BPX 287 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Rapes T8s & below with hesh all day. The nerf from test server didn't make it any less fun. http://wotreplays.eu/site/1459035#fiery_salient-bpx-charioteer CandyVanMan and just_started 2 Link to post Share on other sites
SchnitzelTruck 3,600 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Is the gun handling as bad as the Challenger? I rage sold that and am waiting for slow as downs syndrome WG to give out tourney gold so I can free exp past it. Pleeeeeeease tell me it handles slightly better than a 105derp. Link to post Share on other sites
BPX 287 Author Share Posted December 26, 2014 Vert stab isn't mountable but dispersion on track movement is fine (0.28 to rhm 0.22) and turret is too slow to notice dispersion on turret movement. Unfortunately, the aim time is bad even with gld, food and crew skills. Link to post Share on other sites
SFC_Storm 58 Share Posted December 26, 2014 In your opinions will it surely be nerfed? Like is it Hellcat OP or just OP in good hands? I am just sick of waiting to long to get things like 183`s and other OP tanks before they are nerfed. If its a sure thing to be nerfed I will hurry and get it before the 3 patch nerf period. Link to post Share on other sites
CandyVanMan 526 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Rapes T8s & below with hesh all day. The nerf from test server didn't make it any less fun. http://wotreplays.eu/site/1459035#fiery_salient-bpx-charioteer That ram kill, so good. I think might have to get this thing... Link to post Share on other sites
Pocktio 730 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I reaaaally want one. But the Challenger is making me want to stab puppies. ThomChen114 1 Link to post Share on other sites
just_started 4 Share Posted December 28, 2014 This tank so far for me is worse than the Challenger. Gun bloom and aim time is very bad and there is no option for a vstab. Lack of gun depression really kills the tank I could peek some hills at least in the challenger in this its like a chinese medium. Hopefully the upgraded guns make this tank better. Link to post Share on other sites
just_started 4 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Wow just unlocked the 105 this tank is a riot to play now completely different tank. If you have free xp skip the 20pdr its garbage. The hesh ammo and apcr ammo is a perfect match for this tank! The last 125k in this tank will be an easy grind. Link to post Share on other sites
Pocktio 730 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Anyone else had time to run this? Is the speed and 105 worth the dep, poor hp and gun handling? Link to post Share on other sites
just_started 4 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Best game yet so far with the 105 I'm not even sure this tank is balanced lol. Link to post Share on other sites
Rexxie 10,789 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Anyone else had time to run this? Is the speed and 105 worth the dep, poor hp and gun handling? Yes. Very much yes. It takes some getting used to, but the tank is incredible. Im not sure if incredible is enough to be worth grinding the mediocre Achilles and cancer Challenger, but on its own the tank wows me. Reminds me of some kind of cross between a Rhm-150 and a 416. Somewhat derpy gun and clumsy/fragile chassis, but great hardstats and the gun and very mobile. Currently one of the best T8 TDs, up there with the JP2. Pocktio 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Orrie 1,017 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Wargaming need to get it's shit together and stop adding obvious OP tanks. Link to post Share on other sites
Rexxie 10,789 Share Posted December 31, 2014 If they didnt add this one tank this would be the most pathetic line ever released GoodEyeSniper14 1 Link to post Share on other sites
WaterWar 2,075 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I'm greatly considering stopping the grind at the Charioteer as it looks like the best tank in the line. The tier IX and X tanks just doesn't appeal to me, whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites
Orrie 1,017 Share Posted December 31, 2014 If they didnt add this one tank this would be the most pathetic line ever released Maybe they should learn to add tanks that are actually balanced. All the previous lines they've added have been pure mistakes. WT line especially. Link to post Share on other sites
SWG112 299 Share Posted December 31, 2014 At least this is not so blatantly OP. It still takes some skill to leverage a glass cannon like that. It's a sort of downtiered PTA with better DPM. Unless you're spammimg HESH fulltime that is. Then it becomes opopopopopopopop Link to post Share on other sites
Gharirey 992 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Wargaming need to get it's shit together and stop adding obvious OP tanks. That has nothing to do with incompetence and everything with marketing. Every line WG releases features op and up tanks by design! It simply isn't in WG economical interest to release balanced lines. Op tanks are the hooks that make customers pay real money. Release a bland line of perfectly balanced tanks and people won't cry "gimme, gimme". What makes a line profitable is a well thought through mixture of annoyingly underwhelming tanks and extremely desirable ones. Usually you will find the latter at tier VIII and/or X while the former seem to drop most commonly at tier VII. Tier VII is the perfect place to introduce a crappy tank (Challenger, A-44, Sturer Emil, ...) because at this tier the required xp is starting to get considerable (meaning the grinds become painful enough to incite people to spend real money in order to free-xp past them). Moreover, most paying customers reach tier VII whereas many never get a tier X. Link to post Share on other sites
SWG112 299 Share Posted January 1, 2015 That has nothing to do with incompetence and everything with marketing. Well, too extreme imho. Their balance department is definitely iffy. Link to post Share on other sites
Pocktio 730 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Well, too extreme imho. Their balance department is definitely iffy. Yes. I just can't fathom the logic of how bad the Challenger is, but I can see how it genuinely fits with purposefully making a vehicle soooo shit that people buy some gold to skip. I can't think of any other reason. Fuck WG for the things they do. Unless they are incompetent, the only way you'd introduce the Chally in this state is if you barely play the game. Any player worth a damn can immediately see the Chally is literally a worse in every aspect Comet. Why introduce anything that has literally no benefit? Oh right. Freexp. Link to post Share on other sites
m00h 11 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I will also stop at charioteer and build some crew on it, pretty nice tank. Performing just slightly below 3k average damage at the moment and hope to crush the mark again, still no one close on vbaddict. Link to post Share on other sites
Pollenz 14 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Rammer, GLD and... ¿? Just played 6 battles (3 pretty bad), and Im not sure if use Optics, Vents or Binos. Any suggestion? Rayderx 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Kostis_Larsson 22 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Are these the correct numbers...? because camo level after shot is way too high. Stats from here: http://www.wotinfo.net/en/camouflage?country=all&vehicletype=td&tier=8&showLines=30 Link to post Share on other sites
Rexxie 10,789 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Rammer, GLD and... ¿? Just played 6 battles (3 pretty bad), and Im not sure if use Optics, Vents or Binos. Any suggestion? I personally use Rammer, Optics, Vents and am running 90% winrate. Makes it pretty great at vision control, which is a nice thing to add to your repertoire. GLD is a bit of an oddity to me - the bloom is really bad, but the aimtime is fairly low. I'm not sure how effective that makes GLD. Link to post Share on other sites
Pocktio 730 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Are these the correct numbers...? because camo level after shot is way too high.Stats from here: http://www.wotinfo.net/en/camouflage?country=all&vehicletype=td&tier=8&showLines=30Wow that camo isn't actually bad. It's actually quite solid, what the hell. With camo paint & 100% camo you're looking at a sneaky bastard. Link to post Share on other sites
sahtila 95 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yeh movement camo seems pretty good. Shooting camo is clearly bugged, either someone in wg fucked up or web page uses wrong data. Link to post Share on other sites