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First Look at New Soviet Tier 10's (2019 release)

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source: https://thedailybounce.net/2018/04/13/world-of-tanks-new-soviet-tier-x-tanks-revelaed/

K91 – Tier X Soviet Medium

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Tier: MT-10, USSR, standard
HP: 1800
Engine power: 500 hp
Mass: 45 t
Maximum load: 50 t
Power-to-weight: 11,11 hp / t
Max speed / Min speed: 55 / -20 km / h
Hull turning speed: 50 °/s
Turret turning speed: 46,9 °/s
Terrain resistance values: 0,863 / 0,959 / 1,918
View range: 410 m
Radio range: 730 m

Hull armor: 140 / 60 / 45 mm
Turret armor: 220 / 140 / 60 mm

Gun: 100 mm D-46T

Alpha Damage: 320 / 320 / 420
Penetration: 276 / 330 / 50 mm
Rate of fire: 8,147 rounds/minute
Damage per minute: 2 607,1
Reload time: 7,364 s
Accuracy at 100 m: 0,316
Aiming time: 1,82 s
Depression/Elevation: -5 / +20

K-91 will be a fast vehicle with great targeting parameters with its 1.9 seconds aiming time. The gun accuracy and shell velocity (1,700m/sec) will allow this vehicle to snipe from long distances and with its 276mm of penetration on APRC shells, will make this vehicle extremely effective. But not everything will be good in this tank, with its weak armour, limited gun depression (-5 deg) and limited turret traverse, will make this vehicle peculiar and hard to play.

You can almost guess how the vehicle will play, it will excel as an ambusher, providing fire support from a distance and anyone who tries to brawl with him, it will have a hard time. With 410 meters spotting range and decent camouflage values (slightly worse than Obj430U), will enable this vehicle to spot enemies first. Its mobility is on pair with other Soviet medium tanks, but players will have to try to maximize cover as much as possible, as it will be hard to survive with its weak armour when under enemy fire.

The tank can be also be used at mid-range combat, but only the most skilled players will be able to take full advantage of this game style, with its limited 180º firing arc, mobility and good gun stabilization will surely make these moments an epic showcase of skill.

personally im interested in this one, from the description above it seems it will play more like the tier 8, Object416 than the tier 9, Object 430 ver 2. 

weak armor with fantastic penetration and crazy good velocity (1,700m/sec holy fuck) , Slightly above avg View range and good camo.

Object 277 – Tier X Soviet Heavy

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Tier: HT-10, USSR, standard
HP: 2200
Max. speed forwards/backwards: 55 / -15 km/h
Hull traverse speed: 32 °/s
Turret traverse speed: 26 °/s
View range: 400 m

Hull armor: 140 / 112 / 50
Turret armor: 290 / 224 / 80

Damage: 490 / 490 / 640
Penetration: 265 / 350 / 65
Reload time: 11.5 s
Accuracy: 0.35
Aim time: 2.5 s

Object 277 is a heavy assault tank that combines mobility with protection. As a true successor to the T-10, Object 277 builds on its strong sides, having better aiming time, damage per minute and armour penetration values. With more hitpoints and a higher alpha damage, the is truly an improved version of the T-10. The vehicle armour isn’t the strongest among Soviet heavy tanks, but its strong enough to deal with almost any enemy tank. Its hull armour will be 140mm thick, which will increase due to the 60-70º slipe on the glacis plate, 138-170mm at 45-55º at the lower front plate, 112mm at its sides and 50 mm on the rear. But what it excels is its turret with an impressive 290 / 224 / 80 mm of armour.

Just like the T-10, Object 277 will play as a heavy/medium hybrid,  well suited for countering the enemy at the frontline while tanking key positions. Due to its agility, the tank will enable players to play both aggressively, switch flanks and even change approach and switch a defensive play. Object 277 will keep its progenitor’s performance-impairing weaknesses too: mediocre gun depression with -5.5º, making it very difficult for productive terrain-based play.

Kinda sad that it wont be the Object 777, but this seems like it will be decent enough as from the description it will simply be a up tired T-10 with more of everything.

(Russian WZ-11111-5A?)

 

----> something to note: https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2018/04/04/wot-new-russian-tanks-postponed/

unfortunately for those of you who have ground out XP on your T-10 or 430 Ver.2 will have to wait quite awhile. as these new tank have been delayed till next year..........

 

 

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So a Russian med can get a high velocity, high pen sniping gun but any buffs like that to the Leopard 1 would make it OP, ok then.

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They seem.... reasonable? Not UP nor broken, and fitting in their respective lines pretty well (although 430V2 line is all kinda messy).

So where's the catch WG? :doge: 

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1 hour ago, Strigonx said:

They asked the Blitz devs if they could have the K-91 lmao

K91 has two versions. This is the second blueprint irrc with the rear turret. Kind of weird since this came earlier than both 430 II and 416, and was also a heavy.

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If they're nearly on the supertest I doubt we'll have to wait 'till 2019 for them.

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30 minutes ago, Sapros said:

If they're nearly on the supertest I doubt we'll have to wait 'till 2019 for them.

i posted a link in the OP where a WG staff member confirmed that the new Russian tanks would not be coming before the polish tech tree.

and the polish tech tree isn't supposed to come around until the fall/winter season.....

so i think its safe to say they will be a early 2019 release 

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I knew it

f you want weakspots use gold. That's WG's doctrine for over a year now. :kappa:

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Found something interesting about the Obj 277 in the War Thunder Forum.  It was based on ideas from the Is7 and T-10. Hmm I want to change my bet from Obj 777 to 277.

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/258986-soviet-heavy-tank-object-277/&

Development:

"In 1957 the Object 277 was developed by J.Y. Kotin's design bureau. The new tank was based on the ideas from the IS-7 and the T-10. Object 277 was armed with a 130 mm M-65 gun and a coaxial 14.5mm KPVT machine-gun. The gun was equipped with a Groza (Thunderstorm) 2-plane stabilizer and a night vision system. Ammunition consisted of 26 shells for the main gun and 250 rounds for the machine-gun. The tank had a diesel engine of 1,090hp. The Object 277 was equipped with an anti-nuclear defense system, a system of clearing the sights and a system for underwater river crossings. The crew consisted of four men, and the tank had good maneuverability. Two tanks were built in 1958."

 

 

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The 277 looks like its trying really hard to be just like the IS-7 and the WZ 5A but has yet to present a significant edge over either. Maybe that's balanced, but doesn't seem all that interesting. Also RIP IS-4 you remain neglected and powercrept even more.

The K-91 naturally seems like a bigger 416 just as planned, but it still has the same alpha and DPM two whole tiers higher, and may even be losing out on some camo. And from the description it'll still have a limited traverse turret and bad depression. Unless its a cheaper tank to run (but at tier 10, fat chance) I fail to see the point. Now the question is are they going to suddenly turn tanks like the A-44 and 430 II into snipers to match the line. That could be a good thing, but it could also go horribly wrong. Taking all bets!

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Guard manages 360 turret and accurate gun yet tree tanks can't... sigh.

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4 hours ago, Mikosah said:

The 277 looks like its trying really hard to be just like the IS-7 and the WZ 5A but has yet to present a significant edge over either. Maybe that's balanced, but doesn't seem all that interesting. Also RIP IS-4 you remain neglected and powercrept even more.

The K-91 naturally seems like a bigger 416 just as planned, but it still has the same alpha and DPM two whole tiers higher, and may even be losing out on some camo. And from the description it'll still have a limited traverse turret and bad depression. Unless its a cheaper tank to run (but at tier 10, fat chance) I fail to see the point. Now the question is are they going to suddenly turn tanks like the A-44 and 430 II into snipers to match the line. That could be a good thing, but it could also go horribly wrong. Taking all bets!

277 has very, very nice penetration at 265 with standard and 350 with HEAT, and 0.35 base accuracy. Its literally the T-10 but at tier 10. Its also faster than the 5A ans probably can reach its speed better than the IS-7, so its overall the fastest out of the bunch. It has worse DPM and depression than the 5A, tho

It should be very enjoyable to play cus it shares the exact the same traits as the T-10 that makes it enjoyable

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