Diriz0n

Those are very high 3MoE reqs, certainly for IS5. I don't remember those reqs being anywhere near that high Just pick tanks people typically loath. Like T-43, or KV-13, A-44

I like grinding Frontlines. Provides a fairer, equal tier 8 opportunity to grind out useless tech tree tier 8 tanks

I purchased Cry-K for 5.8mill, and got the Mutz for 4.7mill. Considering I threw down 9mill for Caern AX last black market, getting the two of them for that amount.....it was a steal. My only regret, was the schedule flop that caused me to miss Lansen for 8.5mill. In addition, the on-track for T11OE3 rounded out my purchases, 4.3mill for a brand new tier X Definitely was not willing to bid gold for EBR75, no matter how good it is. or buy the SU76(i) for an extremely ridiculous 14K gold.

N0w it hits f0r that damage. N0t later 0n, if sandb0x g0es thr0ugh. What is the base HE dmg currently used in test FV 183? I read it was 480 0r 580, s0mething like that. Which means it has ab0ut the p0wer 0f what 50TP can currently d0, firing just HE, with0ut any pen 0r the rate 0f fire WG has t0 c00k up s0me buffs for HESH, the shell type will n0 l0nger exist if sandb0x testing went live because it is simply the same as HE then

when medium tanks first came 0ut with tier 10 tanks they were given 105mm pen HEP r0unds. They were rem0ved in testing iterati0ns, 0nly FV4202 and 121B kept them. Since then, 0nly pr0gett0 has been added - I c0nsider these HESH n0t HE. But simply put, HESH equals HE, they behave the same may. Actually, m0st HESH examples have 0ne negative effective, which is als0 seen in high pen HE n0t necessarily named as HESH -- and that is vel0city dr0p. M41GF, HK3O, RU251, Excalibur, Pr0gett0, Etc. N0t always the case, but very c0mm0n. Tanks like FV421, C0nquer0r, Badger, 0bj 263 d0n't have their higher pen HE shells really dr0p in vel0city. Just g0ing back 0n the ideas: Since tanks c0mm0nly hit their targets as 0pp0sed t0 artillery which uses fragmentati0n, the stun timer can be m0re f0cused. Say starting at min-b0re size like 105mm, 2-3 sec0nd stun c0uld be a thing? 120mm c0uld be 3-4 sec0nds? That c0uld mean all the difference in a firefight. What was the last iterati0n 0f damage f0r FV4K5? S0mething like 480? Well if HE linearly falls int0 place, have FV with its n0rmal HE r0und, d0 that 480 while the HESH is buffed t0 515? I d0 n0t kn0w what the nerfed HE dmg f0r Type 4/5 will be, let us say 360, have the HE d0 that while the HESH gets bumped up t0 410? Y0u are right, burst radius sucks. HESH dynamics d0n't increase burst radius anyway, by principle. Giving HESH .6 seems like a g00d idea, and while they are at t0 widen the gap decrease HE m0difer t0 .4

That is of particular interest. I am not sure what they plan to do. All HESH is, is high pen HE, at least within the game. Take away the high pen.....and what is HESH? HE. -Give HESH a small stun timer? -Allow HESH to retain the inner module damage critical hits, that they are taking away from HE? -Decrease HESH burst radius, but increase its shell damage compared to HE? -Give HESH a higher inherit HE formula modifier on non penetrations? (IE .6 instead of .5) Who knows at this point. But from the bland statements we have got over the past week, HESH looks real useless without any explanation

HE is supposed to be heavily nerfed. It is either A) a tool to use when you can penetrate thin light armour (which requires aiming) B) a tool to use to prevent bullying, applying very little, insignificant dmg to +2 high tiered foes, or extremely entrenched/hulldown enemies or C) to reset cap, with high guarantee to at least apply little, again insignificant damage. What is pissing off people now is, HE either does too much damage when used in a spam tactic, to counter stuff like side scrape or hulldown. or it causes too much module dmg even with no penetration, even with very little dmg done. or it causes no damage at all, when it is supposed to work, like cap reset or a tank with 22 HP left, but the target still survives the hit. or a batchat arty, trying to help the team against superheavy enemies, to only deal 25 dmg hits. or worse, zero. Zilch.

I understand. But what about Senlac? HK30? Kanone? M41GF. EBR75? Mutz? People paid for those as well. They all stand to lose their HE effectiveness Tupin, KV2 has more DPM than ARL44 (with the broken 330 APCR too) oi with the 105mm, and T150 with 107. The gun depression isn't bad. As far as tier 6 shitters go, KV2 isn't the worst out there

I think this could be one of the more stupid blunders WG has, or is set to go forward with. HE pen, even HESH is nerfed for a whole range of things, the overwhelming majority, but remains potent for KV2? and that warhammer KV2R? Really? What has changed? All the people crying, don't take my KV2 away, or quickybaby releasing that sob story, and WG backs it's tracks? Wth? what about all the people that have fun in their M4, PZlV, Hetzer? Why do they have to have their HE taken away? or is it just they wish to protect the KV2R prem purchase, with it's potent and funny high HE pen. Well.....the problem with that, what about people who spent their money on M41GF? Senlac? HK30? Mutz? Kanone? 50TP? Well seems like those are all losing their HE pen, but not KV2R? Da, comrade. Russian bias continues to be a problem in this game, a simple problem to fix, but nevertheless one never really addressed for this games running entirety. It is getting old now, real old. on a simpler note: Arty, one of the games most frustrating occurrences of unfair HE penetrations, remains. KV2(s) a tank that drags up many poor tier 4s, a huge HE problem ever since moved from tier 5, where it was even a larger HE problem then, will remain rampant. Congrats. FV4K5 will have its due HE and HESH rework balance, which is nice for the game, but I wonder if they re-buff the actual vehicle parameters back. It's ammo needed the balancing, not the physical vehicle itself. Probably not. Type 4 and 5, and even oho, oi -- just lol. Not Russian. They can go cry in a corner.

PPfffftttttt puny gold. Some guy on Mahou, said he bid 69, 420 gold. What kind of nut does something like that. I would not pay 69K gold, even if it were for Gold Type 59, normal Type 59, 59-patton, T-34-3 all lumped together......rather than just a Type. Autistus deletus. -H

your response doesn't make much sense. Unless in bad situations. Super Conqueror, is popular for all the reasons Caern AX is popular. Despite it having low alpha damage, which Conqueror also does too. - it has great gun dep, minimizing exposure when used proerply. Like super conq - it has great heavy tank DPM, like super conq, when used properly allows itself to quickly wear down foes - it has good turret armour and spaced armour panels, giving it protection against HEAT and HE. Same tier AP from all but TDs are horribly outmatched in trying to pen Caern AX in the turret, which is same like super conq - excellent gun handling, in all forms: acc, aim-time, disp, shell velocity, turret traverse....no surprise, like super conq ............. The only issue Caern AX trades away opposed to super conq, is lower comparable view range, worse cupola, and hull armour (upper/sides) which I think is fair, given being a tier 8 and also having the upside of being an earning prem, crew trainer, as well as accelerating much better. Which is a big flaw for super conq. Caern AX is great for tier 8s, no question and it should seeking position to limit exposure, no question.

I wished they just made the change to silver. Seems to be a world of tanks ongoing trend anyway, to make these changes so people complain less and less about gold expenditures. I would easily be down with paying five-hundred K, or one or two mill silver - to change a completely useless radio operator to a worthwhile crew member. Non German that is, who seem to favour the radio operator. Russia is particularly bad with it, having lines like KV4, MT25, 212A, T3485 halt with the radio operators and then three skill crew members aren't being used anymore. It adds up, at five-hundred gold a pop I have a feeling they are delaying making any of these changes, because of upcoming crew changes (2) being a thing for this year. And I understand crew books sort of alleviate the problem, but why should I have to pay for six mill in crew books, when I can just sub-in another fairly experienced crew member from something like KV4 or T28 Proto or T32 and 212A

it was 5.5mill for M41GF? Up to 8.5mill for Lansen. And Caern AX was 9mill if I remember. I would not disagree with paying 9.2mill for Cry-K, but only if it were rigidly set at that price and released into the market with only like 2-3K pieces available. It will sell fast, real fast. But that is not the case with 4OK pieces available and an auctioning starting off at 3mill. Though I am sure some nuts will drop 1O-15mill, the tanks are mostly not going to sell for that. I would say 6mill is a safe shot at the tank.

Tiger has powerful DPM, and a large health pool. It takes damage fairly easily, but can be powerful when top tier. Type 62 is a powerful tier 7 light tank, because it has pre-Nerf 9.17 light tank stats, like AMX1357 Rhm Borsig is still a great sniper schnitzel TD, with acceptable late game clean up ability because it has a turret. Though nowhere near as flexible as Skorp G or SU130PM, because those are much faster - Borsig plays the sniper bit better because of DPM and camo benefits. Borsig also is very fun, as some people use the derper HEAT/HE tandem T32 is awful, and has fell to power creep for many several years ago. It has strong view range, strong turret armour, strong gun depression - but literally everything else is bad. It is a not so useful gimmick, that has long been replaced by more serviceable alternatives like Caern AX, normal Caern, 50 TP, Patriot, or heck even 5/1 RAAC Fucking 0's.

SU85 (i) sucks. You are talking about SU76 (l) Which is just blown out of proportion too, because so many tier 3-4 have 65 pen to smash it with now. It does not have FCM Pak VR, -GD, DPM, pen, accuracy, aim-time, soft gun stats....heck it does not even have its HP. The squishy mango FCM, has more HP than this shitbox. Hardly anything at all, all SU76 (l) gets are top speed it only goes when downhill, camo which is only slightly better and massively worse when combined with its terrible VR, and lots of ammunition storage it gets to use for A) ricocheting off Matilda B) never firing because its promptly 2-shot T-22 R would be nice.