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Careful it might be learning - WG goes back on pref tanks changes

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https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/preferential-matchmaking-fixes/

According to WG they realized they were making a mistake by trying to change the pref MM tanks to regular premium tanks. So preferential MM will be kept but those tanks will be buffed to fit better the meta. (Lol FCM mobility and Type 59 buffs)

Also they are studying a new algorithm to fix the MM: 

"In its current state, the matchmaker often fails to ensure proper rotation between the top/middle/bottom of the list. Getting matched at the same position for several battles in a row slows down progression and degrades the overall experience for absolutely all vehicles. Unfortunately, simply tweaking the current algorithm won’t fix it.

We tried to artificially lower the probability of getting preferential Premiums in +1 Tier and same-tier battles. However, this created more problems by increasing the number of single-tier battles and waiting times for not only Tier VIII and IX but tanks tiered VI-X.

So we’re looking into redesigning the underlying matchmaker rules to improve 3/5/7, 10/5, and 15 template distribution. This will aim to prevent cases of spending 80% of in-game time in 3/5/7 battles at the bottom of the list.

As you can understand, to find the optimal solution will take some time (about half a year) and we ask for your patience. We have already laid down a plan and work on the matchmaker is underway. We will give more information when we have it in a separate article, so keep an eye out."    

Let's see how they will fuck this up.

 

 

 

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I've been wondering this since they talked about it the first time and here it is again: At first I thought it's all pref-MMs, but then the narrative always only focused on the T8-pref-MMs without ever mentioning the other pref-MMs. Why is it only the T8 pref-MMs that are "a problem for the matchmaker"? So disingenious. Just yet another sign that the matchmaker was and is the problem, not the tanks.

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T26E4 is going to be a monster

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"In its current state, the pref mm tanks often fails to ensure proper rotation between the top/middle/bottom of the list. Getting matched at the same position for several battles in a row slows down progression and degrades the overall experience for absolutely all vehicles. Unfortunately, simply tweaking the algorithm has proven to be impossible.

We artificially lowered the probability of getting preferential Premiums in +1 Tier and same-tier battles. However, this created more problems by increasing the number of single-tier battles and waiting times for not only Tier VIII and IX but tanks tiered VI-X and we're too stupid to know how to fix it.

So we looked into redesigning the underlying matchmaker rules to improve 3/5/7, 10/5, and 15 template distribution. This was to to prevent cases of spending 80% of in-game time in 3/5/7 battles at the bottom of the list. Now you spend every game bottom tier unless you're a BR.

As you can understand, to find the optimal solution is simply... impossible! We simply can't and won't try anymore. We have already laid down a plan and work on the matchmaker has failed. We will give more information on how you can go fuck yourselves at a later date."    

Already wrote the article for them 6 months from now.

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I traded the FCM a while ago - it's buff does not look very impressive.  I kept the super pershing though, I'm glad I did - its going to solid as fuck now

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If WG actually listened to its playerbase, they would have removed template MM within 9-12 months max of introduction after realising that nothing they were going to do was going to fix it. 

 

If WG actually listened to its playerbase, they would have found that general player consensus about OP and broken tanks are correct 90% of the time and that they don't need to wait 12 months to nerf a tank they introduced OP.

 

If WG actually listened to its playerbase, the playerbase would not have dropped as steeply as it has over the past 12 months. 

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Clearly the shitstorm was too big to cover for the wonderful PR team. Anyway admitting you have a problem is the first step is the firs step to a solution, until not long ago the MM was so tweaked to perfection that it:

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"reached a level of performance that met the expectations of both the community and the dev team."

I can't forget that and it was just 2 month ago. Will see what they come up with in 6 month, I hope something solid, I expect nothing, I fear something even worse. I mean look at personal reserves: it's 1 or 2 hours, it's stupid to base that on time like old silver camo (that is now battle based). They said they would've fixed that and base that on number of battles, they are working on it since probably a year. I understand that there're many much more important issues to be working on but if they take so long so fix such a small and insignificant thing (and easy to fix and that already have a solution) how can we expect serious results for bigger matters? I have really little hope at this point, WG ruined one of the best game I've ever played, no competitor could've done that. They will have to work really hard to regain some trust. 

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Am I the only one who thinks the supposed buffs to the IS-6 are just about horseshit? I mean going from 175 to 182 for pen? What is it supposed to accomplish? The tank is still going to be badly gimped facing something like a Defender or a VK100.01.

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Hmm, I kind of don't mind the FCM which I picked up a little while back. DPM and gun handling were the two areas I would have suggested to be improved if it lost pref-MM, and also its main weaknesses (DPM in particular, when you compare it to say the T-44, which has 10 more alpha but a better rate of fire). That it's getting a DPM buff is decent, and slightly improved mobility will basically make it slightly better at what it currently does. I've done okay with it so far so I suppose that's okay. T-34-3 buffs are disappointing, only HEAT velocity (but not pen) and slightly better AP pen, whereas the Type 59 gets a lot more love. :(Will probably trade in the very first premium I bought at this rate.

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31 minutes ago, DirtyACE7 said:

Am I the only one who thinks the supposed buffs to the IS-6 are just about horseshit? I mean going from 175 to 182 for pen? What is it supposed to accomplish? The tank is still going to be badly gimped facing something like a Defender or a VK100.01.

most of the buffs are shit really. Basically if you dont have 200+ base pen as a tier 8 heavy facing other T8's you a screwed (looking mainly at the defender etc) Not even going into the T9s 

Placating the masses is bascially what ive gleaned from the article. Other then that, 6 months for the MM fix is basically a death sentence to T8s/player retention. Can't see myself sticking around or wanting to wait that long for a fix to the 3/5/7(bet they will change it to 3/6/6 or some bullshit)

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9 hours ago, MagicalFlyingFox said:

If WG actually listened to its playerbase, the playerbase would not have dropped as steeply as it has over the past 3 years 12 months

 

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2 hours ago, RC_Tank said:

cant wait until they overbuff the IS6 and it shits on defenders

Defenders are prototype IS-6s I believe, time to show them the real deal.

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2 hours ago, RC_Tank said:

cant wait until they overbuff the IS6 and it shits on defenders

 

9 minutes ago, Ham_ said:

Defenders are prototype IS-6s I believe, time to show them the real deal.

Check the link in the first post for stat changes. 225 premium shell means the king ain’t dead.

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13 hours ago, Balthazars said:

Hmm, I kind of don't mind the FCM which I picked up a little while back. DPM and gun handling were the two areas I would have suggested to be improved if it lost pref-MM, and also its main weaknesses (DPM in particular, when you compare it to say the T-44, which has 10 more alpha but a better rate of fire). That it's getting a DPM buff is decent, and slightly improved mobility will basically make it slightly better at what it currently does. I've done okay with it so far so I suppose that's okay. T-34-3 buffs are disappointing, only HEAT velocity (but not pen) and slightly better AP pen, whereas the Type 59 gets a lot more love. :(Will probably trade in the very first premium I bought at this rate.

FCM needs better gun handling and/or turret armour to make exposure less punishing. Otherwise it's still going to be frustrating and stressful to play, much like the rest of WoT in general.

The T-34-3 gets -6.5 gun depression, which is a mere 0.5 degrees less than the Type and the T-44. With a 390 alpha gun this is about as good as it gets. Not saying this will make the tank good, but it will be a better meme tank than ever.

2 hours ago, Ham_ said:

Defenders are prototype IS-6s I believe, time to show them the real deal.

Defenders are upgraded IS-6s. The official designation of the IS-6 is Obj 252, the U on the Defender just means modernised.

182 pen is still shit and 225 APCR underwhelming. I was expecting something like 200 base pen with 235 APCR. Guess that was too much for WG

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>T-34-3 gets almost -7 deg gun depression
122 is back on the menu, bois!

also holy shit the SP is gonna be a speed demon now
look out defender a real american's riot shield is here

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1 hour ago, hall0 said:

T34-3 gets anothet buff. And still has to face only T9s. 

Meanwhile even the last T34-2 drivers commit suicide. 

This two tanks are the perfect example WG does not care about balance in any way. 

Didn’t wg say they explicitly planned on buffing it and the wz-120?

 

.... like 6 frigging months ago? Why is wg so fucking slow? 

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Watching WG fuck up more and more with WoT makes me moist. What can I say? I love watching people suffer.

WG had a great product on their hands, one that could have lived for years upon years and they just keep stabbing it with rusty knives and 'heal' the wounds with acid. Fucking retards, man...

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There is always a chance this is their way of caving with some shred of dignity intact. If they just increase the 10/5 and single tier games a lot at expense of the frequency of 3/5/7 it could be the game saver they need. Imagine if the odds were 1/3 for all three, that would be a revolution that would bring a lot of people back.

Hahaha, j/k, they're idiots.

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