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Finished with first Version, Reply to this message to get your Stats. Please tell me if the numbers seem weird in places.

 

Also Any name ideas anyone, i tend to be terrible that that

 

My Rating:

 

Over all: 2471.

 

By Tank:

IS-7 3617.

Comet 3273.
E 75 3153.
Object 268 3090.
E 25 3060.
IS-8 3039.
STA-1 3026.
FCM 50 t 2983.
SU-122-44 2962.
T54E1 2961.
Object 140 2926.
T-62A 2878.
Type 64 2776.
$Failed 2777.
Object 704 2775.
T25 AT 2765.
Cromwell 2757.
AMX AC mle. 48 2689.
AMX 50 100 2677.
Tiger II 2673.
T71 2668.
AMX AC mle. 46 2659.
$Failed 2613.
T-54 2606.
KV-4 2596.
ARL 44 2594.
T34 2577.
IS-6 2575.
Sturer Emil 2554.
T29 2545.
T37 2544.
Nashorn 2543.
Type 5 Chi-Ri 2531.
T32 2514.
IS-3 2512.
M18 Hellcat 2504.
T-150 2494.
AT 15 2487.
ARL V39 2478.
AMX M4 mle. 45 2469.
ELC AMX 2462.
Type 4 Chi-To 2460.
AMX 13 90 2459.
Type T-34 2456.
KV-2 2445.
KV-3 2445.
Type 5 Ke-Ho 2440.
T28 2431.
Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm 2428.
M36 Jackson 2418.
Tiger I 2378.
FV304 2376.
Jagdpanzer IV 2375.
ISU-152 2341.
StuG III Ausf. G 2342.
IS-2 2319.
T-34 2319.
S35 CA 2317.
Cruiser Mk. III 2316.
M5 Stuart 2316.
T28 Prototype 2307.
VK 30.02 (M) 2304.
Bishop 2304.
T-43 2296.
Pz.Sfl. IVc 2287.
T25\/2 2285.
T69 2283.
Type 58 2278.
T-44 2272.
AT 7 2266.
Pz.Kpfw. II Luchs 2265.
Churchill Gun Carrier 2231.
M24 Chaffee 2230.
IS 2220.
M7 2216.
Hummel 2212.
Type 3 Chi-Nu 2179.
Marder 38T 2174.
Vickers Medium Mk. I 2154.
Churchill VII 2135.
AMX 12 t 2131.
Type 98 Ke-Ni 2120.
M10 Wolverine 2091.
T-50 2086.
$Failed 2086.
VK 36.01 (H) 2078.
KV-85 2069.
AMX 13 75 2055.
Pz.Kpfw. III\/IV 2034.
MT-25 2026.
M4A3E2 Sherman Jumbo 2019.
SU-85 2013.
Black Prince 2003.
Valentine 2002.
Cruiser Mk. II 1993.
Churchill I 1985.
T-26 1947.
Marder II 1945.
M4 Sherman 1940.
Pz.Kpfw. 35 (t) 1933.
Crusader 1910.
M5A1 Stuart 1901.
SU-152 1889.
SU-100 1879.
KV-1 1876.
M3 Lee 1875.
MS-1 1868.
M2 Medium Tank 1867.
Pz.Kpfw. 38 (t) 1866.
T40 1856.
Cruiser Mk. IV 1846.
BDR G1 B 1844.
Hetzer 1842.
T18 1836.
S-51 1827.
Grille 1818.
B1 1815.
Sturmpanzer II 1813.
SU-18 1813.
Lorraine 155 mle. 50 1809.
AMX 40 1796.
LTP 1787.
T-28 1776.
T82 1762.
M3 Stuart 1753.
T1E6 1749.
SU-26 1748.
M37 1745.
Churchill III 1721.
SU-85B 1719.
SU-5 1719.
Sturmpanzer I Bison 1716.
T-46 1708.
T57 1704.
BT-7 1699.
T21 1691.
Pz.Kpfw. I Ausf. C 1687.
Pz.Kpfw. II 1677.
Leichttraktor 1658.
Renault FT AC 1652.
M2 Light Tank 1651.
Pz.Kpfw. II Ausf. G 1649.
KV-13 1645.
D1 1637.
Pz.Kpfw. III Ausf. A 1633.
D2 1631.
Pz.Kpfw. III 1626.
SU-76 1625.
Wespe 1615.
Covenanter 1608.
BT-2 1608.
G.W. Panther 1605.
Hotchkiss H35 1605.
M8A1 1590.
AMX 38 1582.
T2 Medium Tank 1536.
Cruiser Mk. I 1526.
M41 HMC 1497.
AT-1 1490.
Renault FT 1467.
Renault FT 75 BS 1463.
Renault NC-31 1452.
T1 Cunningham 1450.
Light Mk. VIC 1346.
T67 1331.
Universal Carrier 2-pdr 1309.
T7 Combat Car 1281.
Renault UE 57 1281.
FCM 36 Pak 40 1114.

 

Ooohh! Do mine!

 

Also, I have a name: the X-Ten. (ik it's crap, it's all i could come up with)

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Ooohh! Do mine!

 

Also, I have a name: the X-Ten. (ik it's crap, it's all i could come up with)

Ten-X then sounds better :)

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Out of town for a while, will probably be home tomorrow, Can't do any thing without my desktop :(

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3P33N rating

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TAXE - Tier Analysis X Efficiency

 

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Version 0.3 (stating to number them now to avoid confusion):

 

I am back and have a basically finished version i think... It relies on a WN8ish system for the final conversion from tier 10 values into a single number so the final numbers should correspond reasonably well to your WN8 (but be bit lower since its based in tier 10s)

 

Upsides when compared to WN8:

  • LTs and stuff don't get extreme values (padding at least like this shouldn't be a problem)  ---- My 4th best tank by WN8 is a LT but in this the LTs are not near the top
  • Tanks that have a smaller distribution of performance shouldn't result in bad WN8 for good players. ie. if it takes a really Unicum player to do 1.5X the average getting 1.5X the average dmg will result in unicum stats
  • tanks like M60 should auto get higher values for doing even average dmg automatically (this applies to other tanks too, if more good players play a tank you will get higher stats from doing average in it, the reverse is also true)

Warning: the sample size used is only 1K players to conserve time and to more easily get the data

-also this system is not as accurate for lower performance players (lowest 10-25% i would guess) very few of these players actually have many tier 10s or battles and the formulas is mostly based on the performance of above average players since i used the people with the most battles in the server, this is intended.

 

Please Look at your data for the various vehicles and tell me if you are getting values that seem not in tune with your performance in that vehicle.

 

My Stats:

 

Overall:

2068.48

 

By Tank:

IS-7     3656.19
E 25     3243.98
Comet     2966.13
FCM 50 t     2905.98
Object 268     2834.86
STA-1     2809.76
IS-8     2696.36
Object 140     2684.45
SU-122-44     2672.59
T-62A     2627.21
E 75     2599.84
T25 AT     2589.15
Waffentrager auf Pz. IV     2490.92
AMX AC mle. 48     2474.27
T54E1     2440.61
AMX AC mle. 46     2420.63
T29     2419.66
Object 704     2388.83
KV-4     2374.09
Cromwell     2355.67
IS-6     2293.47
AMX 50 100     2273.96
T28     2270.42
T-54     2259.53
Type 64     2256.57
Tiger II     2245.52
T71     2239.55
Rhm.-Borsig Waffentrager     2221.7
Type T-34     2215.28
T32     2187.25
Nashorn     2174.7
ARL 44     2171.35
M5 Stuart     2156.31
T37     2145.89
Bishop     2140.09
ARL V39     2135.83
T34     2121.72
Type 5 Ke-Ho     2115.01
S35 CA     2102.55
KV-3     2081.29
AMX M4 mle. 45     2080.51
ELC AMX     2076.68
M18 Hellcat     2065.64
M36 Jackson     2064.47
Sturer Emil     2044.88
FV304     2044.4
Tiger I     2029.78
StuG III Ausf. G     2028.66
Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm     2023.65
Jagdpanzer IV     2023.64
AT 15     2013.03
IS-3     1992.36
T28 Prototype     1967.76
KV-2     1943.14
T-150     1938.54
Type 5 Chi-Ri     1922.63
Type 4 Chi-To     1900.2
Pz.Kpfw. II Luchs     1886.
AMX 13 90     1882.4
T-43     1871.85
Churchill Gun Carrier     1865.03
AT 7     1854.77
ISU-152     1853.53
T25\/2     1851.62
T-34     1844.32
IS     1829.73
Pz.Sfl. IVc     1801.15
T-44     1800.22
M24 Chaffee     1792.14
IS-2     1791.05
Cruiser Mk. III     1789.44
Vickers Medium Mk. I     1780.04
T69     1755.43
Hummel     1748.92
Panzerjager I     1744.41
M10 Wolverine     1729.44
Type 58     1722.7
Marder 38T     1681.17
Pz.Kpfw. III\/IV     1673.24
AMX 12 t     1672.34
Valentine     1658.94
Churchill VII     1652.17
SU-85     1652.14
Type 98 Ke-Ni     1640.01
VK 30.02 (M)     1637.75
M7     1625.6
T-50     1620.8
Marder II     1613.4
Cruiser Mk. II     1602.91
Type 3 Chi-Nu     1578.89
KV-85     1567.42
VK 36.01 (H)     1565.95
Churchill I     1555.1
AMX 13 75     1545.25
M4 Sherman     1543.49
Black Prince     1528.38
KV-1     1508.82
M4A3E2 Sherman Jumbo     1498.2
Hetzer     1482.54
Sturmpanzer II     1467.1
Pz.Kpfw. 35 (t)     1466.14
Pz.Kpfw. 38 (t)     1466.01
BDR G1 B     1462.96
M3 Lee     1455.76
M2 Medium Tank     1450.1
MT-25     1448.04
MS-1     1448.
SU-100     1442.04
Crusader     1425.46
SU-152     1425.02
T-26     1418.89
T40     1400.51
AMX 40     1395.27
SU-26     1392.97
T18     1386.27
T-28     1382.47
B1     1380.76
Grille     1376.71
BT-7     1372.06
M5A1 Stuart     1356.21
SU-5     1344.37
M37     1337.42
M3 Stuart     1332.51
S-51     1325.43
Churchill III     1319.
Pz.Kpfw. II     1317.8
LTP     1309.23
SU-85B     1305.59
Cruiser Mk. IV     1304.64
Lorraine 155 mle. 50     1292.72
SU-76     1288.25
T82     1267.94
KV-13     1267.62
SU-18     1260.28
T-46     1257.72
Sturmpanzer I Bison     1256.6
Leichttraktor     1231.75
T57     1231.3
AT-1     1228.88
Pz.Kpfw. III     1225.55
Pz.Kpfw. III Ausf. A     1221.4
Wespe     1213.69
BT-2     1203.
M2 Light Tank     1192.34
AMX 38     1190.97
Covenanter     1168.79
T1E6     1165.39
M8A1     1148.52
T2 Medium Tank     1140.37
D2     1115.38
M41 HMC     1113.06
T1 Cunningham     1099.4
D1     1085.22
Pz.Kpfw. I Ausf. C     1077.77
Renault FT     1072.98
T21     1064.5
Cruiser Mk. I     1027.52
Renault FT AC     1014.58
G.W. Panther     1013.87
Universal Carrier 2-pdr     993.089
Renault FT 75 BS     972.909
Hotchkiss H35     966.4
Pz.Kpfw. II Ausf. G     908.764
Renault NC-31     822.676
Light Mk. VIC     792.457
T67     758.612
T7 Combat Car     734.438
Renault UE 57     648.676
FCM 36 Pak 40     564.928

 

I will probably have a vote or something for the name, or just pick one if i really like it

 

Will reply to comments in a bit, working on stuff :(

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Please tell me if you see something that seems off in the ratings per vehicle
 
The overall is weighed based on the tier and number of games played in each tank so your low tier tank's ratings should have little affect on your overall (100 tier 1 games have same value as 1 tier 10 game)

 

Had to split the replies up because it didn't work as a single response :(

 

Not expecting very high numbers for me, but I'm still curious ... :)

 

1706.79
 

Type 95 Ha-Go      3695.79
Bat.-Chatillon 25 t      2668.28
M2 Medium Tank      2327.12
A-43      2170.3
T-54      2153.5
T32      2120.7
ARL 44      2093.09
Lorraine 40 t      2091.58
Centurion Mk. 7\/1      2065.68
Jagdpanzer E 100      2031.41
Leopard 1      2023.53
T54E1      2013.33
FV4202      2009.63
T57 Heavy Tank      2004.39
Object 140      1929.32
M3 Lee      1927.21
Centurion Mk. I      1896.55
IS      1895.04
Tiger II      1856.18
E 25      1845.31
VK 30.02 (D)      1834.02
AMX M4 mle. 45      1819.11
Object 416      1807.42
AMX 50 100      1806.53
T-34      1800.55
Leopard Prototyp A      1794.31
Indien-Panzer      1793.78
T29      1786.58
A-44      1785.76
BDR G1 B      1778.44
Valentine AT      1768.35
M103      1739.92
Cromwell      1727.27
T69      1726.26
IS-6      1708.07
E 75      1707.87
KV-3      1678.77
T1 Heavy Tank      1635.49
T-150      1632.8
Tiger I      1617.66
Type 98 Ke-Ni      1614.4
Jagdpanzer IV      1613.17
Comet      1611.59
IS-2      1603.3
Crusader      1602.5
M6      1591.09
Jagdtiger      1583.08
IS-7      1574.14
IS-3      1567.5
Pz.Kpfw. III\/IV      1556.04
S35 CA      1553.08
Renault UE 57      1551.79
Panzerjager I      1548.79
IS-8      1543.96
D1      1517.8
StuG III Ausf. G      1512.58
VK 30.01 (D)      1495.23
Vickers Medium Mk. I      1480.75
Marder 38T      1466.58
Hetzer      1465.37
Marder II      1458.69
SU-76      1447.86
M10 Wolverine      1443.65
Churchill VII      1441.56
AMX 12 t      1435.45
KV-85      1427.66
FCM 50 t      1420.24
KV-1      1413.84
M3 Stuart      1412.22
Cruiser Mk. III      1402.27
AMX 13 75      1400.4
M36 Jackson      1390.19
Pz.Kpfw. III      1382.53
T67      1382.32
Covenanter      1382.24
T-50      1376.
Type 58      1369.13
AT-1      1355.21
T18      1353.34
ELC AMX      1349.64
Matilda      1346.99
M18 Hellcat      1345.4
T34      1341.79
Pz.Kpfw. III Ausf. A      1341.71
T-26      1340.71
AMX 38      1336.63
T-28      1334.38
M37      1319.82
M5 Stuart      1317.01
Renault FT 75 BS      1314.43
VK 36.01 (H)      1311.95
M2 Light Tank      1311.49
T40      1310.01
T57      1307.76
AMX 13 90      1303.35
T21      1298.26
Lorraine 39L AM      1285.21
T25 AT      1282.37
SU-18      1281.89
M8A1      1278.62
Churchill I      1278.22
Vickers Medium Mk. II      1271.57
Pz.Sfl. IVc      1271.18
Pz.Kpfw. 38 (t) n.A.      1270.9
T110E4      1266.71
Renault Otsu      1262.99
Leichttraktor      1261.59
T71      1255.35
T-46      1247.75
Somua SAu 40      1242.61
AMX 13 105 AM mle. 50      1242.5
Pz.Kpfw. I Ausf. C      1227.17
Jagdpanther      1225.79
Pz.Kpfw. 38 (t)      1225.07
M3 Light      1218.06
Pz.Kpfw. II      1214.76
AT 2      1208.16
T82      1207.07
Renault NC-31      1205.36
AMX 13 F3 AM      1200.4
Vickers Medium Mk. III      1199.18
T2 Medium Tank      1193.06
Pz.Kpfw. 35 (t)      1189.44
Renault FT AC      1183.78
M5A1 Stuart      1180.82
SU-85B      1176.24
Jagdpanther II      1170.28
Renault FT      1166.59
MS-1      1157.87
ARL V39      1142.99
T1 Cunningham      1142.77
T25\/2      1138.51
T28      1137.28
T30      1118.05
Type T-34      1110.78
Nashorn      1106.94
M7      1101.48
Universal Carrier 2-pdr      1080.36
Cruiser Mk. II      1025.11
AMX 40      983.879
Type 2597 Chi-Ha      939.691
110      924.733
LTP      898.336
T28 Prototype      875.628
Hotchkiss H35      874.886
Alecto      815.912
TOG II*      810.398
Cruiser Mk. IV      800.652
Pz.Kpfw. I      781.148
MT-25      727.371
Lorraine 155 mle. 50      672.387
T1E6      512.709
Vickers Mk. E Type B      431.263


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2478.27
 

T-15      3874.1
Bat.-Chatillon 25 t      3622.84
T-54      3539.49
STB-1      3470.94
AMX 13 90      3111.54
Type 61      3019.91
Lorraine 40 t      2949.24
T20      2918.02
Pz.Kpfw. II Luchs      2915.64
Leopard Prototyp A      2874.1
Object 140      2862.87
M3 Stuart      2820.52
Aufklärungspanzer Panther      2812.95
Leopard 1      2787.49
T-44      2777.92
E 100      2775.95
Comet      2758.76
E 50 Ausf. M      2753.92
Waffentrager auf Pz. IV      2732.53
Object 268      2718.02
ISU-152      2710.31
ARL V39      2707.28
T29      2677.31
AMX 50 100      2673.15
VK 28.01      2611.05
M4A3E8 Sherman      2602.62
Waffentrager auf E 100      2601.83
AMX M4 mle. 45      2598.24
SU-152      2556.16
T57 Heavy Tank      2555.29
T-43      2547.82
Type 4 Chi-To      2544.07
SU-100      2535.64
Centurion Mk. I      2527.11
M18 Hellcat      2504.49
M22 Locust      2482.04
VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. B      2477.02
STA-1      2469.28
VK 30.01 (P)      2460.06
IS-3      2414.81
KV-2      2407.71
Chi-Ni      2406.54
VK 16.02 Leopard      2387.87
SU-100M1      2383.26
ARL 44      2379.24
Cromwell      2336.34
IS      2323.6
Tiger (P)      2317.98
Sturer Emil      2309.88
Indien-Panzer      2300.08
VK 30.02 (D)      2296.97
Rhm.-Borsig Waffentrager      2289.42
E 25      2281.77
T54E1      2253.13
Dicker Max      2235.6
VK 30.02 (M)      2212.05
Jagdpanzer E 100      2208.46
8,8 cm Pak 43 Jagdtiger      2201.11
Object 704      2190.24
SU-100Y      2188.36
VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A      2154.71
BDR G1 B      2136.33
VK 30.01 (D)      2120.48
KV-85      2112.
Lowe      2106.04
Type 5 Chi-Ri      2102.95
Type 1 Chi-He      2042.46
M103      2029.06
T32      2026.84
E 50      2024.44
S35 CA      2019.39
B1      2005.21
Pz.Kpfw. III      2003.9
SU-85B      1995.51
T25\/2      1973.23
M4 Sherman      1972.14
T110E5      1948.95
Type 3 Chi-Nu      1944.27
AMX AC mle. 46      1926.16
VK 30.01 (H)      1918.51
Pz.Sfl. IVc      1916.93
AMX 13 75      1913.26
Jagdtiger      1913.14
T69      1905.73
T34      1881.61
Crusader      1877.17
Pz.Kpfw. III\/IV      1854.84
AMX 38      1846.27
Spahpanzer Ru 251      1835.14
Nashorn      1821.17
Type 97 Chi-Ha      1800.79
M7      1797.84
SU-85      1788.32
Panther      1776.88
KV-1      1766.8
AMX 12 t      1765.42
T23E3      1747.14
T1 Cunningham      1743.87
Somua SAu 40      1735.45
SU-76      1728.51
Panther II      1722.08
E 75      1708.77
T-150      1707.9
Tetrarch      1707.14
T67      1706.77
Covenanter      1698.96
T71      1669.67
Jagdpanzer IV      1661.92
M3 Lee      1647.46
Renault UE 57      1626.65
Tiger II      1626.1
ELC AMX      1624.33
FCM 36 Pak 40      1622.06
AMX AC mle. 48      1598.61
KV-13      1563.37
Tiger I      1544.49
AMX 40      1539.22
Pz.Kpfw. II      1537.19
StuG III Ausf. G      1535.06
Cruiser Mk. IV      1514.09
Hetzer      1512.88
T-28      1505.01
Jagdpanther      1500.82
Light Mk. VIC      1489.01
M2 Light Tank      1481.12
M8A1      1467.14
T1 Heavy Tank      1444.42
T-46      1444.15
M5 Stuart      1444.06
Jagdpanther II      1433.22
M6      1432.64
Pz.Kpfw. 38 (t) n.A.      1420.12
D2      1419.14
T21      1413.72
VK 36.01 (H)      1402.87
Marder 38T      1387.27
Marder II      1381.46
Panzerjager I      1344.88
M2 Medium Tank      1340.42
Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. H      1332.47
Pz.Kpfw. III Ausf. A      1315.36
T82      1308.21
M37      1300.2
Universal Carrier 2-pdr      1295.37
Cruiser Mk. III      1287.94
AT-1      1281.88
D1      1267.24
T57      1260.39
Pz.Kpfw. 35 (t)      1250.29
Pz.Kpfw. 38 (t)      1247.3
T-26      1208.56
Loyd Gun Carriage      1199.36
Leichttraktor      1190.72
T18      1180.08
MS-1      1176.72
T2 Medium Tank      1161.77
Pz.Kpfw. 38H 735 (f)      1154.37
T7 Combat Car      1113.59
KV-3      1111.94
Renault FT      1102.59
Renault FT AC      1010.25
Hotchkiss H35      917.282
Vickers Medium Mk. I      883.768
Pz.Kpfw. I Ausf. C      827.308
Pz.Kpfw. I      787.234
Renault Otsu      706.125


Would be interested to see mine....

 

1721.91
 

Object 140      2748.31
T-54      2577.67
Bat.-Chatillon 25 t      2468.92
T-44      2222.4
IS-7      2009.62
Type 97 Te-Ke      1980.86
T-43      1976.7
Rhm.-Borsig Waffentrager      1892.93
TOG II*      1836.92
Sturer Emil      1815.55
AMX 12 t      1806.47
Lorraine 40 t      1795.38
VK 36.01 (H)      1700.37
E 25      1602.87
ELC AMX      1596.62
AMX 13 90      1580.65
AT 7      1559.
Pz.Kpfw. III\/IV      1470.08
M10 Wolverine      1449.89
M18 Hellcat      1427.86
KV-1      1413.84
T1 Cunningham      1413.16
AMX 40      1380.34
Alecto      1351.81
AT 8      1351.18
T1 Heavy Tank      1350.81
M3 Lee      1336.56
T26E4 SuperPershing      1335.15
Nashorn      1333.78
AMX 38      1333.65
Pz.Kpfw. III      1323.73
T-28      1316.87
Leichttraktor      1314.3
Hetzer      1313.46
Sturmpanzer II      1301.34
Panzerjager I      1289.24
T-150      1286.3
VK 30.01 (H)      1278.63
AT-1      1276.07
Pz.Kpfw. II Luchs      1261.3
Pz.Sfl. IVc      1256.01
IS      1245.16
Marder II      1244.79
Pz.Kpfw. III Ausf. A      1244.78
SU-18      1239.69
Sturmpanzer I Bison      1237.16
M3 Stuart      1229.79
T34      1208.28
SU-26      1199.07
T-46      1192.27
T40      1190.3
KV-3      1185.27
Cruiser Mk. II      1179.93
M2 Medium Tank      1177.59
T82      1169.78
Renault FT      1169.23
MS-1      1168.62
T-26      1159.68
IS-3      1151.36
T2 Medium Tank      1146.44
KV-13      1145.54
Pz.Kpfw. II      1135.91
T67      1124.98
Light Mk. VIC      1116.94
M5 Stuart      1103.03
KV-85      1093.48
Pz.Kpfw. I Ausf. C      1086.07
AT 2      1079.89
Type 5 Ke-Ho      1079.71
Grille      1069.64
Valentine AT      1043.9
Loyd Gun Carriage      1041.04
KV-2      1034.3
G.W. Tiger (P)      1023.09
T18      1016.37
Type 98 Ke-Ni      1007.71
Vickers Medium Mk. III      995.237
Sexton II      991.94
Cruiser Mk. IV      971.566
Birch Gun      951.063
G.W. Panther      948.945
Universal Carrier 2-pdr      939.447
Cruiser Mk. III      913.873
Hotchkiss H35      908.529
IS-8      902.713
Vickers Medium Mk. I      861.111
KV-4      850.705
Vickers Medium Mk. II      844.341
T-60      839.037
Durchbruchswagen 2      829.659
Hummel      792.122
LTP      771.095
AT 15      726.726
Marder 38T      714.757
Renault Otsu      711.643
Type 95 Ha-Go      706.544
Renault NC-31      703.649
G.Pz. Mk. VI (e)      647.668
T7 Combat Car      614.044
T-70      545.478
Type 3 Chi-Nu      505.915
Pz.Kpfw. I      382.445


Ooohh! Do mine!

 

Also, I have a name: the X-Ten. (ik it's crap, it's all i could come up with)

 

1251.51
 

M4A3E8 Sherman      1544.41
T20      1517.55
T29      1385.56
M3 Lee      1371.4
T1 Cunningham      1370.39
T1 Heavy Tank      1347.13
Hetzer      1334.27
M10 Wolverine      1327.13
M37      1319.42
Panzerjager I      1300.04
M6      1291.77
M18 Hellcat      1276.17
M7      1266.9
Leichttraktor      1256.77
M4 Sherman      1242.75
M5 Stuart      1241.52
M3 Stuart      1235.76
Marder II      1225.7
M24 Chaffee      1152.43
T40      1126.62
T2 Medium Tank      1123.3
T82      1115.12
M2 Light Tank      1093.08
Pz.Kpfw. 35 (t)      1089.98
T57      1076.82
IS-6      1075.8
M41 Walker Bulldog      1026.75
M2 Medium Tank      1012.96
T37      993.52
M7 Priest      932.738
Vickers Medium Mk. I      905.591
Vickers Medium Mk. II      827.893
M41 HMC      788.932
LTP      592.473
T7 Combat Car      540.206
Renault Otsu      414.074


Id like to see mine

T-54      2859.07
Jagdpanzer E 100      2852.49
Object 140      2659.
T54E1      2568.29
WZ-131      2566.43
T57 Heavy Tank      2522.53
Bat.-Chatillon 25 t      2491.24
T32      2436.42
Jagdtiger      2425.7
T29      2396.97
8,8 cm Pak 43 Jagdtiger      2331.6
IS-7      2319.64
Object 416      2205.78
FCM 50 t      2181.54
M48A1 Patton      2179.26
M41 Walker Bulldog      2179.13
T69      2176.3
M46 Patton      2150.78
Jagdpanther      2101.01
Comet      2049.65
SU-152      2023.59
Type 64      2016.46
Crusader 5.5-in. SP      1964.28
FV304      1948.01
T49      1929.13
Centurion Mk. I      1874.84
M24 Chaffee      1858.54
KV-2      1854.47
SU-100      1853.87
S35 CA      1832.27
Jagdpanther II      1813.89
A-43      1809.81
Jagdpanzer IV      1804.44
SU-85B      1799.89
AMX 13 90      1794.25
D1      1786.34
T-34-85      1784.9
VK 36.01 (H)      1773.64
M4A3E2 Sherman Jumbo      1766.31
SU-100Y      1700.87
T-34      1700.
AMX 13 75      1697.04
IS-8      1666.96
T-70      1648.16
G.W. Panther      1609.36
Covenanter      1579.6
Cruiser Mk. II      1574.37
Dicker Max      1561.59
T-34-3      1558.13
Pz.Kpfw. 38 (t) n.A.      1539.62
Alecto      1535.02
M26 Pershing      1531.77
Somua SAu 40      1526.29
M3 Lee      1515.67
Cromwell      1503.5
Churchill III      1492.14
Cruiser Mk. IV      1481.82
Valentine AT      1480.47
Hetzer      1465.96
AMX 40      1460.37
SU-85      1460.32
Pz.Kpfw. I Ausf. C      1448.17
Cruiser Mk. III      1447.43
AMX 13 F3 AM      1441.46
SU-5      1434.51
Crusader      1434.08
Pz.Kpfw. 38 (t)      1433.5
M2 Medium Tank      1428.2
B1      1422.37
M7      1419.74
A-20      1407.07
T67      1402.3
G.W. E 100      1401.04
IS-3      1396.98
G.W. Tiger      1392.37
IS      1391.9
AMX 38      1386.28
LTP      1381.93
M18 Hellcat      1378.63
Sturmpanzer I Bison      1374.53
Marder 38T      1369.24
Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. H      1366.66
Pz.Kpfw. III      1364.28
Lorraine 39L AM      1359.95
T-28      1359.4
KV-1      1354.32
D2      1349.71
StuG III Ausf. G      1349.23
M5 Stuart      1343.3
T20      1341.55
T-50      1340.64
BT-7      1337.63
KV-5      1333.18
T25\/2      1333.16
AMX 105 AM mle. 47      1331.26
Type 3 Chi-Nu      1321.63
M4A3E8 Sherman      1321.34
T2 Light Tank      1318.99
M7 Priest      1317.19
Matilda      1313.34
M2 Light Tank      1301.52
ELC AMX      1299.64
Lorraine 40 t      1299.56
AMX 12 t      1299.2
Hummel      1298.65
M37      1293.13
SU-76      1288.02
T1E6      1283.36
Pz.Kpfw. II      1280.19
Panzerjager I      1265.04
AT-1      1264.97
T-46      1264.01
SU-18      1260.43
Marder II      1260.24
SU-26      1256.32
Vickers Medium Mk. I      1254.98
Leichttraktor      1253.58
VK 16.02 Leopard      1237.68
BT-2      1235.88
Wespe      1228.09
Pz.Kpfw. II Luchs      1225.88
M4 Sherman      1222.04
T82      1215.91
M3 Stuart      1205.87
Grille      1201.14
T-26      1195.86
Pz.Kpfw. III Ausf. A      1188.41
T-150      1180.66
Renault UE 57      1165.55
T57      1164.98
M5A1 Stuart      1146.69
T2 Medium Tank      1143.95
T1 Cunningham      1137.28
Vickers Mk. E Type B      1127.78
T18      1105.23
Tetrarch      1104.51
MS-1      1101.43
G.Pz. Mk. VI (e)      1098.01
Pz.Kpfw. 35 (t)      1094.19
Renault FT      1076.31
Hotchkiss H35      1019.91
Type 2597 Chi-Ha      945.02
BDR G1 B      934.976
T40      925.246
Sexton II      917.892
Renault FT 75 BS      837.207
MT-25      791.739
SU-122A      758.22
T7 Combat Car      736.902
T-127      711.244
Light Mk. VIC      599.822


Mine too!

 

Perhaps you can get this into an excel format available for download, so we're able to do our own?

Can't :( changing it too much on a regular basis and this is just for testing, will try to get it integrated into a website when i am done so it can be seen easily
 
1768.77
 

Bat.-Chatillon 25 t      2562.66
Comet      2547.22
WZ-132      2476.5
E 100      2444.
E 50 Ausf. M      2419.69
LTTB      2366.67
M41 Walker Bulldog      2364.66
E 50      2308.81
Lorraine 40 t      2284.12
M48A1 Patton      2262.39
M46 Patton      2189.45
T26E4 SuperPershing      2168.17
WZ-131      2162.11
Leopard Prototyp A      2118.43
T-25      2113.75
Panther      2098.83
Spahpanzer Ru 251      2038.42
AMX 12 t      2034.51
T20      2021.17
T-62A      2006.49
T-44      1989.75
M26 Pershing      1986.91
Waffentrager auf E 100      1968.03
Type 3 Chi-Nu Kai      1967.35
T37      1941.06
AMX 13 90      1932.14
T49      1927.32
T-54      1921.66
8,8 cm Pak 43 Jagdtiger      1904.85
Pz.Kpfw. III      1900.02
Pz.Kpfw. II Luchs      1891.16
Type 64      1881.09
Waffentrager auf Pz. IV      1878.47
BDR G1 B      1838.41
ARL 44      1827.75
Panther II      1824.03
Rhm.-Borsig Waffentrager      1768.42
M10 Wolverine      1758.09
T57 Heavy Tank      1752.31
AMX 38      1739.28
Tiger I      1726.32
T32      1719.25
AT 2      1713.15
Object 140      1702.86
FCM 50 t      1681.83
E 25      1680.55
ELC AMX      1677.19
Tiger II      1671.32
E 75      1667.93
M24 Chaffee      1667.31
Cromwell      1646.83
T-150      1640.04
VK 30.02 (M)      1581.26
Nashorn      1580.07
SU-122-44      1574.31
M4A3E8 Sherman      1549.42
Pz.Kpfw. I Ausf. C      1517.72
IS-6      1503.97
Type 97 Chi-Ha      1499.8
SU-85B      1498.53
AMX 13 75      1487.42
IS      1484.17
Sturer Emil      1474.17
Tetrarch      1469.33
Pz.Sfl. IVc      1466.68
Renault FT      1466.
AMX 50 100      1464.91
VK 36.01 (H)      1463.38
KV-1      1441.26
Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. H      1440.71
AMX 50 120      1437.14
Type 1 Chi-He      1414.45
T25\/2      1408.27
T-28      1406.63
T54E1      1404.93
T29      1393.73
T-43      1387.24
VK 30.01 (H)      1381.87
M12      1380.66
Churchill I      1377.96
IS-3      1360.49
M37      1357.42
KV-13      1355.23
SU-76      1330.32
T-46      1323.27
Pz.Kpfw. 38 (t)      1299.43
T1 Cunningham      1284.97
AT-1      1263.69
M18 Hellcat      1262.35
Pz.Kpfw. III Ausf. A      1247.25
Pz.Kpfw. 38 (t) n.A.      1245.8
Marder II      1240.74
Leichttraktor      1238.41
Panzerjager I      1234.59
Sturmpanzer I Bison      1233.9
M3 Lee      1228.96
Covenanter      1217.55
VK 16.02 Leopard      1207.65
Hetzer      1205.35
M4 Sherman      1204.42
T57      1202.92
M44      1202.49
T67      1199.52
Pz.Kpfw. 35 (t)      1192.96
Pz.Kpfw. II      1188.75
M8A1      1185.23
T-70      1179.4
T21      1177.58
M3 Stuart      1177.01
T2 Medium Tank      1176.18
M5 Stuart      1175.61
MS-1      1169.38
T40      1141.62
T-26      1137.39
T71      1124.63
M41 HMC      1111.6
KV-85      1102.08
M2 Medium Tank      1100.61
T69      1065.01
Hotchkiss H35      1062.68
T82      1054.4
Loyd Gun Carriage      1053.32
M2 Light Tank      1027.93
M4A3E2 Sherman Jumbo      1019.19
T-60      987.279
KV-3      985.387
Matilda      962.48
Vickers Medium Mk. II      961.957
Marder 38T      930.449
T18      927.048
Vickers Medium Mk. III      892.088
Vickers Medium Mk. I      882.921
TOG II*      868.907
M7      848.813
Renault NC-31      840.678
T7 Combat Car      837.985
Cruiser Mk. III      820.034
M7 Priest      816.864
Type 3 Chi-Nu      809.324
MT-25      681.924
Chi-Ni      679.432
Churchill III      578.758
T1E6      536.063
Vickers Mk. E Type B      490.062


 

Please sir. If you are still doing them that is.

 
1442.76
 

AMX 12 t      2232.05
ELC AMX      2009.24
SU-100      1909.06
Renault FT 75 BS      1852.21
IS      1810.27
SU-152      1748.76
B1      1723.03
ISU-152      1691.63
IS-3      1672.49
T-34      1618.82
Pz.Kpfw. I Ausf. C      1591.79
AMX 40      1591.64
BT-2      1571.01
T29      1553.68
M7      1552.19
M10 Wolverine      1529.28
T110E5      1521.56
T32      1513.93
M103      1489.45
IS-6      1484.58
Pz.Kpfw. III      1463.44
T1 Cunningham      1461.6
Hetzer      1457.98
BDR G1 B      1452.75
A-20      1438.71
AMX 38      1423.61
T-50      1417.45
Covenanter      1413.22
KV-85      1408.54
SU-85      1400.06
S-51      1396.47
M5 Stuart      1395.28
M2 Light Tank      1391.93
M18 Hellcat      1378.11
T67      1373.71
Object 704      1366.86
StuG III Ausf. G      1365.06
Cruiser Mk. II      1363.57
M6      1359.74
VK 16.02 Leopard      1354.96
T-28      1353.53
BT-7      1348.76
T1 Heavy Tank      1336.69
Sturmpanzer I Bison      1336.22
M8A1      1327.22
T69      1323.89
T18      1322.04
Pz.Kpfw. 38 (t) n.A.      1321.67
Pz.Kpfw. 38 (t)      1317.27
Renault FT      1316.48
Tetrarch      1316.39
Cruiser Mk. III      1316.12
Grille      1312.14
T2 Light Tank      1312.14
Pz.Kpfw. II      1309.03
MT-25      1300.86
KV-2      1290.95
Pz.Kpfw. III\/IV      1283.63
T71      1278.83
KV-1      1275.1
Cruiser Mk. IV      1274.1
MS-1      1267.77
SU-76      1260.94
SU-26      1253.91
M3 Lee      1253.31
Wespe      1252.83
Loyd Gun Carriage      1250.05
Alecto      1246.21
SU-18      1244.95
AT-1      1233.88
Panzerjager I      1229.18
SU-85B      1227.33
M37      1208.61
Marder II      1206.07
T-46      1206.04
Leichttraktor      1202.33
Pz.Kpfw. 35 (t)      1200.56
Pz.Kpfw. III Ausf. A      1196.09
Pz.Kpfw. I      1189.88
M2 Medium Tank      1189.53
VK 36.01 (H)      1180.74
T40      1180.01
Valentine II      1174.89
Pz.Kpfw. II Luchs      1170.27
M3 Stuart      1162.07
FCM 50 t      1159.59
Renault Otsu      1133.56
SU-5      1125.71
T57      1122.16
T82      1118.35
T2 Medium Tank      1109.14
Marder 38T      1104.39
Pz.Kpfw. II Ausf. G      1102.7
Valentine      1100.74
Valentine AT      1098.7
Vickers Medium Mk. III      1095.34
M7 Priest      1091.63
T-60      1090.37
Renault FT AC      1076.7
Matilda      1061.33
T-26      1046.98
Renault NC-31      1031.13
D2      971.817
Type 2597 Chi-Ha      965.074
AT 2      964.354
S35 CA      957.709
T-70      952.097
T21      924.607
VK 20.01 (D)      885.705
Sexton II      849.266
D1      846.631
Pz.Kpfw. S35 739 (f)      845.49
T-127      829.737
Renault UE 57      828.994
FV304      777.726
Vickers Mk. E Type B      770.284
M5A1 Stuart      648.962
IS-8      611.067
LTP      430.009


3P33N rating

EP3N rating

EPEEN rating

P33N rating

3PEN rating

3-PEEN rating

 

TAXE - Tier Analysis X Efficiency

 

pls r8 me m8

 

1642.92
 

IS-7      2237.6
AMX 12 t      2081.57
AMX 13 90      1991.03
A-43      1947.17
AMX M4 mle. 45      1930.39
ARL 44      1916.65
IS      1898.55
Object 416      1896.92
T-34-85      1878.02
Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. D      1865.72
A-44      1843.05
AMX 13 75      1842.21
Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. H      1839.16
Ram II      1818.18
M4A3E8 Sherman      1748.54
T-34      1739.78
Cruiser Mk. IV      1726.8
M4 Sherman      1693.77
M3 Lee      1682.89
IS-8      1670.5
BDR G1 B      1664.13
KV-85      1663.03
AMX 38      1657.43
KV-1      1653.35
AMX 40      1647.04
MT-25      1644.19
T21      1636.48
ELC AMX      1594.81
IS-3      1578.82
BT-2      1576.11
M4A3E2 Sherman Jumbo      1552.67
M5 Stuart      1535.13
B1      1513.22
SU-76      1452.97
T2 Light Tank      1442.7
Pz.Kpfw. II      1441.94
M7      1430.59
Hetzer      1429.56
SU-85      1427.66
T-28      1423.92
VK 30.01 (H)      1408.66
Covenanter      1406.33
KV-4      1404.8
M8A1      1404.25
SU-122-44      1403.38
T-150      1394.37
T1 Cunningham      1392.85
Panzerjager I      1389.22
Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. A      1385.56
T1 Heavy Tank      1362.1
Crusader      1358.49
BT-7      1356.83
T40      1352.35
M2 Light Tank      1348.78
SU-85B      1345.2
AT-1      1325.81
M37      1316.73
Marder II      1310.93
D2      1309.11
M3 Stuart      1293.42
Pz.Kpfw. 35 (t)      1291.26
T-46      1284.36
Pz.Kpfw. III Ausf. A      1273.25
T-60      1273.03
SU-18      1270.97
M2 Medium Tank      1264.59
T-80      1253.97
Leichttraktor      1248.01
T82      1241.84
T57      1228.47
KV-3      1224.44
M7 Priest      1217.58
T-26      1204.76
Cruiser Mk. III      1197.84
Renault FT      1195.64
Marder 38T      1181.98
Pz.Kpfw. II Ausf. G      1179.54
Loyd Gun Carriage      1179.39
T2 Medium Tank      1176.59
Vickers Medium Mk. III      1173.44
T67      1170.57
Vickers Medium Mk. II      1169.99
T18      1146.73
MS-1      1114.07
Pz.Sfl. IVc      1096.56
SU-26      1077.89
D1      1070.38
Valentine      1062.92
Matilda IV      1058.24
Matilda      1053.02
Type 97 Chi-Ha      1039.51
Cruiser Mk. I      1034.97
Renault FT 75 BS      1034.92
Pz.Kpfw. I Ausf. C      994.926
T20      984.358
M18 Hellcat      982.537
Lorraine 39L AM      966.44
Cruiser Mk. II      966.036
Light Mk. VIC      965.098
Hotchkiss H35      944.42
Renault FT AC      921.221
Type 1 Chi-He      913.028
Vickers Medium Mk. I      898.301
Durchbruchswagen 2      886.77
VK 30.02 (M)      869.764
KV-2      848.439
Chi-Ni      779.338
Sexton II      757.351
Nashorn      681.917
T1E6      679.444
Renault Otsu      649.401
T-70      640.129
G.Pz. Mk. VI (e)      630.475
LTP      582.04
Pz.Kpfw. I      524.891
TOG II*      239.96

 
While going through these i found some padding potential i should have seen alot earlier...
basically if you play low tier games well it will give you great stats because other people who had games that good at that level ended up as unicums at tier 10 but what it doesn't take into acount is that your not going to improve like those unicums did.
Its not too bad because it requires a ridiculous amount of low tier games because of how its weighed(or not having any high tier games) making a padder very easy to spot but if your not looking at their stats in detail it might be a bit deceiving,
 
 
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If you know anyone(or are someone) who has low tier tanks that they seal club in please tell me, I would like to see if that results in inflated stats (seal clubbing tanks that aren't normally seal clubbed in are especially good). Feel free to PM me if you don't want to post publicly.

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i know one guy with 6000+ battles in t67 (tier 5 us TD) , i don`t remember his nickname, will PM it to you tonight when i get home

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If you know anyone(or are someone) who has low tier tanks that they seal club in please tell me, I would like to see if that results in inflated stats (seal clubbing tanks that aren't normally seal clubbed in are especially good). Feel free to PM me if you don't want to post publicly.

HamXT my T-34 reroll with majority of games@t5, not a large sample, but still strenk clebing.

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While going through these i found some padding potential i should have seen alot earlier...

basically if you play low tier games well it will give you great stats because other people who had games that good at that level ended up as unicums at tier 10 but what it doesn't take into acount is that your not going to improve like those unicums did.

 

If you're using the same formulas that you posted earlier, it's not really padding in the usual sense. Because you have a floating intercept, bad performances in low tier tanks are over-rewarded and good performances are under-rewarded. For example, doing no damage at all in the T-28 is the equivalent of doing 1300 damage in a T-62A, but the equivalent of doing 3k damage in the T-62A is 1600 damage in the T-28.

 

Of course, this is still not a good result if you want to accurately measure cross-tier performance. It's impossible to generate good expected values without correcting for recency. WN8 uses a hack that mostly works, but it's far from perfect. Ideally you use interval data, but in that case it's very difficult to get sufficient data for low tier tanks. A floating intercept also needs a lot more data than a zero intercept for a reliable result. It's an unsolved problem.

 

Note that even the tier 10 tanks have recency problems. Some of them are much more likely to be played earlier in a career, and this biases the results. It's not as strong an effect as the tier gap, but it's often stronger than the actual differences between the tanks. As a result, the T-62A is a much better padder than the STB-1 in your metric, just as it was in WN8.

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Reply to this message to get your Stats.

 

I'm curious how my numbers will match up to expected values - I'm a super inconsistent player, especially across tank classes.

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i know one guy with 6000+ battles in t67 (tier 5 us TD) , i don`t remember his nickname, will PM it to you tonight when i get home

 

HamXT my T-34 reroll with majority of games@t5, not a large sample, but still strenk clebing.

 

Ty for the info guys.

 

If you're using the same formulas that you posted earlier, it's not really padding in the usual sense. Because you have a floating intercept, bad performances in low tier tanks are over-rewarded and good performances are under-rewarded. For example, doing no damage at all in the T-28 is the equivalent of doing 1300 damage in a T-62A, but the equivalent of doing 3k damage in the T-62A is 1600 damage in the T-28.

 

Of course, this is still not a good result if you want to accurately measure cross-tier performance. It's impossible to generate good expected values without correcting for recency. WN8 uses a hack that mostly works, but it's far from perfect. Ideally you use interval data, but in that case it's very difficult to get sufficient data for low tier tanks. A floating intercept also needs a lot more data than a zero intercept for a reliable result. It's an unsolved problem.

 

Note that even the tier 10 tanks have recency problems. Some of them are much more likely to be played earlier in a career, and this biases the results. It's not as strong an effect as the tier gap, but it's often stronger than the actual differences between the tanks. As a result, the T-62A is a much better padder than the STB-1 in your metric, just as it was in WN8.

I am not using the same formulas as before but the example you mentioned the problem stems from 2 things first and harder to deal with, the correlation between the how well you do in tier 4 and how well you do at tier 10 isn't very strong though it gets stronger as you go up the tiers(hence the lower weight given to lower tiers) and this is resulting in flatter best fit lines that aren't really that accurate at the lower tiers. The second reason for the problem is of course that the data is from the top players by battles played and not exactly the best way to represent noobs as very few of them are below average and the data being from best fit lines also plays a roll since it can't curve down to (0,0). I originally planed to not care for how accurate this system is at the below average range and at low tiers and the best fit lines seemed to work decent at that but have changed my mind and am now planning to change the curve to be a log or something. I tried increasing the weight number of battles had at the low tier and it helped a bit but didn't fix the problem completly

 

As for the recency thing, I kind of hoped using the top players by battles and using some hacks would result in good enough results and it kind of works but only at high tiers and there are exceptions.

 

I am going to try using top 50K players by battles on EU for a recent version, hope that solves that solves the low tier problem and makes higher tiers a bit better.

I'm curious how my numbers will match up to expected values - I'm a super inconsistent player, especially across tank classes.

Gona Have to wait for about a week for the version based on recent version :(

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Im curious, what sort of numbers are you getting for the padders?

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I'd be up for this. Most of my recent games are from the Leo 1, and then all sorts of assorted T8/10 tanks. I don't think that the Leo has as much padding potential, due to the higher expected value.

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UPDATE: I have been busy for the last week or so but i have had time to set up data collection of the top 300K players on the EU server to get data so i can measure change over time. Unfortunately i ran into some ram problems and a bug in my code and ended up wasting quite a bit of time. So i should get a good version in a week or two that uses data based on recent data if the data is good enough after that amount of time. Can't reply to comments, computer working on collecting data leaving little room to run anything else since because of the RAM problems

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Ok i got the interval data from top 300K player on EU server, and here are some of the graphs that resulted. The time i waited is less than a week(collection took some time making the effective time difference between the two times i collected the data lower) so on most of the graphs the average number of battles per player is very low(# of battles = Min(battles in first tank, Battles in second tank)) though given the number of players and 34 comparisons being made(one per T10) the variance should work it self out for some of the categories at least

 

on the top of the graphs it says something like "M26 Pershing : T110E4 of:4" the first tank is the tank on the x axis the second is the one on the y while of:4 represents the stat being tracked on the graph so

1 = spotting

2 = wins

4 = dmg

5 = Frags

6 = defence

 

Note: the size of the dots on the graphs represents the number of battles the player had so you will see a lot of very small dots that are very far from the line because they are based on 1 or battles 

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4Kgy_Y2LJJ2dWt2WS0tXzNiaWs&usp=sharing

 

Ignore the one that uses red dots, that one is old

 

So, the dmg graph are already looking solid even with the relatively low number of average battles. the spotting and frags also seem like they would be ok for a lot of the higher tier tanks if you use comparisons between all the tier 10s instead of 1 as is shown in the graphs. Wins i think should be good given enough time because the high variance caused by the team means more data is needed for it to be accurate.

 

Problems:

as the graph for Churchill Gun carrier shows not many people play it and play tier 10s this is obviously the case for a lot of the lower tiers but it also happens to some higher and mid tier tanks

I think the best solution is to get more data based on currently active people rather than people with most overall battles and from that and go through an intermediate tank along with comparing tanks to tier 10s so for a tier 2 you might compare it to a bunch of mid tier tanks and then compare those tanks to the tier 10s to get the values if you can't get enough people who play the tier 10 and the tier 2(you still use data from the tier 2 to tier 10 comparison). this would only be done for the tanks its necessary for so basically the very low tier and tanks like the Churchill gun carrier which very few people play.

 

Defense seems to be having major problems in that most people only had 0 defence average over the period of time the data was collected on one or both of their tanks which makes sense since they only had a couple games but it means that the line of best fit is basically completely unreliable. The solution for this can be just wait until people have had enough games to get good defense values on both tanks. But something else that might work is treat all the games played by people who played both the tanks being compared as if they were played by one person(you take the average defense points per player and give that player weight based on Min(battles in Tank1, battles in tank 2) so each player has equal weight in both sets hopefully giving a good result

 

as for creating the function for all the tanks it is going to take a while and i want to do it over night since i need my computer durring the day, will post the values i get tomorrow along with how much data went into each one

 

Tell me if you would like to see a specific comparison between tank(doesn't have to be between a tier 10 and a non tier 10 ad two tanks will work)

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Defense seems to be having major problems

 

Yes. I have maybe 5-10x as much interval data as you do (although I'm throwing away the low-XP stuff), and I still can't get a good floating-intercept regression out of defense. Fixing the intercept to zero gives reasonable results so I'm not too bothered. It's the least important of the five parameters anyway.

 

Spots is the next worst, oddly enough. I thought winrate and frags would be noisier. I think it's because spots are strongly playstyle-sensitive, and people tend to have very different playstyles in different tank classes. Holding the intercept for zero for the first few passes worked out ok.

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Yes. I have maybe 5-10x as much interval data as you do (although I'm throwing away the low-XP stuff), and I still can't get a good floating-intercept regression out of defense. Fixing the intercept to zero gives reasonable results so I'm not too bothered. It's the least important of the five parameters anyway.

 

Spots is the next worst, oddly enough. I thought winrate and frags would be noisier. I think it's because spots are strongly playstyle-sensitive, and people tend to have very different playstyles in different tank classes. Holding the intercept for zero for the first few passes worked out ok.

 

I tried averaging the defense both sides using the same weights for each player and and the results aren't too good from just cross checking stuff so definitely need a larger sample size to may by get anywhere.

 

by the way can you by any chance give me your interval data, would save me quite a bit of waiting. 

 

As for spotting and other stuff i am getting reasonably good numbers for the sample size as a check i went from tank -> tank 2 -> tank 3 and compared that to going from tank 1 -> tank 3 and if the data is good the two numbers should be close

 

so i got 1.8001278864463546819251205872623997205 multiplier for going from E4 to obj 140 for spotting

0.936021896753785658930670571399313956 for going from 140 to M26 Perching

so 1.8...*0.9... = 1.68495911867090019670846909640516082

 

while going from E4 to M26 Perching directly gets 1.683219818792958140585161510700509

 

(note i didn't go through a large number of these but all of the ones i did go through were very close and i just used this as a rule of thumb)

 

results for defense aren't nearly as close :(

 

now these three data sets should mostly be separate since your looking at players who played E4 and 140 for the first, people who played 140 and M26 for the second and E4 and M26 for the third (tiring to have this make sense to everyone). so them getting numbers that are so close even for spotting is a great sign

 

also a pitfall i ran into when calculating the line of best fit is that the common method of calculating the line of best fit isn't symmetric because it tries to minimize distance from line to points in the y direction only(this is apparently the major reason i was getting terrible intercepts in the first overall data set. i did the hack thing of doing 1/2((x,y)line of best fit + the inverse of the(y,x)line of bestfit) but i think there is a method that minimizes orthogonal distance which for this is probably what would be best.

 

This link explains it well, i probably should have known this beforehand, probably mentioned in math class at some point:

http://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/22718/what-is-the-difference-between-linear-regression-on-y-with-x-and-x-with-y

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