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23 hours ago, nemlengyel said:

so judging by the posts, it's reasonable in randoms? gud gun + frontal invincibility to patriot is tempting

pretty much, 288 pen means you won't need premium and u can snipe with .29 accuracy and 8 km/h siege gives you better speed then the udes

 

its a pretty solid crew trainer that has siege mode without the grind if you haven't went down the Swedish line like myself

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The STRV-S1: A Quick Survival Guide

 

Hello everyone! The latest line of tanks introduced into the game were the new Swedish Tank Destroyers and a line of Medium and Heavy tanks. The heavy tanks are a beast unto themselves, featuring amazing turrets with lackluster guns. The Tank Destroyers introduced a new mechanic call “siege mode” which allows the tier 8, 9 and 10 tanks to do some pretty cool thing with its gun handling. And the Tank Destroyers also feature some impressive guns at tier 8 through 10 with some of the highest base penetration to their standard ammunition in the game for their tier. With the latest patch, WarGaming introduced a premium tank destroyer which acts as a ‘hybrid’ of sorts, combining the tier 8 and 9 tank destroyers into a tank known as the STRV-S1 (or, S1). So, what do you need to know?

 

How do I play the STRV-S1?

 

Unlike the tier 8 Udes 03, the S1 has 30mm of armor instead of 20mm. This is a MASSIVE difference! This means that tanks with a gun caliber of 90mm or less need to aim at your weak spots, instead of just aiming at the tank. Further, instead of moving at 5kph while in siege mode as the Udes 03 can, you move at 8kph, which again is a massive difference and adds some flexibility. And, you also gain an ever so slight advantage to your damage per minute.

 

However, this comes at a cost. You lose 20 kph off your top speed when comparing to the Udes while moving forward, and 5 kph when comparing to moving backwards. You also lose the ability to elevate your gun in a manner that lets you shoot over terrain easily. Acceleration can be a bit harder to come by, so you’ll need to move earlier than you might have considered in the Udes.

 

The S1 is a pure sniper, but can be more useful in close engagements than the Udes when top tier. The gun’s penetration means very little premium rounds need to be loaded, usually only to help deal with a MAUS or Type 5 Heavy. If you’ve been training your tank in camouflage then you can often fire safely in the open to about 375 meters against everyone but tanks with maximum view range skills IF your crew is trained to 100% camouflage for all crew members.

 

You thrive in open maps, and do not suffer on those maps even up against tanks two tiers your better as your gun has great penetration and accuracy values. You will suffer somewhat in city engagements, or many of the newer maps which feature only three real fighting paths, as flanking in the top tier Swedish Tank Destroyers are very awkward since it’s hard to fire your gun outside of siege mode. You will also suffer if you’re an impatient player, as this features of the tank are exceptionally punishing if you rush to do anything other than get into your optimal position.

 

Setting up Your S1

 

Equipment: Medium Tank Gun Rammer, Binoculars, Camouflage Net. You could also consider running ventilation over a camouflage net, but this will decrease your “safe” firing zone to about 400 meters.
Consumables: Small Medical Pack, Small Repairs Pack, Automatic Extinguisher (Auto Ext). This tank will catch fire to frontal hits. As the Auto Ext decreases your chance of fire by 10%, this is obvious to use. If you wish to “try hard” and run the premium consumable “food,” I would drop the medical pack.

 

Will It be used in Competitive Play?

 

I doubt this tank will have great utility apart from training your crew in public battles or random stronghold skirmishes where it can be strong due to random map rotations. However, when the coming map is known the Udes 03 features better mobility and the DPM difference really isn’t noticeable. The German premium tank Destroyer, the Skorpion, features a gun which has better alpha damage, the ability to overmatch many tanks with weak armor, a full turret, and comparable mobility. This tank, the S1, is not a strong contender for Clan Wars-like environments.

 

Yay, or Nay?


So, should you get it? I would, but only if you’ve already unlocked and elited the Udes 03 and enjoy playing it. It can be an excellent credit maker, and with only 3 crew members your crew will train very quickly.

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On 3/25/2017 at 7:35 PM, nemlengyel said:

so judging by the posts, it's reasonable in randoms? gud gun + frontal invincibility to patriot is tempting

Personally I couldn't recommend it, if you want a premium TD get a Skorpion G, way more versatile and hits much harder. 

Though I feel this tank will get a buff at some point, but at the moment it's already a turretless TD which is a pain, but then pays even more for that with siege mode.  

I also kind of feel with the overmatch changes getting cancelled these Swedish TDs will get something in the future. 

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55 minutes ago, tajj7 said:

Personally I couldn't recommend it, if you want a premium TD get a Skorpion G, way more versatile and hits much harder. 

Though I feel this tank will get a buff at some point, but at the moment it's already a turretless TD which is a pain, but then pays even more for that with siege mode.  

I also kind of feel with the overmatch changes getting cancelled these Swedish TDs will get something in the future. 

Id like to see the Udes get 34mm frontal armor (safe vs 100mm guns), the 103-0 get 41mm armor (safe vs 122mm), and the 103-B get 51mm (safe vs 152mm). 

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20 minutes ago, TheMarine0341 said:

Id like to see the Udes get 34mm frontal armor (safe vs 100mm guns), the 103-0 get 41mm armor (safe vs 122mm), and the 103-B get 51mm (safe vs 152mm). 

WG balacing dept should hire you :doge: 

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10 hours ago, TheMarine0341 said:

Unlike the tier 8 Udes 03, the S1 has 30mm of armor instead of 20mm. This is a MASSIVE difference! This means that tanks with a gun caliber of 90mm or less need to aim at your weak spots, instead of just aiming at the tank.

Playing almost exclusively the Pilot, Persh and Patriot these days, I can feel the pain. 

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