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It's just "possible",FTR source: http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/07/03/3-7-2014/

Hey, don't include me into them cuz my IQ is above 80 as I agree with you and it seems I'm the only one who gave you an upvote

Sure with 230mm it can still one-shot tier 8s and 9s, but also note that the average HP of tier 8 is less than 1750, so use HESH against tier VIII is kinda overkill, not worth the price Anyway since the rumor says about the possible reworking of HESH mechanics which gives HESH massive increase of normalization (probably around 20 degrees), then I'm looking forward to see 183 penetrate E75's upper plate. So maybe it's a little bit too early to judge 183's HESH rounds now

well, if Russians want to simulate exactly how HESH works in real life, then the normalization should be 90 degrees, which makes sloped armor utterly useless, but WOT is just a game, it needs balance, so normalization with 20 degrees should be far enough I guess, this will grant that with 230mm, 183 can still pen E100's lower plate easily but can't pen it's upper plate(with effective armor of 200mm/cos(60-20degrees) = 261mm), also, it has high chance to pen E75's upper plate (160mm/cos(60-20degrees) = 208mm instead of 320mm)

From FTR, looks like 183 is actually getting a huge buff: http://ftr.wot-news....07/03/3-7-2014/ it’s possible that HESH mechanism will be reworked (SS: the way HESH worked in real life is quite complicated to model, but I was told that the simpliest representation possible would be massive increase of normalization to simulate the fact that HESH actually does better against sloped surfaces) if this is reliable, then in future with 230 pen HESH, 183 can easily pen the upper plate of E75 with nearly 60 degrees normalization (Which is awesome) But I highly doubt this new HESH mechanism would come in patch 9.2, because there only 6 tanks that fire HESH rounds, it's not likely that Russians are gonna put this reworking into priority Best guess is that this new mechanism would come right before or after the new British 183mm autoloader TD

then don't bother mention it

According to today's FTR, looks like 183 is actually getting a huge buff: http://ftr.wot-news....07/03/3-7-2014/ it’s possible that HESH mechanism will be reworked (SS: the way HESH worked in real life is quite complicated to model, but I was told that the simpliest representation possible would be massive increase of normalization to simulate the fact that HESH actually does better against sloped surfaces) if this is reliable, then in future with 230 pen HESH, 183 can easily pen the upper plate of E100 which makes it much easier for 183 to deal huge amount of damage to tier X heavies Actually not just 183, any British tanks that can fire HESH would benefit from this new mechanism, but don't expect too much from it, because if this is the case then 183's HESH will be too OP which is not what the developers wanted. All we can do is just wait and see how this goes and I highly doubt this new HESH mechanism would come in patch 9.2

According to today's FTR, looks like 183 is actually getting a huge buff: http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/07/03/3-7-2014/ it’s possible that HESH mechanism will be reworked (SS: the way HESH worked in real life is quite complicated to model, but I was told that the simpliest representation possible would be massive increase of normalization to simulate the fact that HESH actually does better against sloped surfaces) if this is reliable, then in future with 230 pen HESH, 183 can easily pen the upper plate of E100 which makes it much easier for 183 to deal huge amount of damage to tier X heavies Actually not just 183, any British tanks that can fire HESH would benefit from this new mechanism, but don't expect too much from it, because if this is the case then 183's HESH will be too OP which is not what the developers wanted. All we can do is just wait and see how this goes and I highly doubt this new HESH mechanism would come in patch 9.2

R.I.P 183

still a good TD as far as I'm concerned

I hope you can also post some 183's map guide, I can't play this TD well

nice, thanks Carbon

Here's a thread of a player who played 800 183 and he's suggestion is that get camo for FV215b 183, but I heard that TD's camo is re-worked in patch 8.11, so should I learn this skill or not? Thanks! http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/278550-fv215b-183-how-i-play-itfit-it/

sometimes the HESH deals 1000 damage, it must be a non-pen shot, but it still has 1000, wow

so basically I need to "sell" my team to get kills and damage huh, and besides, 183 can only bring 12 rounds, my combination is 3 AP + 7 HESH + 2 HE