 49 - 20
leKpz M41 90mm -  21
Skorpion - 21
Panther 88 - 20
Lowe - 25 
Kanonenjagdpanzer - 5
Pz. 58 Mutz - 20
Jagdtiger 8.8cm - 2-3= -1  pros: It prints credits and its easy to play, Cons: everything else
STA-2 - 22  
FV4202 (P) - 14
T26E4 - 18
T34 - 20
M46 KR - 21
T26E5 (Patriot) - 21
T-54 Mod. 1 - 17
IS-6 - 18 
KV-5 - 20
T-44-100 - 21 

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Type 59 - 23  
WZ-111 - 17 
112 - 20
T-34-3 18  
59-Patton - 14 
AMX CDC - 11 
FCM 50 t - 22 
M4A1 Rev. - 22
AMX M4 49 - 20
leKpz M41 90mm -  21
Skorpion - 21
Panther 88 - 20-3=17 - its a panther 2. Panther 2's aren't very good.
Lowe - 25 
Kanonenjagdpanzer - 5
Pz. 58 Mutz - 20
STA-2 - 22  
FV4202 (P) - 14
T26E4 - 18+1- 19 armour that gives it 4k hp frontally effectively on a tier 8 with gun depression and American god APCR Hnggg. A little slow to move and kill and bad side armour so you just have point front towards enemy and compensate by cunting the entire flank (if there's no meanie tier 9 TDs or ISU's).
T34 - 20
M46 KR - 21
T26E5 (Patriot) - 21
T-54 Mod. 1 - 17
IS-6 - 18 
KV-5 - 20
T-44-100 - 21

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Im actually really questioning the fact that the Jag88 was eliminated BEFORE tanks like the 59 patton or Kanonpanzer...

 

Wtf

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type 59 - 23  
WZ-111 - 17 
112 - 20
T-34-3 - 18  
59-Patton - 14 
AMX CDC - 11 -3 
FCM 50 t - 22 
M4A1 Rev. - 22
AMX M4 49 - 20
leKpz M41 90mm -  21
Skorpion - 21
Panther 88 - 20
Lowe - 25 
Kanonenjagdpanzer - 5
Pz. 58 Mutz - 20
Jagdtiger 8.8cm - -3=-4 I don't have it,but lets cut bait and shorten the list
STA-2 - 22  
FV4202 (P) - 14
T26E4 - 18
T34 - 20
M46 KR - 21
T26E5 (Patriot) - 21 + 1 = 22 
T-54 Mod. 1 - 17
IS-6 - 18 
KV-5 - 20
T-44-100 - 21 

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26 minutes ago, Archaic_One said:

type 59 - 23  
WZ-111 - 17 
112 - 20
T-34-3 - 18  
59-Patton - 14 
AMX CDC - 11 -3 
FCM 50 t - 22 
M4A1 Rev. - 22
AMX M4 49 - 20
leKpz M41 90mm -  21
Skorpion - 21
Panther 88 - 20
Lowe - 25 
Kanonenjagdpanzer - 5
Pz. 58 Mutz - 20
Jagdtiger 8.8cm - -3=-4 I don't have it,but lets cut bait and shorten the list
STA-2 - 22  
FV4202 (P) - 14
T26E4 - 18
T34 - 20
M46 KR - 21
T26E5 (Patriot) - 21 + 1 = 22 
T-54 Mod. 1 - 17
IS-6 - 18 
KV-5 - 20
T-44-100 - 21 

JT 88 is already killed m8

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also how the fucking hell JT went down before kannonfodderpanzer that got voted as 2nd worst tank in the entire game in the worst tank elimination :look:

atleast jt88 is not tier 7 TD plastered with scout mm (and thus pretends to be tier 8 ) and doesnt meet tier 10s, god damn it...

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Type 59 - 23  
WZ-111 - 17 
112 - 20
T-34-3 18  
59-Patton - 14 
AMX CDC - 11 
FCM 50 t - 22 + 1 = 23; mobile enough, decent gun and....pref matchmaking
M4A1 Rev. - 22
AMX M4 49 - 20
leKpz M41 90mm -  21
Skorpion - 21
Panther 88 - 17
Lowe - 25 
Kanonenjagdpanzer - 5
Pz. 58 Mutz - 20
STA-2 - 22  
FV4202 (P) - 14
T26E4 - 19
T34 - 20
M46 KR - 21
T26E5 (Patriot) - 21
T-54 Mod. 1 - 17 - 3 = 14; really only bounces low tier trash, slow and requires too many gold rounds against higher tiers
IS-6 - 18 
KV-5 - 20
T-44-100 - 21

Type is 23??  Seriously.....no

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I believe Archaic still has his downvote since the JT88 was already eliminated before he posted.

type 59 - 23  
WZ-111 - 17 
112 - 20
T-34-3 - 18  
59-Patton - 14 
AMX CDC - 11
FCM 50 t - 23
M4A1 Rev. - 22
AMX M4 49 - 20
leKpz M41 90mm -  21
Skorpion - 21
Panther 88 - 20
Lowe - 25 + 1 = 26 There are very few non-pref MM tier 8 premiums I would want to own for pub matches, given how much tier 8s get shit on on NA. But the Lowe... Good god. I used to make fun of one of my friends for loving his Lowe. Now he is the one laughing at me. It has a very effective armor layout, incredible hull down potential, a gun whose apcr makes it competitive against almost anything it faces, and apparently it moves decently now. If they implement the gold trade in, my KV-5 might disappear to fund one of these. Seriously, I would suck a dick for a Lowe.
Kanonenjagdpanzer - 5-3 = 2 I cannot fathom why anyone would buy this shitbox. This is certainly the worst tank on this list.
Pz. 58 Mutz - 20
STA-2 - 22  
FV4202 (P) - 14
T26E4 - 18
T34 - 20
M46 KR - 21
T26E5 (Patriot) - 22 
T-54 Mod. 1 - 4
IS-6 - 18 
KV-5 - 20
T-44-100 - 21 

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2 hours ago, Assassin7 said:

Im actually really questioning the fact that the Jag88 was eliminated BEFORE tanks like the 59 patton or Kanonpanzer...

 

Wtf

The first several eliminations are in not too much of a particular order. Plus people typically vote off tanks they have played previously first, and the jgtig was bought frequently due to its reputation for credit farmer. (and tbh I didn't hate the 59-patton, post buff it was actually ok)

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type 59 - 23  
WZ-111 - 17 
112 - 20
T-34-3 - 18  
59-Patton - 14 
AMX CDC - 11
FCM 50 t - 23
M4A1 Rev. - 22
AMX M4 49 - 20
leKpz M41 90mm -  21
Skorpion - 21
Panther 88 - 20
Lowe - 26 + 1 = 27; I should have voted Löwe the first time, but I forgot about Löwe. My only gripe with the Löwe was the speed, and then they went and buffed the speed, its armor and its gun dep. So reliable. Lazers never die.
Kanonenjagdpanzer - 2 - 3 = -1; It looks awful in this meta.
Pz. 58 Mutz - 20
STA-2 - 22  
FV4202 (P) - 14
T26E4 - 18
T34 - 20
M46 KR - 21
T26E5 (Patriot) - 22 
T-54 Mod. 1 - 4
IS-6 - 18 
KV-5 - 20
T-44-100 - 21 

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type 59 - 23+1=24 a non-gimmicky all-round premium medium with pref mm? yes pls. having this tank has made immediately regret any new t8 premium tank purchase ever (even KR), because the type is the only one I need.
WZ-111 - 17 
112 - 20
T-34-3 - 18  
59-Patton - 14 
AMX CDC - 11-3=8 it's very fast, so it gets to the dumpster quickly. being scared of literally every tank you face is boring. and then there's arty.
FCM 50 t - 23
M4A1 Rev. - 22
AMX M4 49 - 20
leKpz M41 90mm -  21
Skorpion - 21
Panther 88 - 20
Lowe - 27
Pz. 58 Mutz - 20
STA-2 - 22  
FV4202 (P) - 14
T26E4 - 18
T34 - 20
M46 KR - 21
T26E5 (Patriot) - 22 
T-54 Mod. 1 - 4
IS-6 - 18 
KV-5 - 20
T-44-100 - 21

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Type 59 - 24
WZ-111 - 17 
112 - 20
T-34-3 - 18  
59-Patton - 14 
AMX CDC - 8 - 3 = 5. I dont have it but i have played it when it was rentalled on EU 1.5 years ago and jesus i hated it. No armor + huge + ebola gun handling + low alpha + ammoracks everywhere is possibly most disgusting combo possible and any kind of mobility or DPM cant save that :eww: 
FCM 50 t - 23
M4A1 Rev. - 22
AMX M4 49 - 20
leKpz M41 90mm -  21
Skorpion - 21
Panther 88 - 20
Lowe - 27 + 1 = 28. Went from zero to hero in one god damn patch. It has exactly two cons, and that is raw DPM (which is partially compensated by very reliable, constinent gun and as almost every HT in the tier with good DPM has major drawback on some of the gun stat) and weak as fuck lower plate. Good, really workable armor + -10 depression + insane view range + reliable, accurate highpen gun is really rare combination. Arguably one of the best if not THE best at raw credit making, too
Pz. 58 Mutz - 20
STA-2 - 22  
FV4202 (P) - 14
T26E4 - 18
T34 - 20
M46 KR - 21
T26E5 (Patriot) - 22 
T-54 Mod. 1 - 4
IS-6 - 18 
KV-5 - 20
T-44-100 - 21

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Type 59 - 24
WZ-111 - 17 
112 - 20
T-34-3 - 18  
59-Patton - 14 
AMX CDC - 5-3 = 2 Suffers badly against noobs who fire HE as HE always does damage - and it does a LOT against a CDC. 40mm of armour get's overmatched by IS gun and is a HUGE target
FCM 50 t - 23
M4A1 Rev. - 22
AMX M4 49 - 20
leKpz M41 90mm -  21
Skorpion - 21
Panther 88 - 20
Lowe - 28
Pz. 58 Mutz - 20
STA-2 - 22 +1 = 23 A great jack of all trades tank, not great alpha but it feels more mobile with better gun handling than it's STA-1 cousin.  
FV4202 (P) - 14
T26E4 - 18
T34 - 20
M46 KR - 21
T26E5 (Patriot) - 22 
T-54 Mod. 1 - 4
IS-6 - 18 
KV-5 - 20
T-44-100 - 21

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Type 59 - 24
WZ-111 - 17 
112 - 20
T-34-3 - 18  
59-Patton - 14 
AMX CDC - 2
FCM 50 t - 23
M4A1 Rev. - 22
AMX M4 49 - 20
leKpz M41 90mm -  21
Skorpion - 21
Panther 88 - 20
Lowe - 28
Pz. 58 Mutz - 20
STA-2 - 23 
FV4202 (P) - 14
T26E4 - 18
T34 - 20
M46 KR - 21

T26E5 (Patriot) - 22 +1 = 23 = total powercreep in tier 8 (and it gets to be toptier surprisingly often) playable in higher tiers as a perfect second-line support vehicle. The turret is very good and with the combination of the dpm and mobility you can easily maintain the 2k-ish dmg which gets you ~65-80k credits (100-145k with boost) per battle. It is also very good for padding wn8.
T-54 Mod. 1 - 4
IS-6 - 18 - 3 = 15 - Became totally excrescential over the past two years. Held on a bit when got the HD model but with the meta changing towards the heavy tank preferential gameplay you can wipe your ass with the 217 apcr even if you load full clip of it. If the 252U really will come, I will buy it even if they nerf it before shop and thats it. Every tank shits on the is6 sadly...
KV-5 - 20
T-44-100 - 21

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4 hours ago, Assassin7 said:

Im actually really questioning the fact that the Jag88 was eliminated BEFORE tanks like the 59 patton or Kanonpanzer...

 

Wtf

It's big, it's slow, it only has 1300 HP, it's easy to pen, and is the prime arty target. Think about it.

An emil1 can clip it out with some high rolls, an UDES shreds it, a Skorpion G shreds, an AMX M4 49 smashes it, a T26E5 is practically invulnerable to it, a Löwe eats it for breakfast, lunch, and dinner and still has room for thirds, a 59 patton can at least move around with good gun depression and pen, and a kanonen is at least harder to spot and can flex.

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Type 59 - 24
WZ-111 - 17 +1= 18:  heavium that has enough of everything to brutalise almost every single med it sees, while still retaining the armour and HEAT that is good enough to let it fight on par with proper heavies.
112 - 20
T-34-3 - 18  
59-Patton - 14 

AMX CDC - 2-3 = eliminated: trashy gun handling that makes it a terrible damage farmer, no armour and hyuuuuge profile that prevents it from being a real med, and general lack of agility. Without a doubt, this is cancer to play.
FCM 50 t - 23
M4A1 Rev. - 22
AMX M4 49 - 20
leKpz M41 90mm -  21
Skorpion - 21
Panther 88 - 20
Lowe - 28
Pz. 58 Mutz - 20
STA-2 - 23 
FV4202 (P) - 14
T26E4 - 18

T34 - 20
M46 KR - 21

T26E5 (Patriot) - 23 
T-54 Mod. 1 - 4
IS-6 -  15 
KV-5 - 20
T-44-100 - 21

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Type 59 - 24
WZ-111 - 18
112 - 20
T-34-3 - 18  
59-Patton - 14

FCM 50 t - 23
M4A1 Rev. - 22
AMX M4 49 - 20
leKpz M41 90mm -  21

Skorpion - (21+1) = 22:    Zero Pressure Credit farm, even I suck so hard
Panther 88 - 20
Lowe - 28
Pz. 58 Mutz - 20
STA-2 - 23 
FV4202 (P) - 14
T26E4 - 18

T34 - 20
M46 KR - 21

T26E5 (Patriot) - 23 

T-54 Mod. 1 - (4-3)= 1:     Lose too much agility for trollish gun and insufficient armour
IS-6 -  15 
KV-5 - 20
T-44-100 - 21

Looking at the list I started to realise I have paid too much :doge:

I enjoy the Skorpion even more than the 46KR, shoot and scoot that's how shit I am

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If the Löwe wins we need an emote for it

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Mod 1 should have 11 points now. 

List should look like this now:

Type 59 - 24
WZ-111 - 18
112 - 20
T-34-3 - 18  
59-Patton - 14

FCM 50 t - 23
M4A1 Rev. - 22
AMX M4 49 - 20
leKpz M41 90mm -  21

Skorpion - 22
Panther 88 - 20
Lowe - 28
Pz. 58 Mutz - 20
STA-2 - 23 
FV4202 (P) - 14
T26E4 - 18

T34 - 20
M46 KR - 21

T26E5 (Patriot) - 23 

T-54 Mod. 11
IS-6 -  15 
KV-5 - 20
T-44-100 - 21

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Type 59 - 24
WZ-111 - 18
112 - 20
T-34-3 - 18  
59-Patton - 14

FCM 50 t - 23+1=24 Despite being statistically powercrept by many mediums like STA-2 or M46KR and sometimes downright trollish gun this tank still doesn't see tier10, and that is probably more important than having a bit better stats. Its plan B skillround is also very good unlike many other pref8s (250mm HEAT/217pen APCR lel wat da fuq you actually paid for these?) 
M4A1 Rev. - 22
AMX M4 49 - 20
leKpz M41 90mm -  21

Skorpion - 22
Panther 88 - 20
Lowe - 28
Pz. 58 Mutz - 20
STA-2 - 23 
FV4202 (P) - 14
T26E4 - 18

T34 - 20-3= 17 When the Lowe ascended to valhalla this tank is burning in eternal powercreep hell, it's now more sluggish and has a shit gun, shit viewrange and shit hull armor. Its biggest strength is about to be taken away too- Obj. 252U with its 440 alpha lel. nice balance 
M46 KR - 21
T26E5 (Patriot) - 23 

T-54 Mod. 11
IS-6 -  15 
KV-5 - 20
T-44-100 - 21

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What is this?!

Pref MM JT88 voted first out? Then CDC?

But FV4202 still at 14 points?? How on earth is it better than either of those tanks?? Please educate me.

I think this list is failing already.

All the minuses CDC has except vulnerabilty to HE does also the FV4202 have. But CDC has 1200 hp and 57 top speed and more DPM and better alpha and ammo cost is one third of FV4202. If you hate CDC so much, I am willing to trade my FV4202 for your CDC this instant. Where do I sign?

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Type 59 - 24
WZ-111 - 18
112 - 21 (+1, godtier buff made it by far the best T8 prem MM tank in the game, I'm pretty certain it's the absolute best tank for winning right now in its current state)
T-34-3 - 18  
59-Patton - 11 (-3, this has got to be the worst tank I've ever gotten gifted to 3mark. 2K DPG is literally good on this thing while it's trash for everything else on this list)

FCM 50 t - 24
M4A1 Rev. - 22
AMX M4 49 (Liberte)  - 20
leKpz M41 90mm -  21

Skorpion G - 22
Panther 88 - 20
Lowe - 28
Pz. 58 Mutz - 20
STA-2 - 23 
FV4202 (P) - 14
T26E4 - 18

T34 - 17
M46 KR - 21
T26E5 (Patriot) - 23 

T-54 Mod. 11
IS-6 -  15 
KV-5 - 20
T-44-100 - 21

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Type 59 - 24
WZ-111 - 18
112 - 21 
T-34-3 - 18  
59-Patton - 11 

FCM 50 t - 24
M4A1 Rev. - 22
AMX M4 49 (Liberte)  - 20
leKpz M41 90mm -  21

Skorpion G - 22
Panther 88 - 20
Lowe - 28 +1= 29 (buffs return fascist box tanks to glory)
Pz. 58 Mutz - 20
STA-2 - 23 

FV4202 (P) - 14 -3= 11 (just a worse centurion I and the centurion I is already bad)
T26E4 - 18
T34 - 17
M46 KR - 21
T26E5 (Patriot) - 23 

T-54 Mod. 11
IS-6 -  15 
KV-5 - 20
T-44-100 - 21

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Type 59 - 24-3=21 (181 pen is meh, but since it have the perf MM I'm fine with that. However, the gun stats on the type-59 is SO BAD. This is literally the only thing that ruined this tank. )
WZ-111 - 18
112 - 21 
T-34-3 - 18  
59-Patton - 11 

FCM 50 t - 24
M4A1 Rev. - 22+1=23 (impressive gun depression, acceptable gun handling and lovely 390 alpha)
AMX M4 49 (Liberte)  - 20
leKpz M41 90mm -  21

Skorpion G - 22
Panther 88 - 20
Lowe -29
Pz. 58 Mutz - 20
STA-2 - 23

FV4202 (P) - 11
T26E4 - 18
T34 - 17
M46 KR - 21
T26E5 (Patriot) - 23 

T-54 Mod. 11
IS-6 -  15 
KV-5 - 20
T-44-100 - 21

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1 hour ago, TohtoriP said:

What is this?!

Pref MM JT88 voted first out? Then CDC?

But FV4202 still at 14 points?? How on earth is it better than either of those tanks?? Please educate me.

I think this list is failing already.

All the minuses CDC has except vulnerabilty to HE does also the FV4202 have. But CDC has 1200 hp and 57 top speed and more DPM and better alpha and ammo cost is one third of FV4202. If you hate CDC so much, I am willing to trade my FV4202 for your CDC this instant. Where do I sign?

CDC also has one of the worst terrain resist values in the game making most of that HP worthless. I've never played the 4202, but I'm reasonably confident that the gun handling on it is nowhere near as bad as the CDC. It's just a fast tank with depression, but overall it's still pretty bad.

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