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15 hours ago, Expendable_Lad said:

At least you didnt throw money at the Prinz Eu-CreamInMyPantsWhenISeeThisOnTheEnemyTeam-gen

Thankfully I unlocked the Hipper a good while before the Eugen came out. I remember reading reviews and then staring at the Atago and Kutusov and thinking "really WG?"

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32 minutes ago, Pocktio said:

Thankfully I unlocked the Hipper a good while before the Eugen came out. I remember reading reviews and then staring at the Atago and Kutusov and thinking "really WG?"

Well, those three came out at a time, when WG tried to give every premium ship a specialty. Atago was made a demigod and Kutusov became god, so Eugen had to one-up them as well and it became the only thing we worship more than god, nowadays. A money-bonus.

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I'm pretty sure German speciality was meant to be AP, but then the Royal Navy came out with AP, smoke and heal; thoroughly stealing their ... already shitty limelight because they got crappy AP and nothing else.

I digress, ranting about German cruisers is not the point of this thread. I shall cease and desist.

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I played one game with rudder shift, didn't do much more damage because I was focusing DDs, but it was noticeably helpful in dodging shells.

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4 hours ago, Pocktio said:

I'm pretty sure German speciality was meant to be AP, but then the Royal Navy came out with AP, smoke and heal; thoroughly stealing their ... already shitty limelight because they got crappy AP and nothing else.

I digress, ranting about German cruisers is not the point of this thread. I shall cease and desist.

Feel free to rant about the hipster. It's shit and knows it is.

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8 minutes ago, OnboardG1 said:

Feel free to rant about the hipster. It's shit and knows it is.

The ship itself handles pretty well and is relatively tanky as far as cruisers go. The damage output is garbage though. I was 1 v 1 against a Hipster in my Roon a few days ago and there just wasn't anything he could do to counter me. I just walked all over him. I could tell he was trying his best but every time he switched to AP I angled and his HE damage I easily healed through.

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1 hour ago, Rodrigopine said:

The ship itself handles pretty well and is relatively tanky as far as cruisers go. The damage output is garbage though. I was 1 v 1 against a Hipster in my Roon a few days ago and there just wasn't anything he could do to counter me. I just walked all over him. I could tell he was trying his best but every time he switched to AP I angled and his HE damage I easily healed through.

 

I did the same thing to an Atago with the Roon. Switched to AP and killed him in to Broadsides. (5 cits) There is a huge jump in power on the German T9-T10 CA's vs all the T8's. They can shred the Kudizov as well because of their 20 km range.

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Thanks Onboard, after a couple games with the rudder shift instead of concealment, I'm finding the NO to be much more enjoyable. I hadn't realized it, but I had been toying with it on Atago, and kept it there too. 

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7 hours ago, SoliDeoGloria said:

Thanks Onboard, after a couple games with the rudder shift instead of concealment, I'm finding the NO to be much more enjoyable. I hadn't realized it, but I had been toying with it on Atago, and kept it there too. 

I actually meant the rudder shift in slot five, but if the full maneuver setup is working for you hooray.

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As for the Mogami, I play her a lot like an Atlanta because the shell arcs with the 6" guns are actually pretty good for lobbing over islands. With CE I can usually get into good locations undetected. The torps are a great deterrent in case any BBs try to yolo you. Even with the slow turret traverse you can annihilate unwary DDs or CAs in a couple of salvos. The ship itself is pretty squishy so avoiding damage or detection is essential. The only other big negative to the ship is that it doesn't bring any utility to your team. Much like the Atago it is a selfish ship.

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Yeah, I got the same feeling, the Atago is a lone wolf, not a pack hunter.  It seems to do best lurking at the edges of the action near it's detection range, getting opportunity fire and picking off low health ships trying to sneak away.  If you catch a BB making a power move at the front, you can lay out all your torps at the edge of detection and then start fires with the hope of getting good flooding damage if the torps hit.

It's a close second to the Kutuzov as my favorite tier 8 ship.  To think, if I hadn't gotten the Kutuzov in the Santa box splurge I probably never would have bought it.

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This thread is the only thing keeping me from blowing money on the Prinz Eugen right now.  I'd bite even if it was OK for variety....but.......

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Mogami moves up in my estimation after this patch. Can't stealth fire but chucks out sick damage. Better in division and solo, still not great in competitive.

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I'll probably switch to the 152's just to get thru to the Ibuki and beyond, not a priority with the stealth fire nerf which made the Zao so wicked good.

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4 hours ago, Vitellius9 said:

This thread is the only thing keeping me from blowing money on the Prinz Eugen right now.  I'd bite even if it was OK for variety....but.......

It's beyond shit

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2 hours ago, xWulffx said:

I'll probably switch to the 152's just to get thru to the Ibuki and beyond, not a priority with the stealth fire nerf which made the Zao so wicked good.

Just remember that the Ibuki is possibly the most boring ship in the game. 

You may want to save some free XP for it.

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26 minutes ago, publord said:

Just remember that the Ibuki is possibly the most boring ship in the game. 

You may want to save some free XP for it.

Yeah between that and the Zao basically being emasculated, I'm in no rush as I have the Des Moines and the Hindenburg .... I'll probably focus more on the up-tiering the Russian CA line.

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Zao isn't emasculated. Stealth fire was just one aspect of a ship that is still very strong without it.

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8 hours ago, OnboardG1 said:

Mogami moves up in my estimation after this patch. Can't stealth fire but chucks out sick damage. Better in division and solo, still not great in competitive.

How would you rate the 155 Mogami w/o IFHE?

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1 hour ago, Birkovic said:

How would you rate the 155 Mogami w/o IFHE?

It was always a good damage dealer without IFHE (not played that since the patch) but the damage output only becomes really monstrous with IFHE. I've not played it since the turret buff but that would alleviate some of the issues I had with being unable to keep my guns on target.

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13 hours ago, Vitellius9 said:

This thread is the only thing keeping me from blowing money on the Prinz Eugen right now.  I'd bite even if it was OK for variety....but.......

It's easily one of, if not the sexiest ship in the game though, I mean, look at her...

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Plus it is the only german capital ship that survived the war and it even managed to survive two hits from atomic bombs, suffering superficial damage to a mast-top and in the end, only sinking because the fucking americans wouldn't take proper care of this beauty and parts of it are still above surface even nowadays. A true german, that stubbornly refuses to go down, even ~80 years after it was born.

You totally want one now and you are totally going to buy one now and I will get my 5% salesman-bonus

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10 hours ago, OnboardG1 said:

It was always a good damage dealer without IFHE (not played that since the patch) but the damage output only becomes really monstrous with IFHE. I've not played it since the turret buff but that would alleviate some of the issues I had with being unable to keep my guns on target.

So to sum up: Non-IFHE would still make for an OK grind, or even a nice grind?

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1 hour ago, Birkovic said:

So to sum up: Non-IFHE would still make for an OK grind, or even a nice grind?

Not sure, maybe. It wasn't a great grind with stealth fire. Without SF and without IFHE it might be a bit rough.

 

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The amount of fires you can set, should be more than enough to compensate for non-penetrations. That was always the selling-point of the 155mm Mogami to begin with and armor was not tougher back in the day, when nobody had access to IFHE.

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