Worstpoaster_na

Why is the E4 So Mediocere?

37 posts in this topic

So I got a e4, played 10 games in it, did decently. (3.5k dpg 2kills/battle)

 

however this feels like a shitty e3 in every way.

 

Gun is remarkably inferior to the e3s, the bloom feels twice as worse.

It's not even much faster and feels just as sluggish as the e3.

 

Armor is completely useless at close range. You can't expect to bounce anything.

 

So the general consensus is that it's a all around tank ala e5 with a 750 dmg gun, but why play that when you can have a e3 (outtank/trade anyone) or a waffle/268 (tds that are actually good at sniping)

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I will confess I found it to be the same and moved my crew back to the T30, but I chalked it up to just me being too potato to play the E4 properly...but now that you feel the same way... :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Gun depression is fucking terrible too.

 

There have been many games where my platoon mates, go if you weren't in the e3 (tanking 20k+ potential) or waifutrager (retarded burst) we would have lost.

I don't think there is one situation where you can go, wow if you weren't in a e4 we would have lost.

 

 

Turret.

 

And 3.5k is not good in a tier 10 TD at this patch, scrub.

0 apcr, because I have literally 20k credits left after buying e4.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So the general consensus is that it's a all around tank ala e5 with a 750 dmg gun, but why play that when you can have a e3 (outtank/trade anyone) or a waffle/268 (tds that are actually good at sniping)

Because its nice to go faster than 18 kph and to have a turret.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Because its inferior to the E100 in every way apart from the fact that it has APCR instead of HEAT and slightly better dpm.
 

Want a good TD? Get an E100.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There have been many games where my platoon mates, go if you weren't in the e3 (tanking 20k+ potential) or waifutrager (retarded burst) we would have lost.

I don't think there is one situation where you can go, wow if you weren't in a e4 we would have lost.

 

This is an interesting point of view.

 

Some tanks truly excel at something, but many do not, to varying extents. From the 183 that can one shot a batchat, to the waffle, to the mobility/spike/scouting offered by a batchat, there are some tanks at tier 10 that can do something so much better than every other tank in the game that you will encounter situations where yes, you would have lost without the Waffle, or the E3.

 

And the E4 isn't one of those tanks. It is more of an all-rounder.

 

The armor isn't made of paper, but it's not great by any means. The gun is punchier than any heavy gun, but the tank is also slower than the faster heavies too.

 

So its niche is the non-autoloader TD with a turret.

 

In pub matches, this means there will almost always be another tank that is better suited to the situation that you're in, be it sniping, bullying, or something with more speed.

 

But it will also be better than those more specialist tanks in situations where they are inferior. So it's probably workable in almost all situations, rather than being great in some and bad on others. It may be a bit worse overall than the specialists, but it does offer a level of flexibility that you don't get with the non-turreted TDs.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

its a crap tank fullstop, it lost its alpha , i was looking forward to getting one untill the td nerfs, same as the 268 why get one when you can play a isu and do the same damage? i think up to the t30 is the way to go. the jpz and 183 are making a comeback,

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

the problem with the E4 was the 7.5 version was super OP for good players, then they nerfed the crap out of it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Because its inferior to the E100 in every way apart from the fact that it has APCR instead of HEAT and slightly better dpm.

 

Want a good TD? Get an E100.

Pretty much this.

An E4 with actual strengths is the E100, especially now that the 100 alpha difference is sliced away. 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't have the E4, but I think it needs more depression. 6 degrees of depression is a damn joke for an American top tier tank, or hell, an American tank in general.

 

And it must feel insulting for some people to get a godly 10 degrees of depression on the T28 Proto and T30 and then suddenly "lol no moar American depression for you".

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Now for the next tier 10, I will get a 113 instead of an is7

 

why?
 

dunno I must be a connoisseur of all the bad tanks in the game.

 

Seriously evertime I play the e4 I go I FUCKING WISH I WAS A E3 RIGHT NOW or I WISH I WAS A WAFFLE RIGHT NOW

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

x/10 how bad is 113?
 

I know one unicum that actually really likes his, 3.3k dpg in it and says its a lot of fun.

 

I liked the is4 a lot.

 

I also had the 57 unlocked for almost a year now, but fuck buying that when you can get REAL GOOD tanks like the 113 and is7.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Now for the next tier 10, I will get a 113 instead of an is7

 

why?

 

dunno I must be a connoisseur of all the bad tanks in the game.

 

Seriously evertime I play the e4 I go I FUCKING WISH I WAS A E3 RIGHT NOW or I WISH I WAS A WAFFLE RIGHT NOW

Do it, 113 is great. It wrecks mediums in CW (when used in packs or in a specific role), being the fastest armoured heavy (50B doesnt count since it has no armor) and having a UFP+turret that gets more than decent bounces, espc. against med tanks. 113 HP/ton is crazy good

 

 

I don't have the E4, but I think it needs more depression. 6 degrees of depression is a damn joke for an American top tier tank, or hell, an American tank in general.

It used to have this(-8 depression IIRC) + insane frontal turret armor, and it was the go-to tank for CW with a virtual monopoly/1st preference and made the E5 (and all other heavies) virtually redundant until they nerfed depression, bloom, dpm and armor.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

113 is great.  love mine.  it just has no room for error, and will punish you for mistakes.  but it's still better than the fatton though.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Its a more mobile, slightly better gun'd IS-7 without the side armor, turret armor, and somehow less gun depression. The mobility is decent but marred with mediocre terrain resist, and while the hull armor is better when angled well and the lower glacis hidden, the fact the turret is so much weaker, it cant sidescrape half as well, and any kind of elevation advantage turns your tank into paper means even that isn't worth your disabilities.

 

I only got 3.1k not 3.3, but damn that was one mediocre and disappointing buy.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

E100 gun is not at all similar to the E4's gun.

 

Have you tried sniping moving targets with E100's super slow HEAT round? It's probably one of the slowest shells in tier 10. Now compare that to E4's APCR.

 

E4 is like playing E5 but with half the exposure time, and a far superior gold round. Tho this patch did hurt it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

E100 gun is not at all similar to the E4's gun.

 

Have you tried sniping moving targets with E100's super slow HEAT round? It's probably one of the slowest shells in tier 10. Now compare that to E4's APCR.

 

E4 is like playing E5 but with half the exposure time, and a far superior gold round. Tho this patch did hurt it.

Yes that is why I mentioned the E4 having the upper hand on the APCR side of things, but what we (or at least I am) are saying is that 99% of the time you would rather be in an E100. 

 

Also, why do you say its like the E5?

The E5:

- Mobile

- Has great gun handling

- Short reload low alpha DPM gun

- Has good gun depression

 

The E4:

- Much slower than an E5

- Pretty average gun handling

- Long reload large alpha gun

- Crap gun depression

 

As far as I can tell, the E4 is closer to an E100's playstyle than the E5's. I'm curios as to why you say its like an E5? :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

For your next Tier 10, get an O263. You will learn just how awesome a pea-shooter, 80mm of side armour and an open-top is at tier 10...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.