hazzgar

He's saying stupid stuff. I'm stating facts but I need to grind credits so fine by me. 

I wanted to write a lot more but I'll only write 2 things:
1. What are the other advantages?
2. Also I'm not a social sciences guy. I am a signal transmission engineer. I just work in a different field. 
 
Also bagging on the whole social sciences makes you look like a moron. Another dweeb who hides his inferiority by trying to find faults in others. You would not have behavioral economics without psychology and sociology. You would not have neural networks without philosophy and cognitivism. You would not have accurate algorithms without anthropologists. Those are facts since those people are actually employed in said functions.

1. Lights don't have better gun handling. This is confirmation bias on your part (yeah I know evil social sciences). If you for example took t10 lights and compared their gun handling to t10 meds you would see they land smack down in the middle in dispersion stats while having lower final accuracy, lower shell speed which leads to worse gun handling. If you add to that lower pen and a way bigger shell drop off you have a much worse performing gun. Then you have 300-1000 less dpm, less alpha and light guns are basically tier 8.5 medium tank guns.
2. Hand brake? How is light "hand brake" better?
3. Better repair speed means nothing when you have no armor and no hp. If you get tracked in a light you are dead. No good player (and I mean good, not 51% "good") takes repairs in their first 4 skills in a light. Hell probably first 6 skills
4. Agility - outside of T100 and EBR the speed difference is not big enough. A med will still be able to chase you and you won't be able to outrun it. 
And yeah some mid tier lights will have decent bloom but that's also because t8 meds are underpowered. HMTV is still shit. It has 400-600 less dpm than the tanks you mention. Same or 20m lower view range, not enough shells and is fairly slow for a light being capped at 63kph. Also ironically the Swedish t8 med with 360 alpha still has better bloom and shell speed than the HMTV. Though mid tier lights only serve your arguments as there are close to no fast mid tier meds.
 
 
Also I would not call you a moron if you did not say something moronic about social sciences. You disregarded a huge chunk of science and you want me to respect your intelect? LOL Mate? Also the lack of consistent logic where you bash social sciences while also claiming to have a better grasp of lingistics. Sorry but one thing that's hard to respect is someone who can't adhere to a consistent logic within one post. Again seriously I'm medically diagnosed with problems with shit like that and you're worse than me. So it says a lot. 

My lame ass social science gave us behavioral economics which resulted in a Nobel from economy for Richard Thaler. They also gave us Amon Tversky and his studies on cognitivism or Daniel Dennet and his cognitivism studies. If you discard those people you are an uneducated moron but it's fun you are willing to say progressively dumber and dumber shit just because I offended you.
 
Also can you please respon to my question. What other advantages lights have over meds and other tanks?
Also again. I'm not a social scientist. I'm a signal analyst who got a job analyzing text. 

I wanted to write a lot more but I'll only write 2 things:
1. What are the other advantages?
2. Also I'm not a social sciences guy. I am a signal transmission engineer. I just work in a different field. 
 
Also bagging on the whole social sciences makes you look like a moron. Another dweeb who hides his inferiority by trying to find faults in others. You would not have behavioral economics without psychology and sociology. You would not have neural networks without philosophy and cognitivism. You would not have accurate algorithms without anthropologists. Those are facts since those people are actually employed in said functions.

Mate you can self define but no one will accept your self definition. For the same reason everyone mocks the "I'm not racist but..." argument. If you are bad, you get called bad, even if you don't want to, it's not a gender discussion where you feel you are stats fluid and you are not present on the bad-good player spectrum. You say bad players say, your problems are those of a bad player hence you are a bad player. 
Also yes throwing an object through the window technically is the same but it's a phraseologism. English is a language you either speak well or not. 
Finally your argument of "Good players lose many times" - No mate. The definition of a good player is someone who wins more than an average player. This is also how we assess tanks. If a tank is bad at positively influencing the game outcome it is a bad tank. I have not agreed to anything. Your definition of a tank being game breaking because it makes the game uncomfortable for you in a very specific scenario without limiting your ability to win against you is plain dumb. It makes no sense. Unless light tanks can carry late games super well they are not problematic. 
You Also mention Light changes but you are uninformed. Lights have been changed not because they were game breaking. They were changed because WG streamlined the matchmaker and wanted to remove any non standard MM tanks. The only ones that are left are prems and like 1-2 super old tanks. 
 
The only thing you are right is broken vs good. Lights are not good but what's broken about lights? The only advantage they have vs other tanks is camo. They have the same or sometimes lower view range than same tier meds and some heavies. They have shit guns with no pen, accuracy, dpg or alpha. They are only marginaly faster than same tier soft meds with a few exceptions. The only thing they have is camo and only a few light tanks actually have good camo. A sheridan has lower stationary value than an obj430U, and only 10% higher moving camo than 430U. The only broken light is the EBR 105. The rest are fine, some even require buffs. 
 
Also please don't be a child and when I accuse you of crying you say "no u are crying". What are you 5? FFs. If you want to take a jab at me at least invent your own. Your rhetoric is as bad as your arguments. 
 
This one is funny because it's not true. You are one of the most neg repped people on this forum who are not banned, if we count active users you are the most neg repped.
. That's a clearly checkable fact. 
I don't want to be a dick but you're wrong again. I am judging you therefore disproving this theory. 
 
I won't. Though if you continue to post please stop the stream of consciousness. You are not Faulkner. Re read what you post, think about it. Then post. 
 
 
PS. I'm not angry. I enjoy telling clearly deluded people they are stupid. I'm an asshole and the one thing I hate the most in life is bad logic and rhetoric so this is very engaging for me.

Yes because those are the only 2 camo situations. Either you are in a bush that provides you with a camo bonus or not. There is no third option. 
 
Also I'm not saying it's a good idea to setup a camo net in the open. I'm just saying it's the only place where it actually provides a substantial benefit. If you are in a bush you don't need a camo net. The bush and camo skills give you enough camo not to get spoted unless you shoot and if you shoot you just back away. L2P. 
I think he's triggered and will disagree with me on anything now. That or he doesn't know what double bushing is.

ok @Diriz0n and @hazzgar keep on topic without the bickering or I will close this thread. Nobody but you two are reading the walls of text being posted. Disagree all you want but keep the name calling out of it. 

Go back to university, study your lame ass social science, or whatever stupid humanity, and graduate without still knowing fact from fiction. And continue spreading your nonsense, as to not discern that good means better than bad or average. That is fact, whether you choose to downplay it or not. It is fact. No when said -how- good or great. Good. Which means what? Good, better than bad and average. Shit poster, extraordinaire. 
 

Not buying it. You are full of self defining attention seeking junk. I did this, in this tank. I did that, in that tank. In I am sure what many don't even care about. You said it, though you are certainly not a mate, I for sure don't accept any of your junk you say while defining, entitling yourself. I call you a bad player, because you say silly things like camo net and setup binocs in the open. Things that merit being called a bad player. So if you know what a mirror is, allow me to serve the same function, learn how to play, baddy. Perhaps you are short on your own medicine, and would like a dose of it. 
An average player wins 49.6% of the time NA, and does so with 1.1K WN8. So a good player by definition, is one that secures above that, and a bad one is one that finds him or herself below those numbers. When people have played thousands of games, even a high win rate can pile up thousands of losses, which when using ten minutes of fifteen minute maximum, still comprises of alot of games and time. So yes, a good player still loses many battles. Easiest when viewed in an absolute, you are making absolutely no sense at all because everyone on this forum is statistically a good. But you choose to wantonly label and define, at a whim, people as good or bad. This is the problem with you subjective social science individuals. You make your own rules. 
Light tanks were changed because people were complaining about constantly being over-tiered. And there passed a golden opportunity to tier them fairly, while also increasing the tech trees to tier ten. They were then immediately changed in the revision, as to not be too powerful with their old parameters in lower tier settings. And camo is not the only advantage. That is just stupid saying that.
My profile is open, I went through it yesterday. Go see for yourself. While doing so, omit this thread. But would I want to omit this thread? For sure not, I stand by what I have said. Again, the problem with you social science individuals, your schooling, your expertise - all of that nonsense, doesn't seem to accrue what is fact or fiction. You can't use the word fact, because you do not know what facts are. 
I think, though am not certain, another of your challenges is fragmented reading. Perhaps your lesser social sciences education, has taught you very well to skim over material, and just focus on what you believe important. I am not before pedestal, I am not out to judge you, for not only do I not know you but don't care to. This is not a house of parliament, not a courtroom, be the shit poster you want to be. 
 
 

Compared to A44, it has lower DPM despite also having lower pen.  While it does have more accuracy and less aim-time.....not by much. And A44 has better dispersion and shell velocity. T2O and Leo pay alot for their gun depression. I think Leo needs a hull armour improvement to at least like the Lansen, that removes alot of the HE penetrations it takes. 

Jesus. Can you finally get good? Both at tanks and posting? First of all many players like me focus on spotting more than on damage in lights so they don't pull your wn8 as much. My 3 marked amx 13 57 gives me like 4050 wn8. Not super high for a very hard to 3 mark low tier tank. Hell my 3 marked BC12T sits at somewhere around 3000 so around my Lowe 3 mark.
 
Also lights being bad for the game because they are hard to kill late game? Get good then. Lights are also bad at killing stuff so just don't suck and drive like a moron and you win with them. There is a reason why 95% of lights have wr's between shit and average. 
 
 
Also yeah neg rep is "your post is shit". You get many neg reps because all of your posts are shit .

Well you don't get to self define. That just throws your entire stupid reasoning out the window (not through). 
You said light tanks break late game. But to break late game they have to be good at winning. You are just another player who mistakes an annoying tank with a tank that needs a rebalance. "cry cry this thing made it hard for me, wg pls giv easy mode". Yeah lights have more opportunities to cause damage but that is countered by their overall shit damage dealing ability. Late game I'd much rather be facing a light tank even on an open map than a 430U, Obj140, BC25T, Leopard 1 post buffs or any reasonably fast/stealthy med. In a med I can just chase them. In a superheavy they won't damage me. 
 
Also stop crying about my post being toxic. The entire Wotlabs community thinks your posts are nonsense. To make it even worse your post structure is horrible. You can't coherently convey your thoughts. And yes I can judge you on that since a) I have ADHD and severe problems with coherently conveying ideas b) i get paid to judge text structure by very good writers. So stop crying and get good. Both at tanks and posts.

Don't worry guys when he gets unbanned we can keep this up. I have another meeting at work tomorrow. 

Well you don't get to self define. That just throws your entire stupid reasoning out the window (not through). 
You said light tanks break late game. But to break late game they have to be good at winning. You are just another player who mistakes an annoying tank with a tank that needs a rebalance. "cry cry this thing made it hard for me, wg pls giv easy mode". Yeah lights have more opportunities to cause damage but that is countered by their overall shit damage dealing ability. Late game I'd much rather be facing a light tank even on an open map than a 430U, Obj140, BC25T, Leopard 1 post buffs or any reasonably fast/stealthy med. In a med I can just chase them. In a superheavy they won't damage me. 
 
Also stop crying about my post being toxic. The entire Wotlabs community thinks your posts are nonsense. To make it even worse your post structure is horrible. You can't coherently convey your thoughts. And yes I can judge you on that since a) I have ADHD and severe problems with coherently conveying ideas b) i get paid to judge text structure by very good writers. So stop crying and get good. Both at tanks and posts.

Well you don't get to self define. That just throws your entire stupid reasoning out the window (not through). 
You said light tanks break late game. But to break late game they have to be good at winning. You are just another player who mistakes an annoying tank with a tank that needs a rebalance. "cry cry this thing made it hard for me, wg pls giv easy mode". Yeah lights have more opportunities to cause damage but that is countered by their overall shit damage dealing ability. Late game I'd much rather be facing a light tank even on an open map than a 430U, Obj140, BC25T, Leopard 1 post buffs or any reasonably fast/stealthy med. In a med I can just chase them. In a superheavy they won't damage me. 
 
Also stop crying about my post being toxic. The entire Wotlabs community thinks your posts are nonsense. To make it even worse your post structure is horrible. You can't coherently convey your thoughts. And yes I can judge you on that since a) I have ADHD and severe problems with coherently conveying ideas b) i get paid to judge text structure by very good writers. So stop crying and get good. Both at tanks and posts.

Well you don't get to self define. That just throws your entire stupid reasoning out the window (not through). 
You said light tanks break late game. But to break late game they have to be good at winning. You are just another player who mistakes an annoying tank with a tank that needs a rebalance. "cry cry this thing made it hard for me, wg pls giv easy mode". Yeah lights have more opportunities to cause damage but that is countered by their overall shit damage dealing ability. Late game I'd much rather be facing a light tank even on an open map than a 430U, Obj140, BC25T, Leopard 1 post buffs or any reasonably fast/stealthy med. In a med I can just chase them. In a superheavy they won't damage me. 
 
Also stop crying about my post being toxic. The entire Wotlabs community thinks your posts are nonsense. To make it even worse your post structure is horrible. You can't coherently convey your thoughts. And yes I can judge you on that since a) I have ADHD and severe problems with coherently conveying ideas b) i get paid to judge text structure by very good writers. So stop crying and get good. Both at tanks and posts.

Jesus. Can you finally get good? Both at tanks and posting? First of all many players like me focus on spotting more than on damage in lights so they don't pull your wn8 as much. My 3 marked amx 13 57 gives me like 4050 wn8. Not super high for a very hard to 3 mark low tier tank. Hell my 3 marked BC12T sits at somewhere around 3000 so around my Lowe 3 mark.
 
Also lights being bad for the game because they are hard to kill late game? Get good then. Lights are also bad at killing stuff so just don't suck and drive like a moron and you win with them. There is a reason why 95% of lights have wr's between shit and average. 
 
 
Also yeah neg rep is "your post is shit". You get many neg reps because all of your posts are shit .

Lol at using camo net. Seriously. Either you are in a bush and can double bush or you are in the open and even with the net you get spoted if you shoot. Your advice is as bad as your post structure. I've read Steven Seagal movie scripts that were better written than your posts.

Jesus. Can you finally get good? Both at tanks and posting? First of all many players like me focus on spotting more than on damage in lights so they don't pull your wn8 as much. My 3 marked amx 13 57 gives me like 4050 wn8. Not super high for a very hard to 3 mark low tier tank. Hell my 3 marked BC12T sits at somewhere around 3000 so around my Lowe 3 mark.
 
Also lights being bad for the game because they are hard to kill late game? Get good then. Lights are also bad at killing stuff so just don't suck and drive like a moron and you win with them. There is a reason why 95% of lights have wr's between shit and average. 
 
 
Also yeah neg rep is "your post is shit". You get many neg reps because all of your posts are shit .

Lol at using camo net. Seriously. Either you are in a bush and can double bush or you are in the open and even with the net you get spoted if you shoot. Your advice is as bad as your post structure. I've read Steven Seagal movie scripts that were better written than your posts.

Lol at using camo net. Seriously. Either you are in a bush and can double bush or you are in the open and even with the net you get spoted if you shoot. Your advice is as bad as your post structure. I've read Steven Seagal movie scripts that were better written than your posts.

Jesus. Can you finally get good? Both at tanks and posting? First of all many players like me focus on spotting more than on damage in lights so they don't pull your wn8 as much. My 3 marked amx 13 57 gives me like 4050 wn8. Not super high for a very hard to 3 mark low tier tank. Hell my 3 marked BC12T sits at somewhere around 3000 so around my Lowe 3 mark.
 
Also lights being bad for the game because they are hard to kill late game? Get good then. Lights are also bad at killing stuff so just don't suck and drive like a moron and you win with them. There is a reason why 95% of lights have wr's between shit and average. 
 
 
Also yeah neg rep is "your post is shit". You get many neg reps because all of your posts are shit .

Can you phrase your posts so they don't seem like they are randomly generated by a bad machine learning algorithm that imitates forum shitstorms?

Huh.
Its almost like they said the same things I did.
 
I wonder why you decided to reply to me, and me specifically about this?
Could it be you were triggered by the last time I posted?
Does the very idea that the first people into space could be good at engineering bother you that much?
How butthurt are you?
 
 
I wanna see you try and tell these people they are wrong the same way you tried to tell me.
How fast do you get ban?
Oh that's right you're too much of a wimp to say it.
Oops.