7 Steps to Saving Credits even with a NON-PREM account

[Sir_Havoc 42]

Hi Peeps,

 

My YouTube focuses on how people can improve their game. I recently had a few members ask me about the things  they could do to save credits, this happened shortly after I had posted a thread all about 'is WOT a pay to play?' this thread was hugely constructive and some of the things mentioned their along with the questions of my clan mates inspired me to make this guide.

 

I really hope it can help you guys!!!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZXWspezBh8&list=UUYn6nC-RSPDBKmJOV65SNGw

[lisiate 40]

Overall I thought this was a good, thorough guide, especially for newer players. You do wander between saving and earning credits a bit though.

 

The seven points for those who didn't watch the video:

1. Buy things on sale in bulk.

2. Clean out your depot from time to time (but keep modules that can be used on other tanks).

3. Play only daily doubles on tough tanks to reduce credit bleed.

4. Use a credit grinder, a premium tank if you can afford it, or a tier V or VI you love and do well in.

5. Check Missions and IMs.

6. Make every shot count.

7. Learn hitzones, so 6 happens more without using premium ammo. 

 

Some comments:

 

 * At 2:30 you talk about modules when you mean Equipment. I don't think modules ever go on sale.

 * I think you missed the most important money saver of all - use gold to demount complex equipment. At 10 gold a pop it's a steal. 

 * Your discussion of how credits are earned at the end probably should have been first, so the rationale behind points 6 & 7 is made clear.

 

Again, a nice solid guide though.

[edger2020 188]

Solid guide.

 

One mistake you made: you do not earn 50% more credits with premium account, but much more - you did not included upkeep cost. For example, if you earn 20 000 credits no prem that's 30 000 with premium, but than subtract 10 000 for repair and ammo you earned 10 000 no prem but 20 000 with premium.

 

Additional tip: buy not only equipment/consumables on discounts, but tanks too. There are often 30% discounts on t6 and t7 and 50% on t5.

[Golem501 173]

Pretty nice video Havoc! GJ.

 

Modules used to go on sale... I don't think they do anymore.

 

@Edger2020 -> yeah the 50% is on gross earnings.

[EchelonIII 1,255]

lol@using less prem ammo.

 

No, just no.

Prem ammo does more damage

Prem ammo ensures that RNG doesn't fuck you over

Prem ammo help you win games

 

All three of those increase your damage output and carrying ability, increasing your income a fair bit more than refusing to use prem.

[Pocktio 730]

lol@using less prem ammo.

 

No, just no.

Prem ammo does more damage

Prem ammo ensures that RNG doesn't fuck you over

Prem ammo help you win games

 

All three of those increase your damage output and carrying ability, increasing your income a fair bit more than refusing to use prem.

 

Using less is good. It saves you money and makes you learn weak spots.

 

Also note that 'less' does not mean dogmatically refuse to shoot gold, even at targets that need it.

[Victrix 2,299]

Good guide, but sometimes you need to use gold ammo, and running a 20 HEAT, 3 HE, and everything else AP layout on the T54 makes things easier. Enough HEAT to be effective against stubborn German and Russian tier 10s, but also enough AP to be effective against regular 9s and 10s which don't need HEAT to pen frontally. 

 

Furthermore, shooting gold will not make you a better player, but it will definitely improve your statistics. It will not make every shot be an insta pen (you have to aim a little bit most of the time) but it will reduce the chance of bouncing when you need to pen.

 

Spending a little bit of time on tournament teams or weekday warfare is very worthwhile if you spend that gold on premium time. Premium time is a must tbh, but you don't have to spend a dime out of your own wallet to get some.

[csbassplayer 56]

Good guide, but sometimes you need to use gold ammo, and running a 20 HEAT, 3 HE, and everything else AP layout on the T54 makes things easier.

TMW you realized your WoT has been haxxed!

[Victrix 2,299]

TMW you realized your WoT has been haxxed!

Wat

[EchelonIII 1,255]

Using less is good. It saves you money and makes you learn weak spots.

 

Also note that 'less' does not mean dogmatically refuse to shoot gold, even at targets that need it.

 

I shoot prem even at weakspots because I take no chances.

[Inciatus 1,124]

lol@using less prem ammo.

 

No, just no.

Prem ammo does more damage

Prem ammo ensures that RNG doesn't fuck you over

Prem ammo help you win games

 

All three of those increase your damage output and carrying ability, increasing your income a fair bit more than refusing to use prem.

Hesh excluded, the only premium round I can think of that does more damage is the French 105 on the ARLs.

[HapcDave 36]

Hesh excluded, the only premium round I can think of that does more damage is the French 105 on the ARLs.

 

I think that he meant that it 'does more damage' in that it reduces your chance to RNG bounce in some cases and thus allows more damaging shots.

[weesh 669]

The seven points for those who didn't watch the video:

1. Buy things on sale in bulk.

2. Clean out your depot from time to time (but keep modules that can be used on other tanks).

3. Play only daily doubles on tough tanks to reduce credit bleed.

4. Use a credit grinder, a premium tank if you can afford it, or a tier V or VI you love and do well in.

5. Check Missions and IMs.

6. Make every shot count.

7. Learn hitzones, so 6 happens more without using premium ammo. 

 

It takes 17 minutes to say that?

 

The video is excellent in the first couple of minutes because you speak quickly, clearly, and with high density of good information.  But maybe you can cut out the sections where you are thinking between points?

That would give you a chance to collect your thoughts between points and keep the density of content high.  

 

Thanks for making newbie videos.  

[Inciatus 1,124]

I think that he meant that it 'does more damage' in that it reduces your chance to RNG bounce in some cases and thus allows more damaging shots.

I feel like that falls under the RNG is less likely to fuck you over catagory.

[monjardin 1,014]

Spending a little bit of time on tournament teams or weekday warfare is very worthwhile if you spend that gold on premium time. Premium time is a must tbh, but you don't have to spend a dime out of your own wallet to get some.

That approach is counter productive if you aren't on a team that consistently makes good earnings. Skirmishes bleed credits because (a) you're normally slinging gold and (b) don't earn any credits. I think of skirmishes as converting time and credits to gold. I purposely don't have a Pz 1C in my garage (Cruiser IV FTW) because that thing will burn through over a million credits in a group stage firing obligatory gold rounds.

[MacusFlash 2,270]

8. Use HE shells (medium and big guns) to finish tanks with ~100HP. It could save your HP and then reduce repair cost. 

[csbassplayer 56]

Wat

 

That's the same ammo split I use on that tank.

[KaiKai 55]

1) log in on NA

2) ???

3) profit

[bremen68 18]

_{Lot of good info in the video.}

 

_{It absolutely fascinates me how folks are always running short of credits.}

 

_{I run probably 98% of the time on a standard account, 25K+ games and have never had an issue with running short of credits for repairs or ammo.  This particular issue is all about discipline.}

 

_{It comes down to managing your funds.  Tanks, repairs, modules, consumables, and ammo cost credits what you have to decide is, do I have the funds to buy right now?  There are needs and there are wants.  You need ammo, you need repairs.... The other stuff are wants.  (yes the other items can help gain more credits, but they are still not NEEDED to run the game) Decide accordingly.}

 

_{As stated in the video and by several folks above you need to find a tank that you can run well and grind that baby out.  If you can afford a premium tank and or premium time all the better.  If you get a free day of premium try and grind extra hard on that time with your go to tank.  Run the missions.  Yes this can get boring, but you'd be amazed how fast you can rip off a million credits.}

 

_{Something else to realize....  If you run higher tiers, shells get expensive, learn how to make them count.  Yes it's fun to go out and be a God of the battle field in your E-100, but if you are running on a standard account, you have to rack up the damage to make any credits and you will most likely lose in the long run.}

 

_{Patience is a virtue, run the mid to lower tiers, make good decisions and save credits.... Then you can buy the modules and upgrades so you can make MORE credits.  Take your time, think a head a bit and don't just buy everything because you just earned 1 credit more than the buying price.}

 

_{Follow the steps in this thread and you too can be sitting on millions of credits in no time.  Patience is your friend.}

 

 

[jokobet 217]

Buy a Type 64, play t6 skirmishes, make ~20-30k profit without premium (30-50 with premium account) every 5 minutes. Granted, you need a somewhat decent team for that but that shouldn't be too difficult.

[breeeze 446]

lol@using less prem ammo.

 

No, just no.

Prem ammo does more damage

Prem ammo ensures that RNG doesn't fuck you over

Prem ammo help you win games

 

All three of those increase your damage output and carrying ability, increasing your income a fair bit more than refusing to use prem.

 

Spamming premium ammo, which you seem to suggest here, is the worst thing you can do without a premium account. Losing 50k or more per battle means you need to at least play 2 games in a tier 8 premium for each regular game (up to 4:1 if you don't have premium tanks) which just isn't viable. It's all about using the right ammo type in the right situation and make use of the enemy weakspots.

 

If you want to maximize damage output and carrying ability at all cost you need a premium account.

[Qyygle 1]

Spamming premium ammo, which you seem to suggest here, is the worst thing you can do without a premium account. Losing 50k or more per battle means you need to at least play 2 games in a tier 8 premium for each regular game (up to 4:1 if you don't have premium tanks) which just isn't viable. It's all about using the right ammo type in the right situation and make use of the enemy weakspots.

 

If you want to maximize damage output and carrying ability at all cost you need a premium account.

I have to agree with breeeze here...

Unless you know what you're shoooting at, using all prem ammo is pretty much going to bleed you dry faster than anything else.

 

On the other hand, learning weakspots and where to shoot is probably the second best way to increase credits earning without a premium tank (the best way/investment for credits I'd say)

Me for example, I'm a terrible credit hog and refuse to shoot any prem ammo at all....

I like to think I make plenty of credits just fine

[Guardian54 80]

EchelonIII beat his usual record of trolling in this thread. I haven't seen anything quite so dumb since last night's pubs.

 

I agree with the OP's statements, but I suspect they could be boiled down to two things...

 

1. Learn to position

2. Learn to aim

[Rexxie 10,788]

Which, sadly boils down to one thing, git guder.

[EchelonIII 1,255]

Hesh excluded, the only premium round I can think of that does more damage is the French 105 on the ARLs.

Prem ammo opens up your target options and viable areas to shoot. That increases your damage potential and your winning ability

 

Spamming premium ammo, which you seem to suggest here, is the worst thing you can do without a premium account. Losing 50k or more per battle means you need to at least play 2 games in a tier 8 premium for each regular game (up to 4:1 if you don't have premium tanks) which just isn't viable.

It's all about using the right ammo type in the right situation and make use of the enemy weakspots.

 

If you want to maximize damage output and carrying ability at all cost you need a premium account.

 

Why on earth do players like to make it sound as if gold ammo means I don't aim at weakspots. Good players aim at weakspots whenever possible when using prem, but if prem allows me to ensure the kill because it means I can confidently aim center mass, then center mass it is.

If the amount of prem ammo you fire in a battle is enough to lose you 50k on a consistent basis, you are doing something terribly wrong.

Consider this: How much damage would 50,000 worth of credits of premium ammo get you?

4k damage in 122mm guns e.g. SU-122 and IS

3.3k in my T-54

8k damage in my 704

2.5k on T7 90mm guns e.g. T20 and Hellcat

You want to tell me how you do that kind of damage and fail to turn a profit?

 

That's how much damage you would do if you used 50,000 worth of credits, the credits you earn from that level of damage far outstrips any of the ammunition costs, those numbers up there are almost certainly HC medal standards.

If you are spending and losing 50k worth of credits, you are either wasting your shots or absolutely fucking suck at aiming.

 

 

I have to agree with breeeze here...

Unless you know what you're shoooting at, using all prem ammo is pretty much going to bleed you dry faster than anything else.

 

On the other hand, learning weakspots and where to shoot is probably the second best way to increase credits earning without a premium tank (the best way/investment for credits I'd say)

Me for example, I'm a terrible credit hog and refuse to shoot any prem ammo at all....

I like to think I make plenty of credits just fine

 

So basically you admit that the problem isn't that prem ammo is going to break your bank, but that you don't know how to shoot.