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Elimination: Tier 9 - 2018

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T-10: 31
Conqueror: 29
T-54: 29
E75: 27
AMX 30: 25 +1=26
WZ-111 1-4: 25
AMX M4 51: 24
Type 4 Heavy: 23
T95: 23
Object 430: 24
T49: 22
E50: 22
Skoda T50:  22
Standard B: 22
STRV 103-0: 21
Tortoise: 18
Object 263: 21 
WT Auf Pz. IV: 20
Object 704: 20
Mauschen: 20
T30: 21
50TP: 20
M46 Patton: 20
Centurion 7/1: 19
Jagdtiger: 19
B-C 25t AP: 18
Leopard PTA: 17
AMX 13 90: 17
Object 257: 17
WZ-132A: 11
Object 705: 14   
ST-I: 14
WZ-120: 14
T-54 LW: 8
Type 61: 8
WZ-111G FT: 6
Foch: 5 
AMX 50 120: 5-3=2 

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T-10: 31
Conqueror: 29
T-54: 29
E75: 27
AMX 30: 26
WZ-111 1-4: 25
AMX M4 51: 24
Type 4 Heavy: 23
T95: 23
Object 430: 24
T49: 22
E50: 22
Skoda T50:  22
Standard B: 22+1=23 Considering how hard this thing is to ace (RW + 5,6k dmg was good enough for 1st class), it must be freaking good. 
STRV 103-0: 21
Tortoise: 18
Object 263: 21 
WT Auf Pz. IV: 20
Object 704: 20
Mauschen: 20
T30: 21
50TP: 20
M46 Patton: 20
Centurion 7/1: 19
Jagdtiger: 19
B-C 25t AP: 18
Leopard PTA: 17
AMX 13 90: 17
Object 257: 17
WZ-132A: 11
Object 705: 14   
ST-I: 14
WZ-120: 14
T-54 LW: 8
Type 61: 8
WZ-111G FT: 6
Foch: 5 
AMX 50 120: 2-3=-1 Bye bye. Granted I never played it after buffs, but there isn't a force in World, that could make me to play it ever again. I still have occasional nightmares about it.

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People forgot about this topic. I didn't

T-10: 31
Conqueror: 29
T-54: 29
E75: 27
AMX 30: 26
WZ-111 1-4: 25
AMX M4 51: 24
Type 4 Heavy: 23
T95: 23+1= 24 allows you to eat while playing, win and isn't arty. 
Object 430: 24
T49: 22
E50: 22
Skoda T50:  22
Standard B: 23
STRV 103-0: 21
Tortoise: 18
Object 263: 21 
WT Auf Pz. IV: 20
Object 704: 20
Mauschen: 20
T30: 21
50TP: 20
M46 Patton: 20
Centurion 7/1: 19
Jagdtiger: 19
B-C 25t AP: 18
Leopard PTA: 17
AMX 13 90: 17
Object 257: 17
WZ-132A: 11-3=8 You're a bad light. Go away.
Object 705: 14   
ST-I: 14
WZ-120: 14
T-54 LW: 8
Type 61: 8
WZ-111G FT: 6
Foch: 5 
 

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T-10: 31
Conqueror: 29
T-54: 29
E75: 27
AMX 30: 26 +1=27 Is good tenk.
WZ-111 1-4: 25
AMX M4 51: 24
Type 4 Heavy: 23
T95: 24
Object 430: 24
T49: 22
E50: 22
Skoda T50:  22
Standard B: 23
STRV 103-0: 21
Tortoise: 18
Object 263: 21 
WT Auf Pz. IV: 20
Object 704: 20
Mauschen: 20
T30: 21
50TP: 20
M46 Patton: 20
Centurion 7/1: 19
Jagdtiger: 19
B-C 25t AP: 18
Leopard PTA: 17
AMX 13 90: 17
Object 257: 17
WZ-132A: 8
Object 705: 14   
ST-I: 14
WZ-120: 14
T-54 LW: 8
Type 61: 8
WZ-111G FT: 6
Foch: 5 -3=2 How is this still here?
 

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T-10: 31
Conqueror: 29
T-54: 29
E75: 27
AMX 30: 27
WZ-111 1-4: 25
AMX M4 51: 24
Type 4 Heavy: 23
T95: 24 + 1 = 25 Maybe I'm a sicko, but I enjoy this thing.  Bouncing redonkulous damage while outtrading == amusement.  Good times, good times.
Object 430: 24
T49: 22
E50: 22
Skoda T50:  22
Standard B: 23
STRV 103-0: 21
Tortoise: 18
Object 263: 21 
WT Auf Pz. IV: 20
Object 704: 20
Mauschen: 20
T30: 21
50TP: 20
M46 Patton: 20
Centurion 7/1: 19
Jagdtiger: 19
B-C 25t AP: 18
Leopard PTA: 17
AMX 13 90: 17
Object 257: 17 - 3 = 14 Lacks HEAT, has a huge turret roof weakspot and a colossal LFP (and it sits up high, too), just not sure what this thing's role really is.  Why play it when T-10 exists?
WZ-132A: 8
Object 705: 14   
ST-I: 14
WZ-120: 14
T-54 LW: 8
Type 61: 8
WZ-111G FT: 6
Foch: 2

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T-10: 31
Conqueror: 29 + 1 = 30. Hands down the easiest tier 9 to carry in that I've played, was either this or the Standard B. Though the gun on mine does have an anomaly where every shot fired goes as low within the reticle as it possibly can, but never have I ever seen it go high.
T-54: 29
E75: 27
AMX 30: 27
WZ-111 1-4: 25
AMX M4 51: 24
Type 4 Heavy: 23
T95: 25
Object 430: 24
T49: 22
E50: 22
Skoda T50:  22
Standard B: 23
STRV 103-0: 21
Tortoise: 18
Object 263: 21 
WT Auf Pz. IV: 20
Object 704: 20
Mäuschen: 20
T30: 21
50TP: 20
M46 Patton: 20
Centurion 7/1: 19
Jagdtiger: 19
B-C 25t AP: 18
Leopard PTA: 17
AMX 13 90: 17
Object 257: 14
WZ-132A: 8
Object 705: 14   
ST-I: 14
WZ-120: 14 - 3 = 11. This tank is just dreadful to play, having all important modules behind the upper plate which is weak, as well as having a turret that isn't anything reliable. Couple this with the 3.2s aim time and -3° of gun depression, and you have to overexpose for an extremely long time to get a shot off that will inevitably miss anyway. Tank is useless on 80% of positions on every map thanks to gun depression.
T-54 LW: 8
Type 61: 8
WZ-111G FT: 6
Foch: 2

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T-10: 31
Conqueror:  30. 
T-54: 29
E75: 27  + 1 = 28, 3 marked this recently and it's just a good solid tank, prem spam is a bit annoying but you just have to aware of it (and honestly HE spam is more annoying) but you have armour, you are not super slow and you have 490 alpha with solid gun handling and accuracy. It's a good jack of all trades heavy. 
AMX 30: 27
WZ-111 1-4: 25
AMX M4 51: 24
Type 4 Heavy: 23
T95: 25
Object 430: 24
T49: 22
E50: 22
Skoda T50:  22
Standard B: 23
STRV 103-0: 21
Tortoise: 18
Object 263: 21 
WT Auf Pz. IV: 20
Object 704: 20
Mäuschen: 20
T30: 21
50TP: 20
M46 Patton: 20
Centurion 7/1: 19
Jagdtiger: 19
B-C 25t AP: 18
Leopard PTA: 17
AMX 13 90: 17
Object 257: 14
WZ-132A: 8 - 3 = 5 Agree with others, this is one of the worst lights I have played, pays far too much for having 320 alpha which is good for a light but nothing special, but of course WG logic says the tank has to be sh*t because you have good alpha for a light. 
Object 705: 14   
ST-I: 14
WZ-120:  11. 
T-54 LW: 8
Type 61: 8
WZ-111G FT: 6
Foch: 2

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IMO Conq and E75 are probably overrated because people are avoiding to have to vote for the same tanks twice.

T-10: 31
Conqueror:  30. 
T-54: 29
E75: 28
AMX 30: 27
WZ-111 1-4: 25+1=26: a better heavy heavium than the T-10 due to the alpha and upper plate. All things considered a 1111111 than runs food should be equal to the T-10 without.
AMX M4 51: 24
Type 4 Heavy: 23
T95: 25
Object 430: 24
T49: 22
E50: 22
Skoda T50:  22
Standard B: 23
STRV 103-0: 21
Tortoise: 18
Object 263: 21 
WT Auf Pz. IV: 20
Object 704: 20
Mäuschen: 20
T30: 21
50TP: 20
M46 Patton: 20
Centurion 7/1: 19
Jagdtiger: 19
B-C 25t AP: 18
Leopard PTA: 17
AMX 13 90: 17
Object 257: 14
WZ-132A: 5-3 = 2: worst of a bad class, and not particularly fast.
Object 705: 14   
ST-I: 14
WZ-120:  11. 
T-54 LW: 8
Type 61: 8
WZ-111G FT: 6
Foch: 2

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T-10: 31
Conqueror:  30. 
T-54: 29
E75: 28
AMX 30: 27
WZ-111 1-4: 26+1=27 - Ok I will start upvoting you now. Big gun, that actually hits things and doesn't have idioticly long reload on a tank that is now slow and has a strong turret? What else do you need? 
AMX M4 51: 24
Type 4 Heavy: 23
T95: 25
Object 430: 24
T49: 22
E50: 22
Skoda T50:  22
Standard B: 23
STRV 103-0: 21
Tortoise: 18
Object 263: 21 
WT Auf Pz. IV: 20
Object 704: 20
Mäuschen: 20
T30: 21
50TP: 20
M46 Patton: 20
Centurion 7/1: 19
Jagdtiger: 19
B-C 25t AP: 18
Leopard PTA: 17
AMX 13 90: 17
Object 257: 14
WZ-132A: 2-3=-1 - You are bad. Mediocre as a scout with a bad gun. 
Object 705: 14   
ST-I: 14
WZ-120:  11. 
T-54 LW: 8
Type 61: 8
WZ-111G FT: 6
Foch: 2

 

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T-10: 31

Conqueror:  30. 

T-54: 29

E75: 28

AMX 30: 27 + 1 = 28 Can confirm, gud tenk

WZ-111 1-4: 27

T95: 25

Object 430: 24

Type 4 Heavy: 23

Standard B: 23

T49: 22

E50: 22

Skoda T50:  22

STRV 103-0: 21

Object 263: 21 

T30: 21

WT Auf Pz. IV: 20

Object 704: 20

Mäuschen: 20

50TP: 20

M46 Patton: 20

Centurion 7/1: 19

Jagdtiger: 19

Tortoise: 18

B-C 25t AP: 18

Leopard PTA: 17

AMX 13 90: 17

Object 257: 14

Object 705: 14   

ST-I: 14

WZ-120:  11. 

T-54 LW: 8

Type 61: 8

WZ-111G FT: 6

Foch: 2 - 3 = -1 I am breaking my own rule of not up/downvoting the same tank multiple times till the very end to put Foch out of his misery. Bye bye, don't call.

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T-10: 31

Conqueror:  30. 

T-54: 29

E75: 28

AMX 30: 28

WZ-111 1-4: 27

T95: 25

Object 430: 24 + 1 = 25 Absolutely evil bully when top tier.  Solid gun with adequate accuracy, probably what the WZ-120 wishes it could be.  Also, it's a hell of a lot of fun to play.

Type 4 Heavy: 23

Standard B: 23

T49: 22

E50: 22

Skoda T50:  22

STRV 103-0: 21

Object 263: 21 

T30: 21

WT Auf Pz. IV: 20

Object 704: 20

Mäuschen: 20

50TP: 20

M46 Patton: 20

Centurion 7/1: 19

Jagdtiger: 19

Tortoise: 18

B-C 25t AP: 18

Leopard PTA: 17

AMX 13 90: 17

Object 257: 14 - 3 = 11 While there are likely objectively worse tanks left, I don't own any of them.

Object 705: 14   

ST-I: 14

WZ-120:  11. 

T-54 LW: 8

Type 61: 8

WZ-111G FT: 6

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12 hours ago, Tanager said:

 

Object 257: 14 - 3 = 11 While there are likely objectively worse tanks left, I don't own any of them.

 

Remember when people were afraid it would be OP?

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T-10: 31
Conqueror:  30. 
T-54: 30
E75: 28
AMX 30: 28
WZ-111 1-4: 27
AMX M4 51: 24
Type 4 Heavy: 23
T95: 25
Object 430: 25
T49: 22
E50: 22
Skoda T50:  22
Standard B: 23
STRV 103-0: 21
Tortoise: 18
Object 263: 21 
WT Auf Pz. IV: 20
Object 704: 20
Mäuschen: 20
T30: 21
50TP: 20
M46 Patton: 20 + 1 = 21 How to fuck can this tank be so low?
Centurion 7/1: 19
Jagdtiger: 19
B-C 25t AP: 18
Leopard PTA: 17
AMX 13 90: 17
Object 257: 11
Object 705: 11
ST-I: 14
WZ-120:  11 - 3 = 8 Terrible soft stats, terrible hard stats, terrible gun depression, nightmare to play.
T-54 LW: 8
Type 61: 8
WZ-111G FT: 6
 

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T-10: 31
Conqueror:  30. 
T-54: 30
E75: 28
AMX 30: 28
WZ-111 1-4: 27
AMX M4 51: 24
Type 4 Heavy: 23 -1 = 22 pleb tank with broken gun.
T95: 25
Object 430: 25
T49: 22
E50: 22
Skoda T50:  22 +1 = 23, fuck off Standard B, im the king.
Standard B: 23
STRV 103-0: 21
Tortoise: 18
Object 263: 21 
WT Auf Pz. IV: 20
Object 704: 20
Mäuschen: 20
T30: 21
M46 Patton: 21

50TP: 20

Centurion 7/1: 19
Jagdtiger: 19
B-C 25t AP: 18
Leopard PTA: 17
AMX 13 90: 17
Object 257: 11
Object 705: 11
ST-I: 14
WZ-120:  11 - 3 
T-54 LW: 8
Type 61: 8
WZ-111G FT: 6

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Type 4 should be at 20 points, you take off 3 points, not just 1.

Add that and my changes cus mobile lul

T-10: 31 + 1 = 32. Still pretty damn nice.

Object 705: 11 - 3 = 8. Basically VK B with russkie turret and bit better mobility but much worse guns and hull armor so it isnt any better, maybe worse, even, and VK B got kicked out first, so...die

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T-10: 32
Conqueror: 29
T-54: 29
E75: 27
AMX 30: 25 
WZ-111 1-4: 25
AMX M4 51: 24
Type 4 Heavy: 20
T95: 23
Object 430: 24+1=25 Just bounced 3 straight shots from a Grille in this thing 
T49: 22
E50: 22
Skoda T50:  22
Standard B: 22
STRV 103-0: 21
Tortoise: 18
Object 263: 21 
WT Auf Pz. IV: 20
Object 704: 20
Mauschen: 20
T30:  21
50TP: 20
M46 Patton: 20
Centurion 7/1: 19
Jagdtiger: 19
B-C 25t AP: 18
Leopard PTA: 17
AMX 13 90: 17
Object 257: 17
WZ-132A: 11
Object 705: 11   
ST-I: 14
WZ-120: 14
T-54 LW: 8
Type 61: 8
WZ-111G FT: 6
Foch: 5 
AMX 50 120: 5 -3 = 2 Interclip is so bad its not really a 4 shot autoloader, its a 2 shot autoloader twice, next to the racehorse 50B, this thing is the donkey Eyeore

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7 hours ago, Hellsfog said:

Remember when people were afraid it would be OP?

It's still broken as balls and bad for the game. It's just not op

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29 minutes ago, hazzgar said:

It's still broken as balls and bad for the game. It's just not op

You're going to need to explain that: Broken and bad for the game but not Op. I'm being fully serious. Those two opinions appear to be mutually exclusive. 

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4 hours ago, Hellsfog said:

You're going to need to explain that: Broken and bad for the game but not Op. I'm being fully serious. Those two opinions appear to be mutually exclusive. 

I dont know anything about the 257, but they aren't mutually exclusive. There's other ways for vehicles to be broken than to win too much. There's an entire class devoted to being broken but not OP.

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1 hour ago, Rexxie said:

I dont know anything about the 257, but they aren't mutually exclusive. There's other ways for vehicles to be broken than to win too much. There's an entire class devoted to being broken but not OP.

That's true about arty but in the context of this tank, I'm not sure what he means.

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Broken=/=Overpowered.

 

A broken tank is a tank that has an aspect or two that is complete bullshit, but doesn't make the tank objectively overpowered. The side armor of the 257 is just that, it is broken in the sense that you have to hit the small strip at the top if you want to penetrate it, unless you have a 150mm+ and can overmatch. It doesn't however, make the tank overpowered as it is more of a gimmick. Equal and higher tier tanks can butter the 257, but tanks that can not, like most tier 8's and all tier 7's excluding the Sturer Emil that have to get to the sides to penetrate it, but guess what? They can unless they are at very close range or get luck with their accuracy RNG.

 

Think of the two 183's, they're 'balanced' but their HESH shells are completely broken in every way, they aren't overpowered, but they are still a bullshit vehicle and not exactly good for the health of the game nonetheless.

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I don't agree that the gimmick makes the 257 broken in the same way that arty or ultra-high alpha td's are broken but I see what you are saying. It's hardly the only tank with armor that is strong to lower tiers but weak to same or higher.  

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14 hours ago, Hellsfog said:

Remember when people were afraid it would be OP?

That's because they nerfed the fuck out of it. Front and sides were nerfed so that it could actually be overmatched and the front could be easily penned by most things. 

 

T-10: 32
Conqueror: 29
T-54: 29
E75: 27
AMX 30: 25 
WZ-111 1-4: 25
AMX M4 51: 24
Type 4 Heavy: 20
T95: 23
Object 430: 25 
T49: 22
E50: 22
Skoda T50:  22
Standard B: 22
STRV 103-0: 21
Tortoise: 18
Object 263: 21 
WT Auf Pz. IV: 20
Object 704: 20
Mauschen: 20
T30:  21
50TP: 20
M46 Patton: 20

Centurion 7/1: 19 + 1 = 20  How this thing is below the M46 is a clear indication no one has actually played it since it was buffed. It is objectively better than the M46 in almost every way. More pen in standard than the M46 has in gold, better base acc, better turret armour and they fulfil the exact same role. Also HESH memes if you are going for big numbers. Patton is still good but 7/1 is better in the current meta. 
Jagdtiger: 19
B-C 25t AP: 18
Leopard PTA: 17
AMX 13 90: 17
Object 257: 17
WZ-132A: 11
Object 705: 11   
ST-I: 14
WZ-120: 14
T-54 LW: 8
Type 61: 8
WZ-111G FT: 6
Foch: 5 

AMX 50 120: 2 - 3 = -1 Dead tank is dead.

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2 hours ago, Hellsfog said:

I don't agree that the gimmick makes the 257 broken in the same way that arty or ultra-high alpha td's are broken but I see what you are saying. It's hardly the only tank with armor that is strong to lower tiers but weak to same or higher.  

From the perspective of lower tiers, normal retarded tanks can at times be countered by smart plays, i.e. flanking. The 257 can only really be countered by retarded plays, that is to say, spamming gold at its front.

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