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Supertest: VK 168.02 (P) T8 Premium(?) Mäuschen

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https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2017/05/17/supertest-vk-168-02-p-initial-stats/

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Today, this new tier VIII premium heavy started being tested.  There are 2 different vehicles, with different guns:

With 15 cmgun – this version will have high DMG and less mobility.
With a 12.8 cm gun – more mobile with better aiming

Initial stats for the 12.8 cm gun variant:

Tier: HT-8
HP: 1700
Max speed: 20 / -15 km / h
Turret turning speed: 20 °/s
Hull turning speed: 18 °/s
View range: 400 m

Hull armor: 140 / 150 / 140 mm
Turret armor : 230 / 160 / 140 mm

Alpha Damage: 490 / 490 / 630
Penetration: 208 / 250 / 65 mm
Reload time: 17.8 s
Accuracy at 100 m: 0,42
Aiming time: 2,5 s

Initial stats for the 15 cm gun variant:

Tier: HT-8
HP: 1700
Max speed: 20 / -15 km / h
Turret turning speed: 15 °/s
Hull turning speed: 13 °/s
View range: 400 m

Hull armor: 140 / 150 / 140 mm
Turret armor : 230 / 160 / 140 mm

Alpha Damage: 750 / 750 / 950
Penetration: 202 / 250 / 85 mm
Reload time: 24 s
Accuracy at 100 m: 0,44
Aiming time: 3,2 s

 

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Well I guess they had to try powercreeping the defender 

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Wow, another Maus clone. Thank you WG for diversifying our tank pool with more fucking clones.

That aside, I think they should go with the 12.8cm one and nerf alpha. Didn't they reduce the VK 100's alpha because it was too strong for a tier 8 heavy? Tier-breaking firepower and armor is never a good combo

Then again, they did release that Defender sooo

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Sooooooooo remember the Mäuschen back in 9.9 test server? Remember?

Welllll that 15cm variant is basically that, but tier lower as T8 premium. L M A O

It seems so fucking broken (read: broken, not necessarily OP). I mean, 750 alpha on T8 superheavy? And ISU, that is poorly armored, sluggish, casemate TD that has only exactly only good thing about it and that is its gun. And this thing has same alpha as it. Like what the actual fuck, sure the pen is low but if you spam gold this thing will rape absolutely everything, mmmmmmmm 2 shotting Defenders))))). 

Also lets not forget the thing is basically closest thing so far that is premium with 15cm derp gun :doge:. I mean, even when bottom tier this thing can be potent because it has higher pen + damage than O-Ho derp aswell as better accuracy and bullshit 400 view range, though the RoF is significantly, signfiicantly lower than O-Ho's.

I almost say i would want it but i already have Löwe and at this rate they will seriously fuck this game into the level its kill.

 

5 minutes ago, ZXrage said:

Didn't they reduce the VK 100's alpha because it was too strong for a tier 8 heavy? Tier-breaking firepower and armor is never a good combo

They did buff armor to compensate, tho, so if anything the tank was overall buffed compared to the 490 alpha variant

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3 minutes ago, leggasiini said:

bullshit 400 view range

Damn, I didn't even notice that. RIP another advantage of the T32/Lowe. All the T32 has going for now is turret armor. Good think I 3-marked it already

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This tank is going to be ridiculously 1 dimensional. It has nothing to leverage outside of the armor and alpha. It's literally the epitome of it. Highest alpha on a tier 8 heavy, naturally thicc armor because Maus prototype. It's going to be a even more polarized Defender, with even more armor and alpha, which are 2 things that don't scale well with tier.

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Hmm I think as KV5 got power creeped a loooooong time ago he accepted his fate :superserb:

€. well this Serb Emoticons seem to get bigger every time. 

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Soft stats:

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0.26 / 0.26 / 0.13 bloom which is pretty garbage.

Basically its pseudo-derp gun.

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10 minutes ago, hall0 said:

Hmm I think as KV5 got power creeped a loooooong time ago he accepted his fate

Wonder if WG would buff it someday.

6 minutes ago, leggasiini said:

Basically its pseudo-derp gun.

That's how WG wants to balance retarded armor and alpha. Look at Defender.

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hmm, the 128mm gun still has 490 dmg, which was deemed to much for the Vk-100, and the 150mm is just retarded :P

I guess its more a model testing tank, as an actual balanc testing tank

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Power/weight of 4.64, the mobility is literally that of a Maus with a broken engine :serb:

So basically the tank will be both frustrating to play as and against, gj WG, though atleast in its current state the tank isn´t as brokenly overpowered as the defender.

Also:

 

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Maybe the radioman has to get out and pull this thing when it tries to get up that 10° incline:serb:

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The bicycle is actually the engine. 

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Warthunder did it first! 

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On riturdstatusreport it was mentioned that devs will choose either of them, depending on which one seems better...

We can all guess how well it goes...

If you want introduce more super-heavies atleast be bit more creative and introduce French super-heavies :(

At least they wouldnt have retardproof armor...though that would end up very well also in bad way.

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1 hour ago, MacusFlash said:

What does KV-5 say?

 

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:no:

 

WG should give KV-5 the 152 derp from KV-2 and buff RoF as needed. 

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18 minutes ago, Nekommando said:

WG should give KV-5 the 152 derp from KV-2 and buff RoF as needed. 

They already did that, it is called "O-HO".

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36 minutes ago, Nekommando said:

WG should give KV-5 the 152 derp from KV-2 and buff RoF as needed. 

There are already too many derps in WoT.

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welp Rest in Peace any sense of balance tier 8 ever had 

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58 minutes ago, saru_richard said:

welp Rest in Peace any sense of balance tier 8 ever had 

this would be a very belated obituary anyway

id like to see this thing spammed in stronks like the O-I was at tier 6, except this thing isn't blind and prints creds

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29 minutes ago, lavawing said:

this would be a very belated obituary anyway

id like to see this thing spammed in stronks like the O-I was at tier 6, except this thing isn't blind and prints creds

Expect O-I definitely isnt blind with its best in-class/tier viewrange. 370 is almost as dumb on tier 6 as 400 is on tier 8, its more than some T6 LTs lmao

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Since WG is making these tanks up as they go, could the devs please make it look like something other than art deco version of a fascist box tank.  I do like the bicycle. 

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Good thing it gets shit pen that will not go trough an angled Defender! GJ wg you are learning how to balance this game. 

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1 hour ago, nabucodonsor said:

Good thing it gets shit pen that will not go trough an angled Defender! GJ wg you are learning how to balance this game. 

thats what the Skorp G is for

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I don't wanna be rude, but if the tank comes live with fucking 750 alpha and that armor on tier 8, the whole balance department (if there even is any) can die of cancer. The game is slowly turning into a joke and strongholds on tier 8 will be even more cancerous (like its not already bad enough with defenders and vk Ps for credits) .

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