Assassin7

Elimination: Tier 9 - 2018

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T-10: 30 

T-54: 26

T49: 25 

WZ-111 1-4: 25

AMX M4 51: 24

Conqueror: 25 

E75: 24

Type 4 Heavy: 23

AMX 30: 23 

E50: 21

Skoda T50: 21

T95: 21

Leopard PTA: 21

Object 430: 21

STRV 103-0: 21

Object 263: 20

WT Auf Pz. IV: 20

Object 704: 20

Tortoise: 20

Mauschen: 20

T30: 20

50TP: 20

Standard B: 20

Centurion 7/1: 19 

M46 Patton: 19 =1=20 maybe sentiment only, but I still think it's good. 

B-C 25t AP: 18

Jagdtiger: 18

AMX 13 90: 17 

ST-I: 17

Object 257: 17

WZ-132A: 17

WZ-120: 17

 Object 705: 17

WZ-111G FT: 12 

Conway: 14

RU 251: 14

T54E1 : 12

Foch: 11 -3 = 8 cause fuck it's derpy gun and everything else about it. 

T-54 LW: 8

Type 61: 8

AMX 50 120: 8

VK 4502 (B): 6

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T-10: 30 

T-54: 26+1 = 27 - Best medium tank at tier 9. best combination of armour+speed+gun+camo. 

T49: 25 

WZ-111 1-4: 25

AMX M4 51: 24

Conqueror: 25 

E75: 24

Type 4 Heavy: 23

AMX 30: 23 

E50: 21

Skoda T50: 21

T95: 21

Leopard PTA: 21

Object 430: 21

STRV 103-0: 21

Object 263: 20

WT Auf Pz. IV: 20

Object 704: 20

Tortoise: 20

Mauschen: 20

T30: 20

50TP: 20

Standard B: 20

Centurion 7/1: 19 

M46 Patton: 20

B-C 25t AP: 18

Jagdtiger: 18

AMX 13 90: 17 

ST-I: 17

Object 257: 17

WZ-132A: 17

WZ-120: 17

 Object 705: 17

WZ-111G FT: 12-3=8 Ill be honest, I haven't even seen enough of these being played to remember what its good at, where its armour is or what it even looks like. So it must really suck

Conway: 14

RU 251: 14

T54E1 : 12

Foch: 8

T-54 LW: 8

Type 61: 8

AMX 50 120: 8

VK 4502 (B): 6

 

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1 hour ago, Assassin7 said:

WZ-111G FT: 12-3=8 Ill be honest, I haven't even seen enough of these being played to remember what its good at, where its armour is or what it even looks like. So it must really suck

tbf the line in general is really boring and the tier 8 is worse to play (not worse a tank) than the 65t. good players in general like mobile tanks and good players are mostly the ones who grind new tanks. But without good players to test new tanks out, I suppose most pubbies have to be a bit cautious when getting new stuff. 

fyi the WZ-111 G FT is a dedicated trading TD with a riot shield at the front that just about bounces all normal ammo in the game while packing a 395 pen HEAT bazooka. It has a 2.4 base aimtime for some reason, goes -16 in reverse and even has -6 gun depression which is tarded for a Cheenois tank with a 152 mil. It's incredibly one dimensional, more so than a Type 4, but also has an even easier time with armour than the Type 4. IMO it's gud.

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T-10: 30 

T-54: 27 

T49: 25 

WZ-111 1-4: 25

AMX M4 51: 24

Conqueror: 25 +1 = 26 after saying the t10 is good I got the typical curse of shit teams and brainfarts on my part I get every time I praise a tank so I upvote this to fix my t10 curse. Also if not t10 then this is the best.

E75: 24

Type 4 Heavy: 23

AMX 30: 23 

E50: 21

Skoda T50: 21

T95: 21

Leopard PTA: 21

Object 430: 21

STRV 103-0: 21

Object 263: 20

WT Auf Pz. IV: 20

Object 704: 20

Tortoise: 20

Mauschen: 20

T30: 20

50TP: 20

Standard B: 20

Centurion 7/1: 19 

M46 Patton: 20

B-C 25t AP: 18

Jagdtiger: 18

AMX 13 90: 17 

ST-I: 17

Object 257: 17

WZ-132A: 17

WZ-120: 17

 Object 705: 17

WZ-111G FT: 8

Conway: 14 -3 = 11 Why is no one else downvoting it? Other tds at least have non shit bloom, armor, alpha, pen. This has nothing.

RU 251: 14

T54E1 : 12

Foch: 8

T-54 LW: 8

Type 61: 8

AMX 50 120: 8

VK 4502 (B): 6

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Jagdtiger 18+1= 19.

Same reasons as yesterday really. Good gun and dpm etc. If you choose your victims wisely it's a devastating tank.  I'll admit it's a team dependent tank,  if you get isolated it's game over as it's easy knock it out. At my level I'm dependant on my team in most tanks so it's a mute point.

 

T54E1 12-3= 9.

My old friend,  it's so sad to watch this tank fall from where it was. Back in the day, it was a little monster. Decent mobility,  decent burst, excellent gold round, ok to make it work consistently you had to spam gold and it bled credits,  but it was fun to play. In today's meta it's useless unfortunately.  WG could really do with showing it some love.  I'd buy it back in a heartbeat if the buffed it sufficiently.  But as of today, it has no place on this list. :-(

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3 hours ago, hazzgar said:

Conway: 14 -3 = 11 Why is no one else downvoting it? Other tds at least have non shit bloom, armor, alpha, pen. This has nothing.

Idk if you know but the Conway now has a 260/600 damage gun with 200/770 HESH on a 4.2 base ROF, aka 4.2k DPM firing HESH, which is two hitting all tier 7s in 11 seconds.

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7 minutes ago, Ham_ said:

Idk if you know but the Conway now has a 260/600 damage gun with 200/770 HESH on a 4.2 base ROF, aka 4.2k DPM firing HESH, which is two hitting all tier 7s in 11 seconds.

I know. The problem is that top gun also has no high pen prem round which means you are screwed vs armored tanks. 200pen with 0.38 acc and shit bloom means you will actually be lowering your DPM firing hesh even if sometimes you pen. You know armorcreep meta exists.

To me it's plagued by the same problems as the CDC - soft tanks in corridor meta need reliable guns or at least semi reliable guns that can do massive damage. 

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14 minutes ago, hazzgar said:

I know. The problem is that top gun also has no high pen prem round which means you are screwed vs armored tanks. 200pen with 0.38 acc and shit bloom means you will actually be lowering your DPM firing hesh even if sometimes you pen. You know armorcreep meta exists.

To me it's plagued by the same problems as the CDC - soft tanks in corridor meta need reliable guns or at least semi reliable guns that can do massive damage. 

The Conway is easy to deal with. As long as it's not pointing it's BOOM stick directly at you it's just a hitpoints pinata. You can pen the thing everywhere which means half aimed shots are viable if you have decent base pen. I think that hurts the Conway even more as it takes 3 weeks to aim it fully...

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41 minutes ago, hazzgar said:

I know. The problem is that top gun also has no high pen prem round which means you are screwed vs armored tanks. 200pen with 0.38 acc and shit bloom means you will actually be lowering your DPM firing hesh even if sometimes you pen. You know armorcreep meta exists.

To me it's plagued by the same problems as the CDC - soft tanks in corridor meta need reliable guns or at least semi reliable guns that can do massive damage. 

Its a tier 9 soviet box tank, except this one specializes in dicking on tier 7 and 8s, not so much 9s and 10s. Its a unique tank, but not bad. Its definitely workable because a turret gives you the flexibility to make up for camo.

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18 minutes ago, Ham_ said:

Its a tier 9 soviet box tank, except this one specializes in dicking on tier 7 and 8s, not so much 9s and 10s. Its a unique tank, but not bad. Its definitely workable because a turret gives you the flexibility to make up for camo.

It's not as good at screwing low tiers as you think given the bloom is HORRIBLE. Also the 600/770 alpha gun is even worse because no prem rounds mean even the vk1001p will be problematic at range. Soviet box tanks are good at hiting their target. Conway is not. If you cut the bloom by 50% the tank might be good but now? Corridor meta, almost no armor except for the mantlet covering a small part of the turret, bad bloom, low top speed for the armor, huge profile. @zbran is right. Conway has to aim way to long so in that time you will snap it and hide. I'd literally take any other t9 TD over it. 

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16 minutes ago, hazzgar said:

It's not as good at screwing low tiers as you think given the bloom is HORRIBLE. Also the 600/770 alpha gun is even worse because no prem rounds mean even the vk1001p will be problematic at range. Soviet box tanks are good at hiting their target. Conway is not. If you cut the bloom by 50% the tank might be good but now? Corridor meta, almost no armor except for the mantlet covering a small part of the turret, bad bloom, low top speed for the armor, huge profile. @zbran is right. Conway has to aim way to long so in that time you will snap it and hide. I'd literally take any other t9 TD over it. 

You got me wrong. Soviet box tank is the one and only Su-100Y.

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T-10: 30 

T-54: 27

T49: 25 

WZ-111 1-4: 25

AMX M4 51: 24

Conqueror: 26

E75: 24 + 1 = 25 Reliable, comfortable, effective in almost any map.  If it weren't for the Type 4, this would be the king of the tier 9 corridor meta, IMHO.

Type 4 Heavy: 23

AMX 30: 23 

E50: 21

Skoda T50: 21

T95: 21

Leopard PTA: 21

Object 430: 21

STRV 103-0: 21

Object 263: 20

WT Auf Pz. IV: 20

Object 704: 20

Tortoise: 20

Mauschen: 20

T30: 20

50TP: 20

Standard B: 20

Centurion 7/1: 19 

M46 Patton: 20

B-C 25t AP: 18

Jagdtiger: 18

AMX 13 90: 17 

ST-I: 17

Object 257: 17

WZ-132A: 17

WZ-120: 17

 Object 705: 17

WZ-111G FT: 8

Conway: 11

RU 251: 14

T54E1 : 12

Foch: 8

T-54 LW: 8

Type 61: 8

AMX 50 120: 8

VK 4502 (B): 6 - 3 = 3 For f***'s sake, someone else help me put this out of its misery already.  I never got to play this before the LFP nerf, and that one nerf deprived this thing of its one real selling point (the ability to poke corners with near impunity).

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1 hour ago, Ham_ said:

You got me wrong. Soviet box tank is the one and only Su-100Y.

SU100Y is similar in that it has no prem round but it's standard pen is so strong that it doesn't really need it. 190 pen on a t6 td is like 300-310 on a t9. Also it's alpha relative to its tier is much better. Conway without hesh doesn't even have best alpha in tier. 

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41 minutes ago, hazzgar said:

SU100Y is similar in that it has no prem round but it's standard pen is so strong that it doesn't really need it. 190 pen on a t6 td is like 300-310 on a t9. Also it's alpha relative to its tier is much better. Conway without hesh doesn't even have best alpha in tier. 

190 pen is very mediocre against tier 7 and 8s for a TD with bad arc. 260 pen is very good as a standard round but mediocre against heavily armored tanks.. in particular tier 10s. See the pattern here? Yes less alpha tier for tier but you get a turret and much better mobility. Keep in mind HP increases more then alpha as you go up from tier 6 and every tank gets equally handicapped for tier for tier alpha so it's not that big an issue.

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T-10: 30 

T-54: 27

T49: 25 

WZ-111 1-4: 25

AMX M4 51: 24

Conqueror: 26

E75: 25 

Type 4 Heavy: 23

AMX 30: 23 

E50: 21+1 = 22 Because Straik says so

Skoda T50: 21

T95: 21

Leopard PTA: 21

Object 430: 21

STRV 103-0: 21

Object 263: 20

WT Auf Pz. IV: 20

Object 704: 20

Tortoise: 20

Mauschen: 20

T30: 20 

50TP: 20

Standard B: 20

Centurion 7/1: 19 

M46 Patton: 20

B-C 25t AP: 18

Jagdtiger: 18

AMX 13 90: 17 

ST-I: 17

Object 257: 17

WZ-132A: 17

WZ-120: 17

 Object 705: 17

WZ-111G FT: 8

Conway: 11

RU 251: 14

T54E1 : 12

Foch: 8

T-54 LW: 8

Type 61: 8

AMX 50 120: 8

VK 4502 (B):  - 3 = 0 Mercy killing

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T-10: 30 

T-54: 27

T49: 25 

WZ-111 1-4: 25

AMX M4 51: 24

Conqueror: 26

E75: 25 

Type 4 Heavy: 23

AMX 30: 23 

E50: 22

Skoda T50: 21

T95: 21+1=12 corridor god. tanks fall like bowling pins against this combination of armour, alpha, and DPM.

Leopard PTA: 21

Object 430: 21

STRV 103-0: 21

Object 263: 20

WT Auf Pz. IV: 20

Object 704: 20

Tortoise: 20

Mauschen: 20

T30: 20 

50TP: 20

Standard B: 20

Centurion 7/1: 19 

M46 Patton: 20

B-C 25t AP: 18

Jagdtiger: 18

AMX 13 90: 17 

ST-I: 17

Object 257: 17

WZ-132A: 17

WZ-120: 17

Object 705: 17

WZ-111G FT: 8

Conway: 11

RU 251: 14-3=11: passable scout but is shat on by everything with a gun or without. Definitely among the Top 10 tanks for masochists @ tier 9.

T54E1 : 12

Foch: 8

T-54 LW: 8

Type 61: 8

AMX 50 120: 8

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T-10: 30 

T-54: 27

T49: 25 

WZ-111 1-4: 25

AMX M4 51: 24

Conqueror: 26 + 1 = 27 Because I grinded through it, when it was a really, really an absurdly squishy tank with wonkey gun depression, with the gun being the only good thing about the tank and I still enjoyed it. It only got better since then.

E75: 25 

Type 4 Heavy: 23

AMX 30: 23 

E50: 22

Skoda T50: 21

T95: 22

Leopard PTA: 21 - 3 = 18 Because it is inferior to the AMX 30B prototype in every way, except for having a better hull traverse, while filling pretty much the exact same niche.

Object 430: 21

STRV 103-0: 21

Object 263: 20

WT Auf Pz. IV: 20

Object 704: 20

Tortoise: 20

Mauschen: 20

T30: 20 

50TP: 20

Standard B: 20

Centurion 7/1: 19 

M46 Patton: 20

B-C 25t AP: 18

Jagdtiger: 18

AMX 13 90: 17 

ST-I: 17

Object 257: 17

WZ-132A: 17

WZ-120: 17

Object 705: 17

WZ-111G FT: 8

Conway: 11

RU 251: 11

T54E1 : 12

Foch: 8

T-54 LW: 8

Type 61: 8

AMX 50 120: 8

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T-10: 30 

T-54: 27

T49: 25 

WZ-111 1-4: 25

AMX M4 51: 24

Conqueror: 27

E75: 25 

Type 4 Heavy: 23

AMX 30: 23 +1 = 24 - nice all arounder and great mobility + fun to play

E50: 22

Skoda T50: 21

T95: 22

Leopard PTA: 18 -3 = 15 crap... this aint fitting into todays meta

Object 430: 21

STRV 103-0: 21

Object 263: 20

WT Auf Pz. IV: 20

Object 704: 20

Tortoise: 20

Mauschen: 20

T30: 20 

50TP: 20

Standard B: 20

Centurion 7/1: 19 

M46 Patton: 20

B-C 25t AP: 18

Jagdtiger: 18

AMX 13 90: 17 

ST-I: 17

Object 257: 17

WZ-132A: 17

WZ-120: 17

Object 705: 17

WZ-111G FT: 8

Conway: 11

RU 251: 11

T54E1 : 12

Foch: 8

T-54 LW: 8

Type 61: 8

AMX 50 120: 8

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Can someone please update my votes for Jagdtiger and T54E1.  To 19 and 9 respectively. It's hard to copy and pasta everything on mobile.  Thanks.

 

Conway 11-3= 8

I'm going to break my own rule here by voting for something I don't own, but this thing has no place on this list period! I came up against one of these again last night while tooning with @Vindiand we mauled it. We caught him in a bad spot and he could literally do nothing. I popped up on his side while he was looking forward and got 2 shots into him in my Caernarvon before he even pointed his turret at me. Seconds later he was dead and we steamrolled on.  I think this is a bit of a hipster tank. Imo it's beyond useless.

 

T10 30+1= 31

I used to like this tank when it was the IS8, I know it was considered mediocre back then, but I still liked it. It was my first tier 9 and I've never sold it. So it was just a bonus when they turned it into the T10. What can you say about it really. It's just good at most things and can help limit the "shit map" issues some tanks have, as you can almost always find a place or role for it on any map. An excellent all rounder imo.

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9 hours ago, Archaic_One said:

VK 4502 (B):  - 3 = 0 Mercy killing

'bout goddamned time.

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Adjusted for @zbran's votes:

T-10: 31

T-54: 27

T49: 25 

WZ-111 1-4: 25

AMX M4 51: 24

Conqueror: 27

E75: 25 

Type 4 Heavy: 23

AMX 30: 24

E50: 22

Skoda T50: 21

T95: 22 + 1 = 23 The ultimate meatshield/defensive bulwark.  Can help lead a push as long as you have company, the improved mobility makes it a LOT harder to flank, the low position of the gun means you are basically even with LFPs, so you don't have to use much sprem.  It's like an Easy button with some lulz as a side order.

Leopard PTA: 15

Object 430: 21

STRV 103-0: 21

Object 263: 20

WT Auf Pz. IV: 20

Object 704: 20

Tortoise: 20

Mauschen: 20

T30: 20 

50TP: 20

Standard B: 20

Centurion 7/1: 19 

M46 Patton: 20

B-C 25t AP: 18

Jagdtiger: 19

AMX 13 90: 17 

ST-I: 17

Object 257: 17

WZ-132A: 17

WZ-120: 17

Object 705: 17

WZ-111G FT: 8

Conway: 8

RU 251: 11 - 3 = 8 Difficult call for me, because I actually really like this tank.  This was the one tank I wanted more than any other when I first started playing, b/c 80kph zoom zoom.  Then the great Scout Nerf^H^H^H^Hrebalancing happened, and it got uptiered while losing some (but not all) of what made it special, but without receiving a single appreciable buff.  The pen wasn't enough, b/c it's basically a tier 8 medium pew pew gun - it isn't going to scare anyone.  You can't bounce a ping pong ball, and unless you're in a wide open map with lots of cover (*cough* *giggle*), you can't leverage what advantages you do have.  But it's still a ton of fun to drive because...zoom zoom.  I feel a bit dirty for downvoting this, but I'm trying to stick (for now) to voting only on tanks I have owned.

T54E1 : 9

Foch: 8

T-54 LW: 8

Type 61: 8

AMX 50 120: 8

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T-10: 31

T-54: 27

T49: 25 

WZ-111 1-4: 25

AMX M4 51: 24

Conqueror: 27 + 1 = 28 Not sure I can say anything that hasn't been said before. This tank just works.

E75: 25 

Type 4 Heavy: 23 

AMX 30: 24

E50: 22

Skoda T50: 21

T95: 23 

Leopard PTA: 15

Object 430: 21

STRV 103-0: 21

Object 263: 20

WT Auf Pz. IV: 20

Object 704: 20

Tortoise: 20

Mauschen: 20

T30: 20 

50TP: 20

Standard B: 20

Centurion 7/1: 19 

M46 Patton: 20

B-C 25t AP: 18

Jagdtiger: 19

AMX 13 90: 17

ST-I: 17

Object 257: 17

WZ-132A: 17

WZ-120: 17

Object 705: 17

WZ-111G FT: 8

Conway: 8

RU 251:  8 

T54E1 : 9

Foch: 8

T-54 LW: 8

Type 61: 8

AMX 50 120: 8 - 3 = 5 Having played this and the other two eliminated tanks, I'd rather play the 4502B or the 430V2 than this thing.

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T-10: 31

T-54: 27

T49: 25 

WZ-111 1-4: 25

AMX M4 51: 24

Conqueror: 28

E75: 25 

Type 4 Heavy: 23 

AMX 30: 24

E50: 22

Skoda T50: 21

T95: 23 

Leopard PTA: 15

Object 430: 21+1 =22  Yeah no  good prem round but it's an enjoyable pub stomper. 

STRV 103-0: 21

Object 263: 20

WT Auf Pz. IV: 20

Object 704: 20

Tortoise: 20

Mauschen: 20

T30: 20 

50TP: 20

Standard B: 20

Centurion 7/1: 19 

M46 Patton: 20

B-C 25t AP: 18

Jagdtiger: 19

AMX 13 90: 17

ST-I: 17

Object 257: 17

WZ-132A: 17

WZ-120: 17

Object 705: 17

WZ-111G FT: 8

Conway: 8-3=5 Until this is dead I will vote for nothing else. You people are crazy if t54lwt goes before it. This thing is as bad on city maps while being much worse in the open. 

RU 251:  8 

T54E1 : 9

Foch: 8

T-54 LW: 8

Type 61: 8

AMX 50 120: 5

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Upvoting 30P and downvoting PTA... I’m about to give CarbonWard a call :kappa: 

 

PTA +1, the buffs to it are insane it’s so good now when vision matters again

WZ120 -3, does not excel in any area and is generally poor at being anything more than mediocre in most situations

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