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Supertest: K-91 (Tier X after Obj. 430 II)

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https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2018/04/15/supertest-k-91-complete-stats-hd-renders/

Tier: MT-10, USSR, standard
HP: 1800
Engine power: 500 hp
Mass: 45 t
Maximum load: 50 t
Power-to-weight: 11,11 hp / t
Max speed / Min speed: 55 / -20 km / h
Hull turning speed: 50 °/s
Turret turning speed: 46,9 °/s
Terrain resistance values: 0,863 / 0,959 / 1,918
View range: 410 m
Radio range: 730 m

Hull armor: 140 / 60 / 45 mm
Turret armor: 220 / 140 / 60 mm

Gun: 100 mm D-46T

Alpha Damage: 320 / 320 / 420
Penetration: 276 / 330 / 50 mm
Rate of fire: 8,147 rounds/minute
Damage per minute: 2 607,1
Reload time: 7,364 s
Accuracy at 100 m: 0,316
Aiming time: 1,82 s
Depression/Elevation: -5 / +20

The stats are definitely going to change, holy shit that p/w is abysmal lol

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And the dpm... 

It's like they are going to leave it like that,  have everyone ignore it then buff it  at release to be on par with the other stuff in hopes they can get some hype out of it. 

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2 hours ago, Ezz said:

And the dpm... 

It's like they are going to leave it like that,  have everyone ignore it then buff it  at release to be on par with the other stuff  broken as balls in hopes they can get some hype out of it. 

Fixed that for you. The only reason why this may not be broken is WG is paranoidally afraid of tanks that can snipe and use vision since it angers the average Ivan player on RU server

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26 minutes ago, Tupinambis said:

How the Hell is that thing 45 tons? Is it actually huge or something?

It was meant to be a heavy tank IRL, so yeah...

IIRC it had like 150mm side armor or something as well. I have no idea why they made this thing a MT. Probably a lack of candidates, I guess (STG with just enough buffs would have been a better tier X, I guess, but heyyyy that is already a premium so eh).

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Someone at WG pointed out to the devs thats it looked like a light tanks with the first stat that they gave it, so they nerfed it to this,  cause you know, the "lights have to be bad at tier X" clause everyone working there has to sign.

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1 hour ago, Tupinambis said:

How the Hell is that thing 45 tons? Is it actually huge or something?

It's supposed to be a heavy tank, and was planned before the IS-7, T-10, 430, 416 and all the other oddball Soviet tanks with the crazy weight cutting measures.

2 hours ago, Ezz said:

And the dpm... 

It's like they are going to leave it like that,  have everyone ignore it then buff it  at release to be on par with the other stuff in hopes they can get some hype out of it. 

IMO they're probably going to go crazy on the armour to make it something like a semi-turreted Soviet S-tank.

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Object 277 actually existed, tho - one of them still sits in Kubinka today! But yeah, they should kinda give more love for other nations (where is muh Japanese TD line :v)

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If I'm going to be spamming those same 100mm HEAT shells in any case, might as well do it two whole tiers lower in the obj 416.

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From official source: ' During the first stage of the Supertest, only the turret will offer meaningful protection on the K-91. '

I have a bad feeling about this


(http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/575526-st-new-soviet-tier-x-tanks-k-91-object-277/)

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maybe this ads some more stats we didn´t have yet.

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And it found its way into the tech tree (Supertest)

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But according to the russian WOT Express VK page it still isn´t planned for the next two patches. 

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19 hours ago, hall0 said:

maybe this ads some more stats we didn´t have yet.

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And it found its way into the tech tree (Supertest)

Atleast with those stats I wouldn't consider the Leopard 1 to be the shittiest tier 10 medium anymore assuming it doesn't have some retarded armor layout, not that it would ever get released in this state.

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Retarded armor layout? Hold my beer!

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There are two variants. But look at this topview, I don´t know if it is the same for both variants but damn. By the looks of the pics I expected a boxy tank but it is well rounded. I can already smell the spaced armor. 

 

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the frontal hull portion i suspect will be weak, it may be 140mm but its piratically un-angled 

also the turret is only 220 and has that massive cupola thingy on the right side which looks like it would only maybe reach 240-250mm at best.

just like the 416 @ tier 8 i dont think you will be able to rely on its armor at all.

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That hp/ton is atrocious and if they want to make the gun a stand out sniper then the DPM, accuracy and soft stats need to be better. DPM should be at least on par with it;s other Russian counterparts, accuracy they should make like 0.28 base and turret dispersion should basically be nothing, like 0.04. 

 

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It's funny since the new t10 heavy seems a better sniper than this.

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On 5/26/2018 at 8:09 PM, hazzgar said:

It's funny since the new t10 heavy seems a better sniper than this.

Sad but true, especially if you load your 'lolpen' 350 APCR rounds with better velocity than the K-91 has (it's supposed stand out stat).

Played about 4 games on test with this thing, it's basically a pointless tank, from what I could see the armour was basically paper against tier 10, you might bounce some 200 - 220 pen guns and get the odd auto-bounce but your T-62A or Obj. 140 has way more usable armour.

So you are left as this support tank, but what exactly have you got? An awkward rear turret that doesn't fully rotate, barely anymore accuracy than a T-62A and abit more pen/shell velocity.

it feels sluggish as well, 277s easily out accelerate you. 

I also don;t get the 0.13 moving dispersion, like WG want to specifically punish you if you want to fire after moving in this tank, but traversing on the spot is apparently fine.

I think this tank is the more interesting of the two new tanks, but in current state it is just not worth it.

What you gain as a sniper over an Obj. 140 or T-62A is 12mm of pen, 10m view range, like 0.02 accuracy, a little bit more camo and a bit more shell velocity. Bonuses that you won't feel much in game. 

For those you trade mobility, gun handling, armour and you are way more awkward to use. 

That's a bad trade.

IMO -

  • Buff hp/ton to like 18-20.
  • Accuracy buff to like 0.28 at least
  • Top speed to 60kph
  • Reverse speed to 25kph
  • Dispersion down to 0.10/0.10/0.06 

Then it at least is more mobile than the other Russian meds, it's a better spotter and it's clearly more accurate. 

 

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31 minutes ago, tajj7 said:

Sad but true, especially if you load your 'lolpen' 350 APCR rounds with better velocity than the K-91 has (it's supposed stand out stat).

Played about 4 games on test with this thing, it's basically a pointless tank, from what I could see the armour was basically paper against tier 10, you might bounce some 200 - 220 pen guns and get the odd auto-bounce but your T-62A or Obj. 140 has way more usable armour.

So you are left as this support tank, but what exactly have you got? An awkward rear turret that doesn't fully rotate, barely anymore accuracy than a T-62A and abit more pen/shell velocity.

it feels sluggish as well, 277s easily out accelerate you. 

I also don;t get the 0.13 moving dispersion, like WG want to specifically punish you if you want to fire after moving in this tank, but traversing on the spot is apparently fine.

I think this tank is the more interesting of the two new tanks, but in current state it is just not worth it.

What you gain as a sniper over an Obj. 140 or T-62A is 12mm of pen, 10m view range, like 0.02 accuracy, a little bit more camo and a bit more shell velocity. Bonuses that you won't feel much in game. 

For those you trade mobility, gun handling, armour and you are way more awkward to use. 

That's a bad trade.

IMO -

  • Buff hp/ton to like 18-20.
  • Accuracy buff to like 0.28 at least
  • Top speed to 60kph
  • Reverse speed to 25kph
  • Dispersion down to 0.10/0.10/0.06 

Then it at least is more mobile than the other Russian meds, it's a better spotter and it's clearly more accurate. 

 

I'd go even further with dispersion buffs. It's still a rear turret tanks and those are notoriously shit. It should have t-100lt dispersion with 0,28 acc or even 0,26 acc

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7 minutes ago, hazzgar said:

I'd go even further with dispersion buffs. It's still a rear turret tanks and those are notoriously shit. It should have t-100lt dispersion with 0,28 acc or even 0,26 acc

Certainly could do. 

Accuracy needs to be stretched anyway, I'd like to see tanks down to like 0.15 accuracy, considering how little practical difference there is between 0.3 and 0.4 and like 80% of the tanks in the game fit in that bracket. 

Would like to see similar done to the Leo, basically the K-91 and the Leo should be the super accurate mobile snipers of tier 10, so Leo should also get pen buff, accuracy buff, velocity buff and maybe an alpha buff but trade off for lower DPM so something like -

  • 450 alpha
  • 278mm pen
  • 1700 m/s shell velocity
  • 0.24 accuracy.
  • 0.10/0.10/0.06 dispersion
  • DPM down to like 2.5k base

 

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