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i would pick caro tbh, a bit derpy gun handling and slow dpm, but on the other italian tanks, the slow dpm is `fine` (and its the best looking tank)

Other wise the Vk, obj 907 is just an obj 140, and speaking of 907, is that tank even better as 140 nowadays? 140 has same gun, but better gun handling, better turret armour (907 has a big 40mm zone, obj a much smaller 45mm zone) and 140 has much better gun depression (-7 vs -5)

907 has way better side armour, but thats it, i`d pick 140 any day in randoms, better turret and gun depression as way more usefull as reverse side scraping imo... (when i see a tryhard doing that, im 100% loading full gold to kill you first, shitty tactics and tacticool bs needs to be purged first...)

If you wanna be picked in CW more, 907.

If you want interesting gimmick tank, Carro.

If you want to turn off brain and blap people for 750, VK.

T95 is kinda trash tbh. In regards to the 907, the hull armour is quite trolly and can bounce occasionally, especially when rushing. That plus the very very slightly better dpm means its still preferred in organised battles. In pubs the 140 is just way more comfortable.

907 is the best out of all available tanks. The go to medium tank in CW. And the best Russian medium in the game. 

VK is a very good super heavy. But it is slow and therefore not really my cup of tea. 

121b is a good medium after all the Buffs. But it is also available in bind store. So no reason why to pick it here. 

Carro is shit. Only good thing is it's exclusivity. Armor is meh. Gun handling is shit. Dpm is meh. New CZ tank ha better gun handling than this turd. 

M60 is nothing special when you have the M48. And it is in the bond shop as well. Therefore no reason to pick it here. 

E6 is a tank from the past. Even after the Buffs it feels like this tank has been left behind. 

When games are not designed to be frustrating, and even designed not to be frustrating (as much as possible while still offering some challenge), it shows in their population. That, of course is just one aspect, but a big one.

@GehakteMolen remember IS-2 with 300 pen on Tier 7? Or was it 275? I remember the value was moronic. T57 Heavy was also quite broken.

It had 300, same as T69 xD (hence my (and other peoples) old T69 stats are close to unbeatable, 2623 dpg for me, others have 2800 or even 3k i think)

@GehakteMolen well yeah. 300 pen that goes through spaced armor, doesn't lose pen at long distance in an autoloader when there were very few autoloaders and many tanks had less armor and the game was less hull down. I was a total scrub who was playing t5-t6 then but the few times I went up (for some reason I chose Cent and T28 prot... I was a moron) I avoided t69's (phrasing) like a plague

Yeah literally platooned about 15 tier 10 games with @Private_Miros and seen Grand Battles twice (I have them turned off).

What missions are you trying to do in Grand battles? 

oooh, I had never thought of that....

big brain moment

just use the stock gun. Stunning missions are a joke

It's getting those tier 8 matchups that seems so hard at the moment! In my 30 games, I think only a handful of them even had tier 8s in them, and never more than 3. I have been 1 shot away about 3 or 4 times only to fail because the other half of the enemy team just died before I could clean up my flank.

 Tried the TD mission with 4 times the dmg of your hp. 

4 games 1600DPG. Absolute unit after I put a decent crew in it. BiA, Camo. 

I think I had one with 4,5k+. Will play it again to grind the Bobject.

Yeah I played it a bit a while ago, for the 4x hp or whatever mission, just shy of 1800 dpg at tier 6.
The tank is disgusting.

God I miss team damage.

I also want arty to be kill

I think team damage being off has been a better thing over all, but trying to do damage blocked missions has crushed all feelings I have towards artillery other than hatred. I don't want team damage on because I think It would be better for the game. I want team damage on so I can kill friendly M44s until I get banned. 

https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Battle_Mechanics#Fire_Damage

Yes, by damaging engine, does not necessarily have to be enough to turn engine yellow though.

Yeah, its shit when I played it last time. Back when it didnt have 122mm, it was totally different tank. Turretless medium more like.

It was kinda fun back when it had 3.6k DPM, still absolute ass, but fun.

;-;

If you leave now, you may get away with your life but I'd wash my tracks with bleach just to be sure. 

Offer her some catnip

How do you know this?

SchnitzelTruck works for the WG dev team, suddenly everything makes sense. 

I love it, and the M48 at tier 10 too. It has its limits (poor final accuracy, weak standard round penetration and no HEAT, and not the best turret) but it's comfy and a great all-rounder. I run Rammer, Vstab and Optics on it because my crew isn't the best (moved the better one up a tier) and don't run food. Could do well with a Turbo but I feel the gun handling isn't quite good enough to drop Vstab, unlike on the M48.

I will forever go against the grain on this one. I just cant get behind a medium that large, that squishy, with terrible AP/Prem pen, horrible accuracy, and average-ish mobility, all in exchange for above average gun handling/VR/gun dep. The people raving about it years ago were all about the ez 5k+ Wn8, not cause the tank is actually special.

less pen than a Pershing and shitty final accuracy

@ZXrageThat is expecting a lot out of your average arty player. Next you're going to do something even crazier, like ask them to breath through their noses, or chew gum and walk at the same time.

That thing about being right on top to see tracers is just fucked.  Most of the time no one indicates they have been hit or from where so you need to scan the likely spots.  Just staring at a likely spot hoping that someone shoots on your reload is another level of the WG embrace of random. 

Arty missions are a Lovecraftian nightmare of dread and hopelessness. 

Well Said...

You mean with the 279e + Chieftain triple platoons running around shitting on everything else?

I didn't see any of those in about a dozen games.

Did they give them out again?
I got mine years ago

Every one of the "premium" tanks involved in this event is unsalvageable shit. The T-116 might be passable, that's it.

Tier 6 is Good, the tier 7 SUCKS

The line ends at tier 6

Also for anyone that cares.  WG decided to change the tier 8 Radio Operator to the Loader.  Luckily all the rest are on the Commander, so I don't need to retrain 2 crew members...

It is completely stupid and has ruined tiers 6 and 7, which used to be at least somewhat playable.

Another thing that has really started bugging me is that the arty changes have made them so accurate up close. Like half of the time I see a pubby LT manage to make it up to the arty, they get popped anyway.

On 7/30/2020 at 6:48 PM, GehakteMolen said:

half the arty players prob plays for some stupid mission...

I'm guilty.

I just had a Leo 1 try and side-scrape against me. :/