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Yeah I currently use bond vents, rammer and v stab. Great crew skills, including all vision and camo you can get.

I guess it's whether to ditch the vents or the vstab. I'm leaning to ditching vstab, but it might make brawling trickier. @kolni, what are your thoughts on this? What setup do you run on 907?

@sr360 what would you drop for it on the 907? I've yet to take the leap using it, but with the bounty version I feel like i should give it a go. I've always been crap in the 907 so i'm hoping it'll make the tank more comfortable too.

@Jul_Le they had to remove those +5% boosters as people were getting nose bleeds rising up the tiers too fast.

I keep seeing poor @kolni trying his best there. It's like explaining advanced particle physics to lemurs.

@CandyVanMan somewhere between this and the official forums.

If anything it's official forums on steroids - people super confident in their own (shitter) opinions, with the ability to downvote in packs.

Safe to say i've learned my lesson.

Yeah

What fields mods do you take specifically? So far i've been hesitant to take any with the tradeoffs.

Apologies if there's a post on the meta of this that i've missed.

As I unlock more field mods on my tier 10s, i'm going to lean into this more, particularly on tanks which don't have purple equipment already.

Mostly, i've only unlocked all field mods on my most played tier 8s from Frontlines, and i've not really taken advantage of the potential variation in set-ups.

Have either of you two been purchasing the trade-off upgrades? I've not seen one yet that I genuinely want, although there is one on the VZ-55 i'm close to, which allows you to trade hitpoints for gun stats which I might purchase (given you get extra hitpoints anyway for getting to level 6 in the field mods).

I don't think I could put the stealth build on either, as they're just too good (especially the 46) at combat to justify sacrificing gun stats. I guess the point of the stealth build is it CAN work on any med with decent camo, but these 2 in particular, even on a map like Prok, would IMO gain more from better gun stats from Vents / VStab, than they would from the stealth build.

With both, I have optics as the other equipment anyway, which gets the best of both worlds I think.

EDIT: So to answer the question, i'd say it's heresy. 

Someone needs to tell the EU server

@CraBeatOff, 47.78 stationary and 32.27 moving, albeit standard LNES and not bounty. Very effective for a TD.

Link?

Also, have you tried it on TDs? I equipped the SU-130PM with LNES and it has insane camo with it. Even 200m I can go unspotted in tier 8 games

Ah, so on Cliff you managed to get around 2k just on the meds on the sniper's ledge, plus some late game 1/2 line farm. That makes sense. What is your reload? It was bugged and I couldn't see. And view range / set up (it feels like at least 500m)? I'm wondering whether it is worth dropping bonds on.

In terms of El Halluf, all I can say is KEKL. I did not realise you could spot that cross from your side at tier 10. I know it was only 1 or 2 shots, but useful to know. Nice use of HE too, especially on the retards who just drove into the open after winning the heavy corner.

Last thought - I don't know how your 3rd person aim so much, it would fuck me up. Kudos if you can do it though, it's preferable to not be constantly switching between 3rd and 1st person.

Colour me intrigued. I'm at a loss as to how you did it, but i'm looking forward to watching both now.

I always check your replay results and i'm like "how the fuck did he get 5k spotting on that map, in that tank", and that's what i'm thinking looking at that Cliff game.

When I finish work today i'll actually have to watch it.

I'm also surprised that damage on El Halluf in a non-gun depression tank, but I can at least picture how it went (corner poking idiots).

Sounds interesting. I ran my Hwk with the same, but Improved vents instead of low noise exhaust, to max the view range.

I could see myself running this with the Manticore maybe. I don't play lights generally, but I realised doing missions that they are OP if you actually max out their strengths. I might need to dust them off and try this out.

Most autoloaders / reloaders are dangerous for scouts as probably 50%+ will run optics, as they can't mount a rammer. Especially at tier 8 (Prog, Borat), they can have near 500m view range in some set-ups, which can fuck anyone up if they're not expecting it.

Source: Found out the hard way in Hwk 12 doing missions. Although that was rare, as 553m view range with CVC was hilariously OP.

What does the full stealth build encompass?

No, but then i'm not a top purple. I think WN8 isn't the best nowadays, but for me and my recents (3.9k, 63%), I think that's still below elite.

I think anything below pulling 4.5k WN8 (or 3.8k+ DPG in tier 10s, to use another metric) means you're inconsistent and bound to therefore boom and bust, hence sometimes feeling like you're great (with the recents to back it up), and the other times playing like shit and your recents tumble. 

@hazzgar maybe, idk. If i'm not on the watchlist i'd be surprised - I've had around 10 chat bans over the years i think.

(again, not proud and i'm better than i was, but still).

@hazzgar you really can. I just finished a ban (which I completely deserved), but that was over a number of days of losing my shit playing missions.

Ordinarily, i'll snap 1 game out of 20, spout shit in chat, and have no repercussions. I have to do it consistently, over multiple days/games, to get chat banned.

[DOUBLE POST - MOD PLS DELETE]

I love how on EU you can say so much worse and be fine, but on NA you get banned for the smallest provocation.

Maybe it's because adding an auto-filter is harder when you have potentially dozens of languages? Or the moderators first language isn't English? Even so, things like fuck and cunt should be easy to spot. I think it's just more of a tolerant attitude tbh.

@sr360 what would you run in randoms - the same, or would it be config / rammer / vstab?

I'm leaning towards improved config (the purple version) / rammer / vstab to begin with.

@CraBeatOff so Rammer, Hardening and Config?

I guess i'm trying to understand how bad the ammo rack and fires are on it.