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Originally I didn't plan on continuing the 430 line after the 416 but I didn't like the latter that much so I went ahead and bought the tier 9 pancake. Obligatory pic of tenk (will make new when I get home to my beloved GTX660 oh yes) A deeper look into vehicle characteristics; Gun: OK Armor: OK View range: OK Camo: OK Mobility: OK Gund handling: NOT OK Arty-protection: WHAT PROTECTION? Seriously though, this tank is one of the underdogs on the battlefield and I just love it. You constantly have to work to use all the strengths (gun, view range) and to mitigate the weaknesses (gun depression, low profile) but when it works, oh boy... Another pro is that you don't have to research the next gun (if you haven't already) as the stock one is obviously superior. You don't need the tracks for any upgrade/equipment either and the engine barely makes a difference (in HP). Something else that surprised me (and that you don't have as often with the 416), is the amount of bounces you can pull off with that armor. The values (hull) are the same as the T-54, but it's obviously angled quite a bit better. Try to keep some distance to your enemy to prevent them shooting down on the top of your tank. Turret armor values are superior to the T-54. I haven't checked with tank inspector yet but it would surprise me if the effective armor was less. When you see that E100 turning his turret. After non-damaging impact What else is there to like... Sidescraping actually works. Despite the low armor you can still work with your sides if you peek quickly (which you can thanks to that rear-mounted turret). People tend to shoot tracks... Surely I've forgotten some things... What's your experience? Edit: didn't know Garbad already did a review (http://wotlabs.net/articles/object-430-ii-review/)