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Hi everybody! This is my first topic ever on this forum (yay), and it is a bit of a weird one. Or at least I think it might be weird. With the new Swedish tank lines that came out recently, I decided to go up the heavy route over the TD route since I like brawl gameplay and having also found a love for autoloaders with the Batchat 25t and The M41 Bulldog. So I went up the heavy route blind and got to tier 8 - the Emil I. This tank is probably the absolute best tank I have ever played. The strong turret armour combined with the -12 gun depression made it amazing in top tier games, and I was able to carry even tier 10 games using the pretty nice autoloading 105mm that the tank gets. The aiming time was a bit potato, but I managed to solve that by getting up-close and personal unless I knew that I would get destroyed. This worked out most of the time and I was even able to meet the requirements for the ace tanker - on a defeat! (See this link: Emil I ace tanker) My stats in the tank (quite interestingly I don't bounce a lot): Now, after about 120 games in this tank I was able to get more than enough xp for the Emil II. Since the Emil II is pretty much an upgrade in all aspects you would expect similar things to what the Emil I was capable of. It has stronger turret armour, it has more penetration, it has more alpha damage (and therefore clip potential) and has more side armour, though it suffers from less frontal armour. For me, this tank is much worse. It was like changing from the 50 100 to the 50 120 - it felt like a downgrade, probably because I feel more comfortable at tier 8 than tier 9 in heavy tanks. Admittedly I haven't played as many games in it, but with the Emil I felt right at home from the first game I played. The tank is really good, I'm just not as good as I'd like to be in it. It is a fun tank to play and I bounce a lot of damage with the turret (yesterday I bounced Jg.Pz.E100 heat lol) but the gun doesn't hit or pen a lot of the time from my experience. Here are my stats (so far) in the tank (again, I don't bounce a lot but I do use the turret all the time): So basically I'd say I prefer the Emil I over the Emil II and my performance probably reflects that. Just curious as to what you guys think of the tanks, they are amazing, perhaps even imbalanced, but which one is better tier for tier? Cheers! P.S Feel free to post stats like I did. I'd love to see other people's comparison in stats between the two!