Premium Planes: What's Hot and What's Not...

[OOPMan 1,266]

Does this only include premiums you are actually capable of buying?

 

Example: The Cessna of Doom

 

Yeah, mainly it's the non-purchasable. 

 

I don't see much point in covering the non-purchasable ones because, well, you can't buy them :-)

[bandet 12]

Yeah, mainly it's the non-purchasable. 

 

I don't see much point in covering the non-purchasable ones because, well, you can't buy them :-)

 

There's plenty of reasons...

 

Suppose, for example, I wanted to make someone that didn't have it jelly?

 

[OOPMan 1,266]

Argh, I meant purchasable.

 

I don't really see the point in making people jelly :-)

[bandet 12]

Argh, I meant purchasable.

 

I don't really see the point in making people jelly :-)

 

Because it's peanut butta jelly time.

[Nalyk 8]

 

Tell me:

• Ba.27M (Tier 3 CN Fighter) - Unknown
• Ki-43-Ic (Tier 4 CN Fighter) - Unknown
• P-39Q-15 (Tier 6 USSR Fighter) - Unknown
• Kawasaki Ki-88 (Tier 6 Japanese Fighter) - Meh.  Decent speed. Workable altitude, but you can't derp peoples wings off anymore.  Not much of a point. (Haven't flown personally this info is 2nd hand)
• Mustang  Mk. I (Tier 6 UK Fighter) - Solid.  Comparable to the P-51A with a couple 20's in place of a couple machine guns.
• FW 190 A-8/R2 (Tier 7 DE Fighter) - Flies like it's tier 6 counter part which is the gem of the line.  If you're okay with dealing with tier 7's is workable. (Haven't flown personally this info is 2nd hand)
• XP-75 (Tier 7 US Heavy Fighter) - An...interesting plane.  While it's fun to fly I find it difficult to justify flying it.  At the very least, don't premium (or if you do not API) ammo on it; 10x.50 cals can take out a huge amount of profitability.  Doesn't really compete well in the tier 6 heavy meta (read the Me-410 which still dominates).  Fun to wreck face on other planes though as most don't expect it to put out as much hurt as it does, Serviceable speed and altitude, but lacks a good escape mechanic from other tier 7's.
• Yak-3RD (Tier 7 USSR Fighter) - unknown
• Meteor F. I (Tier 7 UK Fighter) - Solid jet.  Good speed and firepower.  Terribad altitude band.  Easy to get caught out of your element and get derped way up high if you're not careful.  
• J4M Senden (Tier 7 JP Fighter) - Plays similar to the lightning with more speed and maneuverability.  (Haven't flown personally this info is 2nd hand)

 

[OOPMan 1,266]

Thanks Nal :-)

[Rock18 10]

 

 

• XP-75 (Tier 7 US Heavy Fighter) - An...interesting plane.  While it's fun to fly I find it difficult to justify flying it.  At the very least, don't premium (or if you do not API) ammo on it; 10x.50 cals can take out a huge amount of profitability.  Doesn't really compete well in the tier 6 heavy meta (read the Me-210 which still dominates).  Fun to wreck face on other planes though as most don't expect it to put out as much hurt as it does, Serviceable speed and altitude, but lacks a good escape mechanic from other tier 7's.

 

Assume you meant the Me 410, Tier Vi German Heavy.  The Me 210 is tier 5 alpha gift plane.  Not sure what you're getting at about not fitting the tier 6 heavy meta  (did you mean tier 7?).

 

Even though it's nominally a "heavy" fighter it's really more of a medium.  Has very good speed for its tier and even good maneuverability for its class, just not good altitude performance.  Its optimum zone goes all the way to the deck though, so it's good in a secondary cleanup role and for chasing down intruders and escapers.  Avoid head-to-heads against anything cannon armed, you'll give up too much hp before all your MGs are in effective range (the 4 synchronized cowling MGs have slightly greater range).

 

 

Like so many planes, it would be a lot better if we could still get 15v15 matches where it would be easier for it to play its niche.  In the current game though I'd call the XP-75 "On the Fence" because it gets owned by things like F7F.  It's fun to buzzsaw insta-zap somebody if you can catch them up close now and then.

 

 

• Ba.27M (Tier 3 CN Fighter) - Unknown

Meh.  Not a bad plane, just not a good plane either.  Pretty average in most categories but no real advantage in any one area so it doesn't fit either of the existing TnB/BnZ metas well.  Has to be played conservatively and opportunistically, which makes it annoying to fly esp. against higher tiers.  Meh credit earnings at Tier 3 and no point in training Chinese crew right now, so only recommended if you just can't resist the esoteric allure of its Italian/Chinese DNA.

 

 

• Ki-43-Ic (Tier 4 CN Fighter) - Unknown

Gud plane, tier 4 fun mode.  Even turnier than a Zero, OK guns, some burst speed/climb ability with boost for escape and short pursuits in the vertical.  You can swing around on EVERYTHING's tail and just park there and the 2x.50s will burn it down eventually.  Downsides are that it's very, VERY fragile if hit (though it's great at dodging and evading at least), and again no real point in training Chinese crews right now so it's something of a waste of crew XP.

 

 

• Yak-3RD (Tier 7 USSR Fighter) - unknown

OK.  Rocket booster and improved altitude make for a weird hybrid play style that more forgiving in a sense but also can require a higher than usual skill threshold.  If you're not careful it's fast enough to get you into but always not out of trouble, especially at altitude.  Single hub-mount 23mm cannon is OK when it hits but requires good marksmanship to hit a maneuvering enemy and can be frustrating.  Great for finishing kills already weakened by teammates.  Becomes a sitting duck without boost, but at least it cools pretty quickly.

 

Single cannon = less dmg = less XP = less credit earning.  Primarily a trainer, not usually a great credit grinder unless you have a great game.  Can be frustrating to fly in the small, IL-saturated matches common at upper tiers now.  Like so many, this plane would be a ton better if 15v15 were still the norm and it had a better niche to fill.

 

 

Bonus tip:  XF4U-1 and Mustang I are some of the most profitable to run right now because they do good dmg and repairs/ammo are cheap.  The games tend to be bigger too, giving you more potential victims in each match.

[Nalyk 8]

And yes I did mean the 410.  Whoops!

 

And by the tier 6 meta I meant this:  Tier 6 seems to be where the vast majority of NA server games take place (at least more full...ish games).  The Xp-75 as a tier 7 has difficulty competing against the "power planes" that get the most play at tier 6 (read the 109 series, Me 410, and the P-51A).  Beyond tier 7, it really depends what you're up against and how much the enemy lets you get away with.  If you manage to get in good gun time you're set, but if someone rides you, there's not much you can do even at tier 6.  In pretty much any situation, I'd rather be flying the Me 410.  Unless I know I'm going to be facing someone slower and with a lower altitude band than me at tier 7.  So essentially what you said about it.  It's fun to fly, but given that you get singled out too easily currently and it's difficult to escape because of smaller match sizes it's not quite as fun as it could be.  

 

That said, it really is pretty entertaining to watch people go "OOOOOH SHIIIIT" when you open up on them though when they'er not expecting it.  I've managed a few head ons in it but iirc, it's usually against either lower health opponents that don't know any better (read heavies that got cocky) or light fighers that just don't know any better.  The plane was a gift to me fyi.  I have fun flying it and I'm glad I have it and it's certainly fun to derp around in, but I would probably classify it as on the fence as well.

 

 

 

Edit: for clarity

[OOPMan 1,266]

Not sure I should say anything about the Chinese Mosquito. I bought one, played a game or two in it and then forgot about WoWP again.

[Rock18 10]

Not sure I should say anything about the Chinese Mosquito. I bought one, played a game or two in it and then forgot about WoWP again.

 

Well there's the Chinese P-51K for that matter too.  I've heard it's nice but there was no way I was sinking $90 into this game.

 

I thought this thread was meant to discuss the persistently available ones anyway, right?

[Captain_F22ACE 77]

Tier 8 premiums and some tier 3-4's may show up in 1.8 judging from 1.7 patch notes.........

[haglar 170]

One problem "WOWP"

[Captain_F22ACE 77]

One problem "WOWP"

Solution: don't worry about it and don't play it; however, the actual issue due to WoWP not doing well is mainly Persha design and WGHQ management.

[OOPMan 1,266]

Tier 8 premiums and some tier 3-4's may show up in 1.8 judging from 1.7 patch notes.........

 

Yeah, I saw that. 

[Nalyk 8]

With how few players there are, and the re-introduction of 2 tier spreads the XP-50 is kind of a wash currently at least in my experience.  At tier 6 it's a beast.  At 7 it is alright, though I feel the 410 edges ahead in it's ability to deliver more ummm...facemeltyness?  At 8 it's cannon fodder...especially if you're alone.  If you're decent though you can give an alright account for yourself at 8, but don't expect miracles.    

[OOPMan 1,266]

Tier difference in WoWP is a lot bigger deal than it is in WoT as a general rule, unless you're a really good player.

[Nalyk 8]

Yup. The above is a very true statement.

[Johnny_Wishbone 12]

Yet in warplanes, as in tanks, the key is to know when to be a sneaking, backstabbing coward and when to charge in, fangs out.

[Nalyk 8]

I'm trying to decide whether or not I'm excited for the release of tier 8 premiums.  Which will happen I'm guessing in the near future...

 

Regardless, I'm hoping in some ways that the lowbies don't simply buy a tier 8 like they do in WoT (but I'm not holding my breath).  I'm also hoping it won't further stratify the population into one tier.

 

I guess best case scenario, people get better (optimism, give me a break) because tier 8 can be brutal, and they learn from their mistakes.  Or they keep throwing themselves head first into a brick wall and quit playing after dropping $50 on a tier 8 plane they don't know how to fly.  Though, I feel the later scenario is much more likely...

[OOPMan 1,266]

I don't think the introduction of Tier 8 Premiums will matter much on NA. The population is so low that the only place one can find battles is tier 5 or against bots. The latter is actually kinda relaxing. Pity it doesn't pay well.

[Antiledo 64]

I can't think of a more damning statement about WoWP than that... enjoying battle against bots compared to standard battles.

[OOPMan 1,266]

I can't think of a more damning statement about WoWP than that... enjoying battle against bots compared to standard battles.

 

Yup :-)

[Nalyk 8]

Ouch.

 

Good for WG!  They found the single player campaign...in an mmo....oh wait...

 

Man.  WoWP really is one huge boondoggle isn't it?  Oh well.  At least I still have fun.  Onward to tier 8! *grind grind*

[OOPMan 1,266]

At least I still have fun. 

 

How??????

[Antiledo 64]

There is this weird curve in WoWP. At one end, you have the standard pubby match where everything is chaotic and stupid like multi-roles hitting GTs and high-altitude planes trying to TnB on the deck. Nobody can hit anything and you either hard-carry 1v5 against people who can't fly worth a damn or else you auto-lose if you make any mistake whatsoever. Not fun.

 

Then as the relative skill increases, you get these pubby matches where everyone is more or less playing the right role in their plane, they can actually hit things, and the game approaches fun. Imagine this happening a year ago though and the matches are full.

 

Finally the player skill increases even more and people are in flights coordinating with each other and clearing tails, etc. At this point, you realize you have to fly certain planes or else you can't compete and you end up in a "competitive" environment where everyone flies a 410 or 262 and the match is determined by who wins the initial head-on. Then you go right back to boring gameplay.