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AMX M4 mle. 45

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3 hours ago, leggasiini said:

Rebought it for upcoming 2nd HT line

lol its trash

Played 5 battles with 90mm until i switched for 105mm and almost full APCR spam. I rather have expensive but enjoyable grind than cheaper but utterly self-torturing and suicidal grind.

Even with the 105mm and full APCR, I still would stop far short of calling the grind enjoyable...

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I'm playing this again because I kinda wanted something to grind and maybe the new French heavy line will actually get released. In some regards it is what I remember - a mediocre tank that isn't terrible but is entirely forgettable. I'm running with the 105mm and plenty of APCR this time around. The gun handling is pretty trash with a slow aim time. Dealing with IS-3/6s is a huge pain because 223 pen is not reliable against them so you're forced to sit there and aim your shots a little better.

It does seem to take a lot of module damage. In just a handful of games I've been double ammo racked in two games and had my gunner killed twice in a row another game.

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I've also started grinding it in anticipation of the 2nd French HT line, and it's been a mixed bag. It prints WN8 (as far as I can tell) and if left alone you can really rack up the damage with some liberal APCR spam, but it's not a carry tank at all. Perhaps the most challenging thing about it is making sure you are shooting distracted/weaker enemies.

I'd agree that it suffers from a lot of module damage, the ammorack seems to be everywhere on this tank. On the other hand, I've gotten into a lot of tier 7 matches in this thing where its weaknesses aren't quite as magnified and 165 pen can suffice for a lot of targets.

The most aggravating aspect of the tank is the top speed. It wouldn't go faster than 42kph going down the hill on Himmelsdorf. I'm pretty sure the Maus can do better than that....

 

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My initial impressions of this tank were that it was terrible. After around 50 games, I don't think it's *that* great but it's certainly exceeding my expectations. With apcr the 105 is a very good damage dealer - 330 alpha with a reload under 8 seconds and over 220 pen is quite fearsome at tier 7. People don't take it seriously because public opinion of it is so awful (which is kinda justified - aside from the decent gun, it's slow and isn't well-armored). 

Also it prints Radley-Walters, 50 games in I already have two of them. 

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So I got this back for the french heavy line.  I used the  top 90 mm when I played it last, I think, because the increased pen was better at dealing with higher tiers.  Is the consensus now to use the 105?  I seem to recall this could see tier 10's when it was introduced but I'm fuzzy on that fact. 

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It could see 10s back when it was introduced; but even then, the 105 was the far better choice; while the 90 was a newbie trap. The 90mm has been buffed since that time, while the 105 remain unchanged.

 

Currently, while the 105 struggles with superheavies; it is a lol broken weapon against everything else with liberal prem ammo usage.

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You're right the 105 with gold spam is pretty good, as long as you aren't trying to manfight heavily armored tanks.  I don't think anyone expects the 330 alpha. 

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High roll around 413 compared to 375. I had a couple 398-400 hits which provoked some satisfying complaints.

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Any idea what the expected xp costs for the new tier 8 will be? I'm at about 88k on the M4 45, but I suspect it will be much higher so WG can capitalize off those who convert free xp w/ gold...

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Most tier 8's in the french line are in the area of 80K xp but I think it depends on the cost to elite the tier 7.  I think 80K-100K is a safe bet. 

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On 11/12/2017 at 1:57 PM, FavreFan4ever said:

Any idea what the expected xp costs for the new tier 8 will be? I'm at about 88k on the M4 45, but I suspect it will be much higher so WG can capitalize off those who convert free xp w/ gold...

The cost on the test servers has been a surprisingly cheap 62,500, but I have no idea whether they're going to change it on live. 

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So I'm griding this tank with the 105mm gun and it's not so bad as I though. Apart from the awful aim time and handling, missing fully aimed shots quite too often for my taste.

Do you recomened to unlock the top engine or skip it? With the second one, I have 100 HP less compared to fully upgraded tank. But it also means that I don't need to grind as many games with this thing if I skip it.
 
Also, so far I'm using the stock turret as well. The other one has better view range and side armor but it's much havier so I wonder if it makes the tank even more sluggish then.
(I would need to unlock the tracks as well then).

 

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31 minutes ago, MatzerMike said:

So I'm griding this tank with the 105mm gun and it's not so bad as I though. Apart from the awful aim time and handling, missing fully aimed shots quite too often for my taste.

Do you recomened to unlock the top engine or skip it? With the second one, I have 100 HP less compared to fully upgraded tank. But it also means that I don't need to grind as many games with this thing if I skip it.
 
Also, so far I'm using the stock turret as well. The other one has better view range and side armor but it's much havier so I wonder if it makes the tank even more sluggish then.
(I would need to unlock the tracks as well then).

 

Just free xp this pos

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2 hours ago, MatzerMike said:

So I'm griding this tank with the 105mm gun and it's not so bad as I though. Apart from the awful aim time and handling, missing fully aimed shots quite too often for my taste.

Do you recomened to unlock the top engine or skip it? With the second one, I have 100 HP less compared to fully upgraded tank. But it also means that I don't need to grind as many games with this thing if I skip it.
 
Also, so far I'm using the stock turret as well. The other one has better view range and side armor but it's much havier so I wonder if it makes the tank even more sluggish then.
(I would need to unlock the tracks as well then).

So you are bascially playing the tank with stock tracks and engine ? May god almighty have mercy on your soul ! 

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Top engine is used on the 50 100, if that's something you're interested in. I can't remember form the test server if the AMX 65t uses it as well.

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On 12/11/2017 at 11:56 AM, FavreFan4ever said:

Top engine is used on the 50 100, if that's something you're interested in. I can't remember form the test server if the AMX 65t uses it as well.

The 65t does in fact use the top engine. It's the top engine on the M4 45 and 50 100 and the second of three engines on the 65t and M4 51. 

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Am playing the M4 45 again to get the XP for the *shudders* 65t, I'm having way more fun that what I remembered. Possibly because *nobody* expects you do do *anything* Plus, with a mere 15ish % holidays bonnus I manage to turn a decent profit despite APCRing like a petite femme de Pigalle.

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I'm doing the same.  Maybe it's just me, but I kinda like this tank a little bit...

 

It could also be the hot French girls driving it, however.

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I haven't played this tank for four years, and this game for a full year now, and I kinda want to play the new French HTs.

 

 

However I have a discount for Tier VII sitting idle, it's either this one or the mighty Chi-Ri.

 

Oh boi, guess I'll play either one of them for a couple of rounds and end up taking another year-long break :facepalm:

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20 hours ago, Torenico said:

I haven't played this tank for four years, and this game for a full year now, and I kinda want to play the new French HTs.

 

 

However I have a discount for Tier VII sitting idle, it's either this one or the mighty Chi-Ri.

 

Oh boi, guess I'll play either one of them for a couple of rounds and end up taking another year-long break :facepalm:

Until the end of the year you can ticket back previously sold tanks at sale price.

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