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You and your fucking zero key.

The thing is you are not punished at all for not using double shot. So no matter how you look at it, the double shot is still an advantage. Not a huge one but still an advantage. Plus there are clear situations where the double shot makes sense and works. Sorry but this is wrong on 2 accounts: 1. This is not an autoloader but an auto reloader. Big difference, smaller drawbacks for shooting 1 time 2. It is useful when enemies are attacking you and are on 1 shot hp or just go for you in regular time intervals. This happens more often than most people care to admit because the current meta is idiot plays. Again you miss the key factor. You have 3 distinct firing modes. The tank is still highly capable in single shot mode. The autoreloader and 2 shots are situational but useful in those specific situations. (also I remember how people undervalued italian autoreloaders when they were released first). Only 2 heavy tanks in tier has actually amazing armor (VK1001p and Defender) and one gets punished for that by being slow as shit and huge. It's armor also scales badly when fighting higher tiers while 703 still has a turret that works with wiggling and moving due to typical russian angles. Defender is better but the gun is more derpy. 240 pen is not autopen. It's not a flat turret face so that armor still maximizes your survival. You also omit the sides are rather strong. Not strong against high pen guns but will lower the angle from which you can be shot, especially by meds and lights. Oh come on. Now I know you are just pulling stuff out of your ass. Let's look at t8 heavies and their pen values (and I will not use pref mm tanks so you have it easier): Heavies With Higher Pen: T34 50 100 Liberte Caern AX E75TS IS3 KV4 Lowe Renegade Defender Patriot Somua Tiger II VK4501 Same Pen: IS3A Heavies with Lower Pen: 110 50TP Prot 53TP Amx 65T Chrystler K Emil 1951 Emil I IS-M Caern O-Ho T32 VK1001p Mauerbrecher VK4502a That gives you 14 tanks with more pen. 1 tanks with same pen. 13 tanks with less pen. Not including pref MM tanks. So being exactly in the middle. Having standard pen for this tier heavy is "lacklustre"? Tajj you are a good player and somehow your asessment of this tank is "this isn't a high dpm, fast and accurate sniper tank". FFS. Yeah the acc is trash but the bloom is great. Ie the same what makes IS3 so good. Complaining about the gun here is nonsense and it makes me think someone has hacked your account. Let's compare the guns. 703 is better in: 120 more DPM 150 more mp/s shell velocity 12 more shells (28 shells in IS3 mean you sometimes run low on preffered ammo) 0.08 better movement bloom 0.08 traverse bloom 0.02 better turret bloom (and IS3 is praised for its super low bloom) IS3 is better in: 4 mm of pen 0.1s aim time 0.04 dispersion (the only big one but imho part of it is offset by shell speed) So saying the gun is lacklustre when it's comparable if not better to the best heavy gun in tier is silly. Also most of your criticism could be aimed at the IS3. Seriously the same logic was first used when people said obj 430U won't be that OP. So is it for a ton of other Ruskie heavies that have dominated the meta over the years. Again it's not a snipy tank. Meh yes, poor ? No. Not poor enough for workable armor and a great gun. Yeah good brawling is useless in t8. Stop getting so focused on the double shot. The double shot is an extra feature you can use when you know it's useful. Renegade gets better results from unis because it's better in early damage and late game damage. You make a common wotlabs mistake of underestimating tanks which are super useful in key moments of the battle and ones that fall short on cleanup damage. Also I looked and pretty much all streamers posted multiple 5.5k+ games in their 703's. Also Renegade is not OP because it only works for Blues and up. 703 works for everyone. LOL. I mean lol. You say the gun on this is derpy and then you compare it to a defender. Same acc, barely better aimtime and 2x the bloom... You say the tank is huge and slow when VK1001p is slower, bigger, it armor scales worse against higher tiers and it has 2.5x worse bloom. 53TP is funny since it's a heavium and it's hard to compare. But you mentioning Caern shows me really what you did here. You think a good tank that doesn't have one completely broken off the wall feature (1001p/defender) has to be an accurate, high dpm, high vision tank. So the tank is still OP. It just doesn't suit your preferences. Dude. The tank has the best bloom in tier. BEST FFS. Even as a single shot this would be a good tank.

http://wotreplays.eu/site/5186505#karelia-meows_really_heckin-churchill_gun_carrier Do not cite the deep magic to me, witch. I was there when it was written. over half blind btw http://wotreplays.eu/site/5186508#widepark-meows_really_heckin-churchill_gun_carrier

we did it reddit

Not quite meows level bc fap casters but good to see SUX represent http://wotreplays.eu/site/5188659#mines-enroh-churchill_gun_carrier

The HE rework will render my T49 useless, so I'm in the "fuck that noise" camp.

@sohojacques Because God hates the Curchill GC. It is truly a God forsaken tank.

Here is my FIRST ever game in this thing.... http://wotreplays.eu/site/5181852#serene_coast-enroh-churchill_gun_carrier

@tajj7 think of it differently. Would a 112 with more pen, better bloom and 5s autoreloader and 2 shot feature be op? Or IS3 with better bloom, 2 guns/autoreloader and better hull armor but 2hp/t less be op? Imagine the reaction to those buffs.

The double shot might be situational, but it's another weapon in the arsenal. I use it rarely, but occasionally blapping someone for 780 is a perk for sure. Arguing it isn't is weird, nobody forces anyone to use it, overusing it is just gambling I suppose, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Your argument against it being a powerful tool mostly seems to revolve around people not knowing how and when to use it. Comparing the auto-reloader feature, shooting the second barrel after 5 seconds, to the 155 is a massively flawed argument. It very frequently allows you to trade 2 for 1 against enemies you push on. The 155 has a massive reload, no turret and is a tier 10. It's not a helpful comparison at all. The armor is certainly not shellproof, but it bounces a fair bit, allows for sidescraping and hull-down play. Just good Rusky armor and a lower plate that bounces the occasional shot when angled heavily so you can push our a corner and bait shots. When discussing the gun you didn't mention the awesome soft stats. I rarely aim for anything since the aim circle is so small to begin with. This is a snapshot king, that's part of what makes it a veeeery comfortable ride, probably OP.

But does any of this stuff require changing? Derps are annoying at high tiers but HE is far from the top of my list for things that need working on. I'd much rather see armor/penetration creep rebalanced, not hp pools and HE mechanics.

I would like all the gold I spent on radio operators back and them to leave the KV-2 the fuck alone. I assume neither will happen however.

Who else isn't thrilled about these proposed changes? Seems like WG is changing a lot of variables at the same time and that's never a recipe for success, specifically the hp changes. I'm also not a huge fan of WoWS's crew skill style- although I admit WoT could use a redesign of current skills.

Don't really care much for studzianki as a map but dat witcher music tho

Sure, I can fix that.

Current 1/6/20 Vstab vs vents chat. staring me as clueless noob/devils advocate obvious commentary on chart is obvious

This period at the end and after the xmas boosters is full premium spam, it's premium ammo span city at the moment, you basically have to assume everyone is spamming it. I mean I am playing tier 9 tanks with food, using premium ammo and still making like 100k profits. The 3 arty is just a thing, it always goes in these cycles, WG nerf arty, arty bobs over react and say its terrible, turns out its not, all the arty bobs start clicking again and annoying people, added to all the people doing their missions. For it to drop down we need the next minor arty nerf, and we'll have a nice period with far less of them in the game.

after a bit of frustration and jumping back and fourth i managed to get this done almost gave up on it because pubbies treat the tank like its the second coming of the Chieftain, and as such yolo/focus you like crazy.

I'm back weaker and more disgusting.

I think this belong here as well

Time to revive this thread:

Who said he's playing his own accounts? Did you not know, we're all Carbonward's account?

Dude Garbad played very long time ago where meta and everything was different and pulling 4k was like pulling 5k now. Also there are many non rerolls who pull 5k dpg. Decha can. Not to mention rerolling has nothing to do with your 100 battle dpg session. Also we take your opinions as a shitter because you speak like a shitter. Objectively you have better stats than me. I hover below 3k dpg in my t10s. Usually 2600-3000. Yeah I could blame it on playing min settings on a shitty laptop and unstable connection but I won't. I just don't post opinions that are illogical. That doesn't even have to be related to your in game performance. Your arguments don't make sense from a data analysis standpoint either. So it doesn't matter if you look at what you say from a point of view of best players or from the pov of someone who has years of real life experience of using data to actually predict real life events and do it well. So maybe just stop, listen to others, learn instead of agressively defending your opinions despite the fact that literally everyone on the forums here tells you you are wrong. I mean seriously. I'm an elite school asshole, without any parenting and an ego the size of Texas and I'd still think twice about my opinions if 100% of an elite community in a given topic told me I'm wrong. I mean seriously. This is simple logic. Low sample size. Skill isn't afraid to correct his opinions. Tbh I expected him to change his mind as that tank should be ok for his playstyle. Not perfect but he should make it work. I pulled 2000+ DPG in a pre buff VK4502a (aah the days where bad tank camo was way more common) not using any gold and with a 1.5 skill crew. I think I will join the Spactacus like "I'm Garbad" crowd.

Remember that Type 64 stats have to continually contend with pre-LT changes, where it met higher tiers. People nowdays have them with very high DPG like 1.5K, which just wasn't common at all seeing tier 9, or even Xs before that. Now, it is extremely strong, though it per se didn't receive buffs, everything around it was significantly nerfed. 59-16 has a powerful gun, for a light tank. Like AMX12T, it is quite ahead in firepower compared to T21, VK, MT25, T37. And unlike 12T, is worlds ahead in DPM. The problems with this thing, are low view range compared to VK or T21, and the very low shell velocity. Shell velocity even with APCR is mediocre

lf artillery changes hit, are you going to use the higher damage ammunition, or use the stun+dmg rounds? I seek professional advice.

I wish I could like Emil51 more, I really do. But it has significant drawbacks. Despite having better mobility than Emil, they didn't provide it Emil top speed. Didn't provide it Emil LFP either, it takes damage way easier. The acc + disp are pretty sad face compared to Emil, and its down 15O DPM too....No idea why it wasn't buffed in relation to Swede heavy tank re-work. In the tier....getting side armour over-matched by 12O+ sucks pretty bad, and the APCR pen just makes it seem dreadful at times. Bump up the R0F to 5.6, give it 125 LFP, increase the accuracy to .38 and dispersion to .24/.24 and I think its solid after

okay, a tad about some history first. My first CW reward was IS5, with Fusion. I got T95E6 with Thugz, as my first T X Reward. Selected 121B as my second, a part of Supernova. Selected obj907 for my third, being a part of Pingu. Lastly, just purchased M60 with bonds from the store. I am debating whether or not I want to take part in D of I, as I won't be able to take part in all of it. I leave for work on the 23rd, nor am I in a super duper hipper turbo clan, so I'd be stuck. The remaining driving factors to sway me, are of course bonds and being able to assemble either Kreslavsky or Chieftain. But enough of that, every campaign I have been part of had different directional meta-game tank usage, so I'm just out to predict D of I. Star-Road, God tier: obj 260, Chieftain, 279E, obj 430U, obj 907, EBR105, GC Every tank here is self explanatory. Gold cup, Tier 1: Super Conq, WZ5A, obj 277, IS7, VK72, bat chat, UDES, obj 140, T-100LT, Strv, T110E3, obj 268V4, M53/M55 Pretty much the strong tanks acting as filler and subs in tank locking, or clans without lineups of CW rewards. Nevertheless still good stuff. VK72 the new replacement for derper Type 5, with the added attacking ability because of 35Omm HEAT. TDs seem to continue to fall and fall in usage because speed is so important, so the good ones appear here. Russian light is a great backup, and works. M53/M55 though a great arty, just can't seem to deal enough damage to be God tiered Silver cup, Tier 2: Kran, T57, Maus, T110E4, K-91, Leo, AMX13105, obj 261 Mediocre stuff that is passable. or extremely situational, like Maus for sponging or T57 for close range DPM. Kran doesn't have suitable HEAT, so its here. E4 for those close range maps where people want to use it as pseudo-heavy, and it can still do the old Type 5 dirty ass HE'ing. Sniper schnitzel pseudo-TD meds as well. Thought about placing TVP here, but does anyone TVP anymore? STB1 despite the buffs, is just what I think is an UDES that sucks. obj 261 can still work as arty, though the low ammo count and damage, oooofffff Everything else is trash. 121B could have been good with its buffs, but the DPM and top speed are just too low. T62A is a bad 140, itself a poorer 907. 113 is a bad 430U, lol at the people that thought it would rival WZ. T110E5 is a bad Conqueror. AMX30 a bad Leo. 705 a bad VK72. 60TP is over rated, I'd never take this thing over VK72 or E4. Don't think progetto or TVP have what it takes for CW, though excellent in pubs. Type 5 is trash now and rightfully so, WG best decision ever. Badger sucks, really did it ever amount to anything with all its prior hype? Panzer wagon used to do exotic route blocking strategies on Mines/Karelia hill, but with EBR that doesn't work anymore. Feel free to chime in if I left anything out. And before people want to cry foul about hulldown STB1 or M48A2 or Cent AX - believe me UDES replaces all of them Your autism has been proofread and fixed. -H