WoWS General Patch Discussion (currently 0.6.0)

[Jaegaer 180]

Texas is so hilarious if that happens - a small reconcilation from the otherwise preety bad tier VI MM.

[Psycodiver 101]

I had a game on Fault Line last night in my Colorado, I was against a Bogue and a T6 IJN carrier. I got stuck pretty much going west by myself and I "may" have trolled the CVs by calling them cute and 38 plane kills later they gave up. They did manage 2 dive bombs hits on me and to be fair if they actually came at me all at once and manually dropped their torps I may have took some real damage, but they  just sent one squad after another in a row to their doom. I didn't do much else in the game unfortunately since the enemy team went the center and east side and I got stuck behind the islands on the west side for to long

[Psycodiver 101]

Decided to take the NC out tonight, I haven't been in a tier 8+ ship in probably 2 months and I don't think I'll ever go back again, 2 games and its so bad. The lack of doing anything at all is amazing and so frustrating, we could have won one of the games if the BBs just pushed forward, all the enemy dds were dead and there was one cruiser left but we got capped out, then another the whole team lemming trained and standard battle, oh and the fire omg the fire, I landed 3 citadel hits on a broadside Yamato and he fired nothing but HE at me and I wasn't even bow on. I think I might just sell it, I've had the NC since January and its just not fun, I barely play it, the ship is great but the meta has seem to have gotten worse

[Mnemon 38]

Randoms got bad at the beginning of summer and then started to improve...and then got really bad beginning of this month. Solo queuing is just agonizing lately. I don't know what happened to the playerbase.

[Jaegaer 180]

Hm, don't know. I exclusively play DDs high tier and it is pretty neat. Few CVs to ruin your game, few CAs to radar your smoke, many victims (aka BBs) and many DDs to knife fight with. Pretty intense.

Low tier is pretty hilarious though - just got double double strike in my Clemson when 2 Königs and 2 Phoenix tried to rush me around the island... Due to the lower acc you really survive a lot longer ( full broadside of König at 4km missed me completely so I lived on with my 150 hitpoints...).

[bathoz 107]

I've been helping friends who are new to game, and let's just say, the Tachibana and Albany are actually monstrously fun. Didn't have a good ship for tier 3, so did the Tenryu. 

[SoliDeoGloria 417]

I need to teach dance to play. But maybe after I put in a couple hours of horizon 3.

[Rodrigopine 184]

10 hours ago, Psycodiver said:

Decided to take the NC out tonight, I haven't been in a tier 8+ ship in probably 2 months and I don't think I'll ever go back again, 2 games and its so bad. The lack of doing anything at all is amazing and so frustrating, we could have won one of the games if the BBs just pushed forward, all the enemy dds were dead and there was one cruiser left but we got capped out, then another the whole team lemming trained and standard battle, oh and the fire omg the fire, I landed 3 citadel hits on a broadside Yamato and he fired nothing but HE at me and I wasn't even bow on. I think I might just sell it, I've had the NC since January and its just not fun, I barely play it, the ship is great but the meta has seem to have gotten worse

I had two wretched games in the Atlanta last night that were pretty similar. Both were standard battles, bottom tier and my team was super passive staying near spawn. I tried to push up some but we all know how risky that is without support. And yes, it ended pretty much like you expected. Oh plus a detonation in one of those matches was the proverbial frosting on the cake.

On the flipside the other tier 8 plus matches last night were ok. Nothing fantastic but not awful either. Those were multi cap domination which seems to encourage pushing more than standard battle mode at higher tiers. They should probably just scrap standard battles for tier 8+ or come up with a different set of victory conditions because as it is right now standard battles tend to be super passive.

[OnboardG1 1,279]

11 hours ago, Psycodiver said:

Decided to take the NC out tonight, I haven't been in a tier 8+ ship in probably 2 months and I don't think I'll ever go back again, 2 games and its so bad. The lack of doing anything at all is amazing and so frustrating, we could have won one of the games if the BBs just pushed forward, all the enemy dds were dead and there was one cruiser left but we got capped out, then another the whole team lemming trained and standard battle, oh and the fire omg the fire, I landed 3 citadel hits on a broadside Yamato and he fired nothing but HE at me and I wasn't even bow on. I think I might just sell it, I've had the NC since January and its just not fun, I barely play it, the ship is great but the meta has seem to have gotten worse

If you can't deal with the DOT from an HE spamming Yamato then your consumable management is not up to high tier play.

[Crossfader 1,142]

Can confirm, Gneisneau is pretty dank, much more fun then the bayern, which, i could not for the life of me, make that fucking ship work... i have better stats in the Konig at tier 5 then i do in the tier 6

[Psycodiver 101]

seems to be allot of complaints about the new economic system now

[OnboardG1 1,279]

8 hours ago, Psycodiver said:

seems to be allot of complaints about the new economic system now

Most of what I've seen has been gurning and whinging from US DD players who camp in smoke (fine, legit playstyle but expect to be rewarded less for a lower risk play) and from strike carrier players. I'd expect some edge cases to fall out from a major change like this. Plus a lot of it is the usual "Y SHUD I ADAPT TO CHANGE" bullshit. 

The scuttlebutt is that aggressive BBs, CAs in general and Japanese DDs have come out fairly well. I need to jump on and play a few to see.

[SoliDeoGloria 417]

15 minutes ago, OnboardG1 said:

Most of what I've seen has been gurning and whinging from US DD players who camp in smoke (fine, legit playstyle but expect to be rewarded less for a lower risk play) and from strike carrier players. I'd expect some edge cases to fall out from a major change like this. Plus a lot of it is the usual "Y SHUD I ADAPT TO CHANGE" bullshit. 

The scuttlebutt is that aggressive BBs, CAs in general and Japanese DDs have come out fairly well. I need to jump on and play a few to see.

So basically people are getting more aggressive. It's about time.

[Das_Schlippo 76]

I had no problems with the economy last night playing in tiers 7 and 8.  I can't speak for 9 and 10 because I don't have any ships of that tier.  In most games I was clearing 130-150k in profit with premium.  There were plenty of people bitching in chat about the terrible new economy, but they tended to be the ones doing circles in the far corners of the map.

 

Even my DDs were making money.  I had a sweet game in my Benson that produced a 220k net payout.

[Jarkorsis 92]

I have a premium account, so this is based on that.  Low tier IJN DD's (Isokaze) are making less money. In the old economy I would have made 200k net with a 98k damage game, shared cap, 2 BB kills (4 and 5) 98k damage, 8 torp hits. With then economy I only made 130k net. That is why people are bitching. On a positive note it seems most premiums are more profitable. I had 3 so so games in Marblehead, Atago, Dunkirk, and made 200k plus net in all of them. I think a lot of the premiums will make a few credits. (Not sure if this is deliberate or not)

My T9 CAs are slight more profitable. (30k to 50k or so) I have not played my T10 ships yet, so time will tell on them. I have seen slightly more aggressive play t8 plus with BB's but there has been to small a sample size at this point.

My play style is pretty aggressive except with CA's for obvious reasons.

In the old economy, I usually made 150k plus credits net in my Gearing, Shimakaze and Fletcher. I need to see how they work now.

[Mnemon 38]

7 hours ago, Das_Schlippo said:

I had no problems with the economy last night playing in tiers 7 and 8.  I can't speak for 9 and 10 because I don't have any ships of that tier.  In most games I was clearing 130-150k in profit with premium.  There were plenty of people bitching in chat about the terrible new economy, but they tended to be the ones doing circles in the far corners of the map.

 

Even my DDs were making money.  I had a sweet game in my Benson that produced a 220k net payout.

I ground out my Myoko to Mogami, and did some T8s last night. Rewards were pretty good if you tried to be useful. The campers are all kinds of mad, but everyone else is drinking their tears out of jeweled chalices.

[Jaegaer 180]

The eco seems fine for agressive players like me. I average about 5 to 10% higher income but CVs seems to really get the shaft bc they rarely have potential damage and their fixed rep costs seem to be quite high. Also they seem to have very low return for spotting damage, so maybe the planes spotting is somehow less profitable than a DD spotting.

Also I think tier V and VI income should be a bit higher. These two tiers are already plagued with bad MM and now also with comparatively low income when compared to VII and VIII.

[Psycodiver 101]

Call me a scrub but I've been playing Coop allot lately. I've been getting burned out of PVP lately and so I switched over. Its kind of fun, the games are faster, allot more brawling and relaxing compared to PVP. I've only seen one player flipping his lid in chat but most of the time people are either quiet or having friendly conversations. Its easy enough to break even and even turn a profit in my NC, just kind of wish they had more things to do in it. I'm also playing some silly matches in the Training room like 10 Langley's vs my Colorado AA build or one nation's line vs a different nation's line, I might post some of those replays because their kind of funny

[BiggieD61 364]

8 minutes ago, Psycodiver said:

Call me a scrub but I've been playing Coop allot lately. I've been getting burned out of PVP lately and so I switched over. Its kind of fun, the games are faster, allot more brawling and relaxing compared to PVP. I've only seen one player flipping his lid in chat but most of the time people are either quiet or having friendly conversations. Its easy enough to break even and even turn a profit in my NC, just kind of wish they had more things to do in it. I'm also playing some silly matches in the Training room like 10 Langley's vs my Colorado AA build or one nation's line vs a different nation's line, I might post some of those replays because their kind of funny

When I go 1 and 5 in a session (yesterday!!!!), I just stop and go into Co-op with my most nasty Brawler ( lately the Scharnhorst ) and wreck face until the rage and shame float away.  Co-op can also be fun with to try weird strats or extreme moves - and I wish they would put in a coastal fortress siege against Monitors, PT boats and secondary batteries mounted in forts.  I would also love them to have a convoy raider mode where 3-4 ships had to bounce in on a defending force with merchants and sink the merchants before they made it off the map - a prefect use for Ocean map.

[Psycodiver 101]

I would love to see a WWI mode personally, any ship that could have fought in WWI can enter as long as it's in its A hull config, since most of the ships stock have similar ranges it would be interesting

[Rodrigopine 184]

Wasn't there a mode they were working on where it was 7 humans vs 15 AI or something like that?

[Psycodiver 101]

6 minutes ago, Rodrigopine said:

Wasn't there a mode they were working on where it was 7 humans vs 15 AI or something like that?

Yea it was high tier only I think and but wasn't added I believe, just supertested

[Das_Schlippo 76]

I accidentally played a game of PvE when I meant to select ranked.  I know some people enjoy it, but there is no challenge and I hope I never mis-click the game mode type again.  I need a challenge, even if it does aggravate me at certain times.  Last I checked, the server average win rate for PvE is something like 93%  I like to win, but I think a session of PvE might put me to sleep.

[Crossfader 1,142]

4 hours ago, Das_Schlippo said:

I accidentally played a game of PvE when I meant to select ranked.  I know some people enjoy it, but there is no challenge and I hope I never mis-click the game mode type again.  I need a challenge, even if it does aggravate me at certain times.  Last I checked, the server average win rate for PvE is something like 93%  I like to win, but I think a session of PvE might put me to sleep.

it is easy, but if you ever show even a little bit of broadside to a bot, instant citadel, they have laser guided shells.

[Das_Schlippo 76]

1 hour ago, Crossfader said:

it is easy, but if you ever show even a little bit of broadside to a bot, instant citadel, they have laser guided shells.

From what I saw, they are too busy crashing into and torping each other to worry about the humans.