Hello I have a suggestion

[Meverick 0]

Greetings fellow tankers,

I am not a new player but new here at wotlabs. I use and assess mine and others' ratings through wn8 numbers which I find very beneficial. However, I have a suggestion to make:

1) WN8 should include a factor whether a player has used premium ammo or not, coz premium ammo gives outright advantage over normal shells especially in meds and lights. So, I think a player switching ammo types effectively and not relying completely on gold spam should get more WN8 numbers (it takes way more skill about opponent tanks' armour knowledge and positioning) than the one using more gold.

2) Take into consideration the stock modules of tanks for determining expected wn8 ingame dmg etc values.

Thanks and regards,

Meverick.

P.S.: I am not sure if it is the correct section of forum to make a suggestion, please move it to appropriate section if required.

[MagentaPanda 715]

I dont think either of these are available in the API, correct me if I am wrong.

[Inciatus 1,124]

That data is not available.

[Android25 962]

Here's the NA API reference: https://na.wargaming.net/developers/api_reference/wot/account/list/

Anything that can be fetched from the api (except parameters starting with "private.") can be used in a statistics rating.

[Haswell 2,399]

Greetings fellow tankers,

I am not a new player but new here at wotlabs. I use and assess mine and others' ratings through wn8 numbers which I find very beneficial. However, I have a suggestion to make:

1) WN8 should include a factor whether a player has used premium ammo or not, coz premium ammo gives outright advantage over normal shells especially in meds and lights. So, I think a player switching ammo types effectively and not relying completely on gold spam should get more WN8 numbers (it takes way more skill about opponent tanks' armour knowledge and positioning) than the one using more gold.

2) Take into consideration the stock modules of tanks for determining expected wn8 ingame dmg etc values.

Thanks and regards,

Meverick.

P.S.: I am not sure if it is the correct section of forum to make a suggestion, please move it to appropriate section if required.

1. If the goal is to win and deal damage, who cares if you spam APCR or not? Sprem usage != skill level. Not to mention the API doesn't support that kind of data.

2. Already accounted for.

[Britzz 500]

2. Already accounted for.

Is it really? That's new to me, how would it be implemented?
Do you mean that WN8, being based on a large sample, takes into account people driving stock tanks in the average performance of a tank? Or is there anything more subtle that I do not know?

[Haswell 2,399]

Do you mean that WN8, being based on a large sample, takes into account people driving stock tanks in the average performance of a tank?

Precisely this, since it's a pretty confident guess that not all the top 50% players spend free xp to avoid driving stock tanks. The vast amount of time spent in any tank however will probably never be in its stock form, so WN8 will still be skewed towards the performance of upgraded tanks.

Unless OP's suggestion is to separate tank expected values into every possible module configuration for every possible tank, in which case good fucking luck getting enough data (assuming the API supports this, which it doesn't), and it would be fairly useless at the end anyway.

[Britzz 500]

Precisely this, since it's a pretty confident guess that not all the top 50% players spend free xp to avoid driving stock tanks. The vast amount of time spent in any tank however will probably never be in its stock form, so WN8 will still be skewed towards the performance of upgraded tanks.

Unless OP's suggestion is to separate tank expected values into every possible module configuration for every possible tank, in which case good fucking luck getting enough data (assuming the API supports this, which it doesn't), and it would be fairly useless at the end anyway.

Well I think the API doesn't support this anyway...
Thanks for the answer

[Rexxie 10,789]

1. If the goal is to win and deal damage, who cares if you spam APCR or not?

Might be the goal of the game, but it isn't the goal of WN8. WN8 tries to measure how good you are, so in a perfect world shooting gold would effect your score. Obviously there's serious complications even beyond not having the data, but...

[Luna 3,443]

Hello your suggestion is bad.