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T54E2 w/120mm and T-22SR models

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As a bunch of supertest vehicles are now on gamemodels3d, I took a brief look at the armour models of the upcoming reward vehicles. Might also do the Japanese heavies later.

 

T54E2

Misc:

-2000 HP

-400 view range

View range is noticeably worse than the other us tier Xs for whatever reason.

Mobility:

-Max speed 48.3

-Weight 49.4t

-Engine power 825hp

-P/W 16.7hp/t

-Terrain resistance 0.8/0.9/1.8

-Traverse speed 50

Mobility stats are identical to the vanilla M48 except it has a marginally worse P/W ratio (due to 2t of extra weight) but better top speed.

Gun:

-258 AP/340 HEAT pen

-Alpha 400

-RoF 6.67

-DPM 2667

-Accuracy 0.4

-Aim time 2.1

-Movement bloom 0.12, turret bloom 0.08

-10 deg depression, 20 deg elevation

-36 rounds

The familiar US 120mm. Basically all around worse fire control than the M48 and a very low ammo cap (good that Crab asked about it...). However the penetration is sometimes slightly better (HEAT+10mm pen on HEAT and more normalisation/opportunities for 3x overmatch on standard round), 1 degree more elevation/depression.

 

 

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AFAIK the only difference compared to the production M48 is the turret and gun(s) used, so the hull should be the same as the regular HD M48.

The turret cheeks are extremely well sloped and generally quite thick, so AP/APCR will autobounce and the effective armour may also be sufficient against most HEAT.

The turret ring and the areas immediately next to the mantlet are quite flat but there is no point to aim for these spots as the tumour will be an easier target that you more or less cannot bounce off.

However, if the tank is hulldown on a slope, the cupola becomes somewhat more difficult to hit and the underside of the the turret becomes both weaker and a larger target. On level ground it's 237 effective, from 10 degrees below it's 194

 

T-22SR

Misc:

-1900 HP

-400 view range

Mobility:

-Max speed 55

-Weight 35.7t

-Engine power 750hp

-P/W 21.0hp/t

-Terrain resistance 0.6/0.7/1.5

-Traverse speed 54

Similar to other tier X RU meds except is has way better engine power, I bet it's insanely agile.

Gun:

-264 APCR/330 HEAT pen

-Alpha 320

-RoF 8

-DPM 2560

-Accuracy 0.33

-Aim time 1.9

-Movement bloom 0.08, turret bloom 0.08

-5 deg depression, 16 deg elevation

-50 rounds

Same gun as its peers with noticeably lower DPM but the best fire control.

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The T-22's front hull is perhaps weaker than expected, but it has two major strengths.

Its turret has basically nonexistent cupolas and the roof is too thick to be overmatched by sub-150mm guns, so the opponent will often struggle to find any real weakspots.

Secondly, the sides are, with the exception of a tiny a strip at the top, entirely at the same 57 degrees. This means that people going for a seemingly easy side shot will just ricochet over and over as long as you stay below 39 degrees of side angle. 90% of your enemies can just shoot through the facing side of the pike nose at this point, but basically you're hoping to bait them into shooting your troll side hull. The rear is also angled at 50/49 degrees (lower/upper rear), this means that you *might* get some lucky ricochets if someone attacks you diagonally from the rear and they misjudge where they should shoot.

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Sorry, didn't have time to do everything before. Edited stats into OP.

great edits ty!

As for ammo capacity, top player problems! I've been down to 2-3 shells on my E5 and 907 many times!

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If these are going to be reward tanks, they are going to be mediocre...
The T54E2 is basically just an uptiered T54E1. 10 more alpha and a bit more penetration, but no APCR and no view range that the American mediums are famous for. Yet it keeps the infamous tumor.
Points for the gun depression and better dispersion though. Depending on how many rounds it has in the drum it might be good.

T-22SR looks like a T-62A trading a lot of DPM for side armor.
It'll be worse than the 140 hull down because it has less gun depression and it will also be worse than the T-62A hull down because it looks like the turret is moderately weaker as well.
How many soviet mediums will we get before we get one that actually has armor it likes to advertise having? The 430 is already supposed to be the "heavy" soviet medium and the Obj. 777 is a heavy tank with an identity crisis (much like the 113.) To me it doesn't look like it's supposed to be its own thing, but rather "fill a gap" between 2 tanks that are already filling a gap. The STB-1 is supposed to be the halfway between an M48 and a Leo 1, the AMX 30 is supposed to be a halfway between an STB-1 and a Leo 1, etc.

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If these are going to be reward tanks, they are going to be mediocre...
The T54E2 is basically just an uptiered T54E1. 10 more alpha and a bit more penetration, but no APCR and no view range that the American mediums are famous for. Yet it keeps the infamous tumor.
Points for the gun depression and better dispersion though. Depending on how many rounds it has in the drum it might be good.

T-22SR looks like a T-62A trading a lot of DPM for side armor.
It'll be worse than the 140 hull down because it has less gun depression and it will also be worse than the T-62A hull down because it looks like the turret is moderately weaker as well.
How many soviet mediums will we get before we get one that actually has armor it likes to advertise having? The 430 is already supposed to be the "heavy" soviet medium and the Obj. 777 is a heavy tank with an identity crisis (much like the 113.) To me it doesn't look like it's supposed to be its own thing, but rather "fill a gap" between 2 tanks that are already filling a gap. The STB-1 is supposed to be the halfway between an M48 and a Leo 1, the AMX 30 is supposed to be a halfway between an STB-1 and a Leo 1, etc.

Obj 777 will be much thougher as 113 for sure, how though is hard to say, since paper numbers and in-game reality dont always match, but i guess its much closer to IS7 as 113, and that in worst case scenario, its almost as though as IS4, with better speed....

(tanks.gg now also has armor model, http://tanks.gg/en/wot/obj-777-ii#tab:model )

UFP goes from 250 to 400, with a bar of weak and the rest 300mm, lfp is 200, turret is like IS-4, imprevious to anything except next to the gun mantle (260) and a weak roof, but no hatches (roof is 50mm thick, but not that sloped, so it can be penned by HEAT or when shooting a tiny bit from above)

Also, what will WG do with these tanks?

Wg needs:

  • a new cw reward tank (the obj 777, since no ru heavy for  CW yet?)
  • 4 new tanks for next batch of missions
  • ????

We got so many new premium tanks lately, im seriously starting to wonder what they wanna do with all of those, unless they will add some new stuff to the tech tree`s, Obj 777 or that US med in the tech tree would be really nice...

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To clarify, the T54E1 and T54E2 are autoloading and non-autoloading versions of the same project, both armed with the 105mm T140. However there was also a 120mm version of the E2, this was probably implemented by WG so it would be a bit more different from the normal M48 and fit tier X (the T140 would also be competitive, but it's AFAIK nerfed into the ground ingame compared to RL performance).

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I get that that's the official (?) name it has, but Jesus fucking Christ M48A2/T54E2/T123E6 is a fucking mouthful.

 

What do you think its shortened name is? Are they just gonna call it T54E2 in a match or is it going to be the whole thing?

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