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Hi all, looking to buy a laptop soon-ish and kind of need to update myself on trends etc. Use will be very minimal so I'm probably looking at something without GPU, I'm not sure yet what kind of things it'll be used for but nothing serious. So I'm thinking I just need to get an idea about the best bang for buck (and preferably rather long term - like 5ish years) concerning CPU, HDD/SSD options and maybe memory? 4G should be sufficient I think. Will post more details later

TLDR: Got links or opinions on current laptops being sold in yurop? Post here :)

 

It should fulfill following requirements (which may change)

  • Durable (quite a bit of travelling, but in soft hands - should last at least 6years hopefully)
  • Low price, duh.
  • Probably not too big, will verify.
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Basically I need to find out how not to get scammed by salespeople when buying a laptop. I built my desktop 2years ago and I'm sure things have changed in computerworld since then...

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hmm, Future proof but without a dedicated GPU...

 

I have had nothing but bad experiences with HP laptops the last several years. had a few friends own one, the CPU fan broke within a year. we had one, exactly the same thing happened. they seem to be designed to break the fans after a year.

 

in My Opinion, Asus and Toshiba laptops have always been some of the most durable, dells are also good but are usually more expensive (probably for no reason, like usual with those sorts of brands)

 

honestly, for a future proof machine I would get something with an i5 and 6GB RAM+ (or expandable to more than 4GB if thats what you want) If you are getting something with an AMD CPU I wouldn't get anything less than a Quad core, AMD dual core CPUs are really, really bad. It seems really difficult nowadays, but I would also personally look for something with a CPU over 2GHz. I have no idea why they are all dialing back the clock speeds on these CPUs. 

 

got a Budget? something like this looks good

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  • get something with 8GB RAM or at least 4GB with the option for an upgrade. 8GB are becomming the new 4GB if you get my drift
  • SSD upgrades in the shop/from the company are usually totally overpriced. Keep in mind that a decent 2.5" 500GB SSD costs around 180€ (in germany) new. So maybe plan on going without an SSD and swap the HDD yourself and use external mass storage.
  • pay attention to the display. Full HD (1920x1080) should be the minimum. Personally I find glossy displays a pain in the rear end. And especially for Laptops where viewing angles change all the time, IPS displays are far superior to TN displays in that regard.
  • also check the keyboard for flexing - to much and typing becomes uncomfortable. Trackpad is often an other area where they try to cut corners - test in the shop.
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I, too, will beg of you to reconsider the laptop route. "Future-proof" and "laptop" really don't belong in the same sentence. If you really need something to be portable then by all means continue with your search...

My experience with laptops is mainly as business and work machines. I absolutely ADORE my Lenovo Thinkpads. They are rugged, reliable, and extremely flexible. I enjoyed being able to access the HDD and RAM without taking the entire thing apart. I even had an extra battery that could slide into the optical drive tray. I know that you can get some models that are decent for gaming...

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I, too, will beg of you to reconsider the laptop route. "Future-proof" and "laptop" really don't belong in the same sentence. If you really need something to be portable then by all means continue with your search...

My experience with laptops is mainly as business and work machines. I absolutely ADORE my Lenovo Thinkpads. They are rugged, reliable, and extremely flexible. I enjoyed being able to access the HDD and RAM without taking the entire thing apart. I even had an extra battery that could slide into the optical drive tray. I know that you can get some models that are decent for gaming...

Can confirm think pads are always super legit sweet and trusty

 

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I recently picked up one of these, and was pleasantly surprised.  HDD/SSD and memory are easily user-serviceable, has a lower-end but decent dedicated GPU and the screen resolution doesn't totally suck.  I've found it's very serviceable for productivity tasks and for playing Tanks when on business trips.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152745

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http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/?set_country=BE&set_currency=EUR&x=23&y=9

- delivers to Europe, that link is to Belgium/Euro

- can customise or buy pre-made laptops and PCs

- I've used before and would recommend

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 What i have for you is a link to Very good ASUS Gaming Laptops very similar to what i have just bought for 1200$CAD for EU 

http://rog.asus.com/tag/europe/

Im using a 6 year old asus for tonks

:disco:

it seems good compared to what I used before it

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First of all; it's for a ladyfriend and won't be used at all for gaming. I'm just not sure yet what kind of programms she'll be using but I don't expect much more than office. I'll have to verify. 

hmm, Future proof but without a dedicated GPU...

honestly, for a future proof machine I would get something with an i5 and 6GB RAM+ (or expandable to more than 4GB if thats what you want) If you are getting something with an AMD CPU I wouldn't get anything less than a Quad core, AMD dual core CPUs are really, really bad. It seems really difficult nowadays, but I would also personally look for something with a CPU over 2GHz. I have no idea why they are all dialing back the clock speeds on these CPUs. 

got a Budget? something like this looks good

Thanks, you don't get MSI in that part of the world? It's getting quite popular over here and we owned one a while ago.

  • get something with 8GB RAM or at least 4GB with the option for an upgrade. 8GB are becomming the new 4GB if you get my drift
  • SSD upgrades in the shop/from the company are usually totally overpriced. Keep in mind that a decent 2.5" 500GB SSD costs around 180€ (in germany) new. So maybe plan on going without an SSD and swap the HDD yourself and use external mass storage.
  • pay attention to the display. Full HD (1920x1080) should be the minimum. Personally I find glossy displays a pain in the rear end. And especially for Laptops where viewing angles change all the time, IPS displays are far superior to TN displays in that regard.
  • also check the keyboard for flexing - to much and typing becomes uncomfortable. Trackpad is often an other area where they try to cut corners - test in the shop.

I'd rather not mess with it too much, at least not when it's still "new". Maybe I should look for something with an SSD as standard and just buy her an ext HDD somewhere along the way? Thanks for keyboard tip!

I, too, will beg of you to reconsider the laptop route. "Future-proof" and "laptop" really don't belong in the same sentence. If you really need something to be portable then by all means continue with your search...

My experience with laptops is mainly as business and work machines. I absolutely ADORE my Lenovo Thinkpads. They are rugged, reliable, and extremely flexible. I enjoyed being able to access the HDD and RAM without taking the entire thing apart. I even had an extra battery that could slide into the optical drive tray. I know that you can get some models that are decent for gaming...

It really really has to be a laptop :) Will look into the thinkpads!

Wait, you're a grille?

I've always been kansa :doge:

 

 

  • What exactly are these 10point multi touch things some of the laptops have?
  • Big differences between 4th/5th gen?
  • Any other things you guys can think of that I should avoid?
  • Seen some with 360° flip capabilities, anyone know horrorstories about those or do they work fine?
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Thanks, you don't get MSI in that part of the world? It's getting quite popular over here and we owned one a while ago.

 

we do, but they aren't very common, most of them are all high end gaming laptops

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 What i have for you is a link to Very good ASUS Gaming Laptops very similar to what i have just bought for 1200$CAD for EU 

http://rog.asus.com/tag/europe/

Got myself a Rog to replace my MSI that got stolen, and I'm loving it to bits. Especially the chassis, which is way superior : the MSI used to get worringly hot unless I put the fan on turbo, and that made a hellish noise. The ROG's heatsinks are far superior, and the fans are silent.

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First of all; it's for a ladyfriend and won't be used at all for gaming. I'm just not sure yet what kind of programms she'll be using but I don't expect much more than office. I'll have to verify. 

Take a look at her old system. There you can see what programms she s using and how much storage she needs.

 

I'd rather not mess with it too much, at least not when it's still "new". Maybe I should look for something with an SSD as standard and just buy her an ext HDD somewhere along the way? Thanks for keyboard tip!

With many Laptops (in the past at least) you could swap/upgrade RAM and HDD without voiding the warrenty. So check that.

Often the Laptops with bigger SSDs are more of  the premium products. SSDs arnt quite mainstream yet. And with preconfigured laptops you cant choose which SSD - there are some I wouldnt touch.

Big differences between 4th/5th gen?

usually better battery life - how much depends on the implementation

 

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btw - find out if she needs an ODD (optical drive)

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Can confirm think pads are always super legit sweet and trusty

 

The only negative i've had with Thinkpads is the batteries tend to die. My Thinkpad went through two before I decided to just keep it tethered. My laptop has been going since 2008. N.B.: I've been running linux on it since 2011 or so, so that's lightweight. If I'd gotten a dedicated GPU instead of the integrated on it, I could have done more gaming. I did light stuff for a while, but it couldn't do anything super hardcore. +1 for Thinkpads.

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The only negative i've had with Thinkpads is the batteries tend to die. My Thinkpad went through two before I decided to just keep it tethered. My laptop has been going since 2008. N.B.: I've been running linux on it since 2011 or so, so that's lightweight. If I'd gotten a dedicated GPU instead of the integrated on it, I could have done more gaming. I did light stuff for a while, but it couldn't do anything super hardcore. +1 for Thinkpads.

ahyea  almost forgo about that, but at leat geting a better battery module isn't all that hard =3

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I bough my wife an MSI 17inch laptop.

 

AWESOME machine. (I got all teh sexay upgrades)

 

Battery life is crap.

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So I asked her about price and programs, but being a woman, she knew exactly what was needed which is why I'm afraid further progress will be saved for later on (as in monday-ish).

 

Thinkpads seem somewhat expensive for the kind of hardware you get or am I missing something?

Most laptops seem to come with HDD indeed, I've also seen SSDHD or something like that, is it some sort of combination between the two? I remember reading about them somewhere but I don't think I read much good about it.

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Whatever you buy just account for female technological illiteracy.

You're an asshole.

 

Hi all, looking to buy a laptop soon-ish and kind of need to update myself on trends etc. Use will be very minimal so I'm probably looking at something without GPU, I'm not sure yet what kind of things it'll be used for but nothing serious. So I'm thinking I just need to get an idea about the best bang for buck (and preferably rather long term - like 5ish years) concerning CPU, HDD/SSD options and maybe memory? 4G should be sufficient I think. Will post more details later

TLDR: Got links or opinions on current laptops being sold in yurop? Post here :)

 

It should fulfill following requirements (which may change)

  • Durable (quite a bit of travelling, but in soft hands - should last at least 6years hopefully)
  • Low price, duh.
  • Probably not too big, will verify.

I personally have a Lenovo Y510P. It costs a good amount, ~$800, but it is extremely durable and a good size. In addition, it is a good gaming laptop -- I can run Wot at the highest graphic settings with ~50 FPS. 

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I personally have a Lenovo Y510P. It costs a good amount, ~$800, but it is extremely durable and a good size. In addition, it is a good gaming laptop -- I can run Wot at the highest graphic settings with ~50 FPS. 

Thanks but that's a bit too much of performance than she needs, rather something cheaper :)

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