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Fed up of this shitty Acer Nitro laptop I've been using, I don't know what's wrong with it but I get 40 fps max with constant large dips in WoT even on minimum settings and stuttering audio, sure it's 1080 but a 960M can't be that shit right?  So I'm going to build a PC again, however there's a big constraint on size, I only have  120cmx50cm L:W space to put both PC, monitor and keyboard+mouse in so everything must be small.

I'm in the UK and have a budget of £1000, I already have a spare 22inch 1080p IPS monitor and a logitech mmo mouse so that's sorted but I need everything else, I've also not built a PC or kept up on things since like 2011/12 so looking to see if Wotlabs can help me with this one.

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960M with that?

try a windows reinstall, might be clogged with bloatware or shit slowing it down. either that or thermal issues.

 

as for build, quick idea thing, I wouldn't immediately recommend this (it can and should be optimised) but you could be looking at something like this: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bwQvhq

I wouldn't really consider overclocking much in small form factor cases, as thats what you'd be looking at. not enough cooling IMO. but at your budget you could afford around in that sort of region of hardware is what I'd guess. 

 

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Well I got no clue how to optimise that but I think I'll dump the 1TB HDD from it and just add more SSD later.

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Motherboard/RAM/case mainly. 

I just picked "this is good enough to work" in that mockup, without actually looking in to the parts I was picking. Case and mobo especially I would do some more research on what you can fit and what features you want. 

You can probably find as good but cheaper parts, or better for the same price, tbh, if you did a bit more looking. 

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12 hours ago, Assassin7 said:

960M with that?

try a windows reinstall, might be clogged with bloatware or shit slowing it down. either that or thermal issues.

 

as for build, quick idea thing, I wouldn't immediately recommend this (it can and should be optimised) but you could be looking at something like this: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bwQvhq

I wouldn't really consider overclocking much in small form factor cases, as thats what you'd be looking at. not enough cooling IMO. but at your budget you could afford around in that sort of region of hardware is what I'd guess. 

 

I don't think there's any reason not to get the 6600k over the 7600. I just picked a random mobo with good ratings although I'm sure a Z170 would be better.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FqfZvV

In case the Z170 is necessary:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6HM79W

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17 hours ago, Fulcrous said:

I don't think there's any reason not to get the 6600k over the 7600. I just picked a random mobo with good ratings although I'm sure a Z170 would be better.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FqfZvV

In case the Z170 is necessary:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6HM79W

"K" CPU (overclocking) without "Z" motherboard usually doesn't make sense.

 

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Went 5 pounds over budget, but incl.:

- 500 GB Samsung SSD

- RX480 8GB Red Devil - currently the best ~250€ GPU

- 16GB of RAM (no need to worry about later upgrades and compatibility issues)

- good Z270 µATX board + "K" CPU which is overclockable (should reach between 4.8 - 5.1 GHz)

- check case dimensions/design, that 's a personal thing

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/F0lterknecht/saved/fwBWZL

 

 

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13 hours ago, Folterknecht said:

"K" CPU (overclocking) without "Z" motherboard usually doesn't make sense.

 

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Went 5 pounds over budget, but incl.:

- 500 GB Samsung SSD

- RX480 8GB Red Devil - currently the best ~250€ GPU

- 16GB of RAM (no need to worry about later upgrades and compatibility issues)

- good Z270 µATX board + "K" CPU which is overclockable (should reach between 4.8 - 5.1 GHz)

- check case dimensions/design, that 's a personal thing

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/F0lterknecht/saved/fwBWZL

 

 

It's a bit over but it seems like this setup is really good, I'll look into cases I can fit and then probably go with this tyvm.

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7 hours ago, RGM79GM said:

It's a bit over but it seems like this setup is really good, I'll look into cases I can fit and then probably go with this tyvm.

before you pull the trigger, check back with us

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Oh well I got screwed dog needed a trip to vets after being very naughty so I'm forced to cut back my budget by about £200 and I tested out the spare monitor but it appears to be not quite working, I think it was damaged in storage thus I have to add in a monitor to the build. I looked up how 4 vs 8 GB memory performs for the RX480 and it seems to be only a small loss in recent games due to lower mem speed of 7gbps vs 8gbps, OCing might help that a bit.

So here's what I'm probably going to have to go with https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/wMznKZ

I'll probably replace the motherboard and cpu with a Z270 and i5 K in July.

Good enough to run high settings in WoT and maybe medium in the latest Mirror's Edge and Tomb Raider on that monitor? If so I'll go ahead and order the whole lot first Monday in April.

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17 hours ago, RGM79GM said:

Oh well I got screwed dog needed a trip to vets after being very naughty so I'm forced to cut back my budget by about £200 and I tested out the spare monitor but it appears to be not quite working, I think it was damaged in storage thus I have to add in a monitor to the build. I looked up how 4 vs 8 GB memory performs for the RX480 and it seems to be only a small loss in recent games due to lower mem speed of 7gbps vs 8gbps, OCing might help that a bit.

So here's what I'm probably going to have to go with https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/wMznKZ

I'll probably replace the motherboard and cpu with a Z270 and i5 K in July.

Good enough to run high settings in WoT and maybe medium in the latest Mirror's Edge and Tomb Raider on that monitor? If so I'll go ahead and order the whole lot first Monday in April.

 

fixed that for you

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/F0lterknecht/saved/r8wFTW

 

That Pentium is as good as a i3 for the typical home user (2c/4T) and the new favorite amoung budget builders who know what they are doing. Therefore resale will be easy with a minimal loss for you when you switch to Z270 and i5K. i3s are obsolete atm and with Ryzen 3 rumored for 150$ ... . Also don't forget to buy an other 8GB stick when you make the switch.

Also allows for a 8GB graphic card, which won't be memory bottlenecked down the line.

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3 hours ago, Folterknecht said:

 

fixed that for you

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/F0lterknecht/saved/r8wFTW

 

That Pentium is as good as a i3 for the typical home user (2c/4T) and the new favorite amoung budget builders who know what they are doing. Therefore resale will be easy with a minimal loss for you when you switch to Z270 and i5K. i3s are obsolete atm and with Ryzen 3 rumored for 150$ ... . Also don't forget to buy an other 8GB stick when you make the switch.

Also allows for a 8GB graphic card, which won't be memory bottlenecked down the line.

 

Ahh thanks for the help, curious though could the RX480 become obsolete before 8GB is really necessary or is that moment coming very soon you think?

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5 minutes ago, RGM79GM said:

 

Ahh thanks for the help, curious though could the RX480 become obsolete before 8GB is really necessary or is that moment coming very soon you think?

read that carefully (german -> engl. works well with google translate)

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerbase.de%2F2016-09%2Fgrafikkarten-speicher-vram-test%2F&edit-text=

 

When that will apply to most games? I don't know, but AAA games and console ports are really starting to eat VRAM at high and highest settings at 1080p. And the other thing will be the resale value - in 2 years "no one" will buy a card with 4GB when 8GB will be available for cheap.

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