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This tank was way overhyped

You misunderstood me. I'm saying it should, not that it will be. It should be 250+ not 220. 

It's clear you never worked in a large company if you think it's impossible for an entire department to be run by idiots. Using your logic Kodak had run its company to the ground on purpose resisting the technology of digital cameras they invented on their own, Nokia resisted going with Android. You are very naive. You are in for a harsh reality check unless you are very lucky in life or have a very specific job. Most people are either bad at their jobs or unmotivated, many competent people at big companies are not listened too if there is an incompetent person leading a team. 
 
Also if a company contineously makes the same mistakes, over and over then they are idiots. Also obj 268v4 is broken even in non corrior map meta. It's less broken but it's still 10x better than every other TD out there, better than most heavies and quite a few meds.

What an idiot. This guy was supposed to be a good player? What good player uses his type5 vs t54 argument? You balance tanks only for their 1 vs 1 capability? That would explain why they keep buffing heavies. Heavies when isolated lose to meds and lights so "keep buffing comrade, werld is not idel we need to make buffs and then bleme mep"
 
Also on him thinking a faster than meds e3 was not OP because you could pen its sides (but lower tier tanks can't...). 
 
I'm sure he used this to look better since so many people hate him but then if he failed at that miserably by supporting the most hated decisions WG made. 

So I have to play better in the tanks I want to exp to get more exp since I don't have 3+ tanks I'm exping at t8.

No prob. It's the internet. It was made for miscommunication.

No prob. It's the internet. It was made for miscommunication.

If simply giving the Progetto tier 8 premium the autoreloader can turn it from a good single shot medium tank into the best tank at tier 8, giving the Progetto tier 10 an autoreloader will turn it from a meh single shot medium tank to a very good tier 10 medium tank, even in its current form.

The autoreloader mechanic is very, very, very good. Not only does it give you damage dealing potential, it gives you carry potential due to the flexibility, which is huge for a paper 65 km/h medium tank. I 3 marked the Progetto mod 46 with these stats and I've also played the Progetto tier 10 on the test server. 4k DPG seems like it's going to be quite easy.
The biggest problem is that right now, only the very best players can make the most of the mechanic, but even in their hands, it's not as effective as a 430U. There is not a single other mechanic in the game that is designed to scale with skill as much as this. Make this the best medium in the game for the best players, but the worst in the game for the worst players. How?
1. Make the reloads of the first shots in the magazine shorter but the reloads of the last shots longer. The last shots are supposed to be either a last resort or a voluntary disengager. Discourage using them, while boosting the most common engagement type, two shot bursts. For example, 9/10/15/18 would be interesting and follow the Tier 8 Progetto's pattern, which is 8/9/12. This rewards slightly planning a minute ahead, rewards greatly map awareness, since one might unload the full magazine before switching flanks or retreating, and rewards massively controlling engagements.
That is it. That is literally it. The gun stats in the current iteration are good, better than the Centurion AX's. The mobility is excellent, on par with the AMX 30B. It has no armour, but it needs no armour if you control the engagement since it has gun depression. It has shell velocity and very good penetration. It has everything you need to excel and excel a lot, but it has no safety net. If you fuck up in this tank, you fuck up. You'll be left with a 16 second reload for 360 alpha. Don't fuck up. Everything is up to you.

Yeah nah the autoreloader mechanic is nothing like a single shot tank. It's more like a two shot burst tank with the option to fire all the shots if needed. Not very often are you actually going to fire just a single shell and if you do, it's only once before waiting for that short reload and then dumping the rest. For single shot tanks, the quality of the engagement doesn't really matter. If you have a 6.5 second reload, it doesn't matter if the enemy is exposed for 0.5 seconds or for 3.5 seconds. With this tank, if the driver is good, you can dictate the battle and improve the quality of the engagement, just like an autoloader without the down time unless you, the driver, calculate to go through that down time.
So yeah, this tank is pretty good. It's definitely not the best tier 10 medium but in the hands of a good player, it has a lot of potential and a very high skill ceiling.

Don't worry they will make the tech tree shit so people won't buy it for the same reason they didn't the WZ TD.
 
Also I had a talk with some guy who camped all game and he claimed "he had a small gun so he had to camp". It was a t8 top 3/5/7 game. So see? The tank is weak.

Don't worry they will make the tech tree shit so people won't buy it for the same reason they didn't the WZ TD.
 
Also I had a talk with some guy who camped all game and he claimed "he had a small gun so he had to camp". It was a t8 top 3/5/7 game. So see? The tank is weak.

The premium 122s has no derp gun. If you are using the 122mm canon you are making a huge mistake. Su152 is probably one of the best td's t4t

Sorry but it is YOU WHO IS MISSING THE POINT . Your suggestion to nerf mobility but still leave it with no weakspots is New WG school of balancing. I agree doing both may be too much but the idea to nerf mobility is stupid. Armor should be nerfed to not turn it into type5. If you keep the speed but nerf the lfp the tank will still work for green+ players but it won't be idiot proof and you won't be able to yolo drunk and bounce everything as long as people don't shoot gold (and even that sometimes bounces). This will mean the tank won't be useless but will require thinking. If it's slow and has no weakspots it's annoying to play against, idiot proof and not really strong even if you play well. Type5 with non derp that sacrifices a turret for pen. So still a stupid tank, even if not a good one.
 
Also please don't use arguments "I don't have trouble with tank a therefore that tank is ok/balanced/not broken". We are not on the pub forums, this argument makes no sense. The Defender is clearly overperforming. Stats show that so I don't care if you can deal with them. The LFP also isn't trash. On flat ground same trier meds except centurion won't reliably pen it. Sorry but that is NOT trash. As for Chrystler - you go to it's side? The tank has amazing traverse so if you go to its side then it's not the tank being bad but the driver. Not to mention I was not talking about them being OP but them being a part of a trend of no weakspots. That's bad because it promotes flinging gold instead of actually knowing where to aim. So by wanting another tank to be like them you are supporting the shitty meta. Don't get me wrong I have nothing about gold spam and I don't complain about it but the no weakspot trend is plain dumb and I'm pretty sure most of wotlabs agrees it's bad for the game.
Just make the LFP 220-240. Old obj263 somehow could hide it's LFP and no one claimed it was shit. It was a balnced TD. This would make it a similar tank to old 263 though with less acc and more armor. 

Fixed that for you. The only reason why this may not be broken is WG is paranoidally afraid of tanks that can snipe and use vision since it angers the average Ivan player on RU server

Fixed that for you. The only reason why this may not be broken is WG is paranoidally afraid of tanks that can snipe and use vision since it angers the average Ivan player on RU server

Just wait for ON track for some armored tank where people think they can yolo you. 420 spam was amazing when they introduced the Badger and people felt immune. 

QB is an idiot and DPM is overrated otherwise Bat Chat would be trash. 

My thoughts exactly. Lets leave it at that.

Remember this is avg WR. So some of the tanks you mentioned may work very well for bad or average players. AMX 30B has awesome DPM so even a shitter yologing will do some dmg in it. 
 
FV4005 is very shitter friendly since lol no weakspots + high alpha. They don't even need to pen, just hit 2 shots and they hit their average t10 dpg

Damage should be 390, 350 just seems pointless to me. 
Intra-clip should be 2s.
Single shot DPM should be more like 1.8 - 2k, not 1k. Even the E50M is 2.5k base and is over 2.8k with a rammer which this I presume will not be able to have. 
30s reload, with 390 alpha and 2s intra-clip I think then would be fine.  That is still way longer than a TVP or even longer than a T57 or 50B. 
Rest of that tank looks solid, good speed, good power to weight, decent ground resistances, good gun depression and some slopes there to get some bounces, especially on reverse ridges. 
Pen, accuracy and aim time are also all solid, depends on the soft stats. 

Too bad the t10 will probably have no armor since that ufp looks autobounce

It reminds me the worst kind of official forum pubbies. "If u can kill it then it is not OP" 
Murazor, you are retarded. 

Never praise the tank before the end of the grind. It jinxes them. 

My WR and DPG are climbing after talking to you. I'm playing on some mongo account so trash crew and t54 gun so the initial stats before I started were 35% wr at 30 battles (ffs) and now I'm at 52% and 1700dpg and it's rising at  I think 70 battles or sth but I'm nowhere your results. I'm probably right behind top100. Would probably crack top100 with a better crew. Do you use food and what is your ammo loadout? 

Lowe > 54Prot> Liberte