City maps in Leo PTA or other soft tanks

[SFC_Storm 58]

Im really having huge trouble with Stalingrad and other maps in the PTA, it is so soft and so low on DPM even scouts can hurt me and take more than half my health.

So on stalingrad how would you experts deploy? It seems like I go beach but lack of depression really hurts me as well as low DPM and softness.

[Fulcrous 2,073]

Be opportunistic and avoid any high alpha/dpm threats.

That's literally all you have to do to play the Leo PTA well on any map.

[Constie 1,350]

General rule is to stay with other ppl and not to go somewhere on your own, unless you see that you and your team will win the game clearly. Its always depressing to get clipped for almost all your HP by a yolorushing 13 90 or something else in your Leo 1.

On open maps you can cruise around much more freely.

[Ollie Tabooger 614]

I always sit back and take potshots at cupolas right after enemies fire. If a flank starts faltering, I just run away behind hard cover to another flank. Towards the end of the match, when I still have all my HP, I tend to yolo people and get around their sides if there's still people alive to take hits for me.

[prolix 355]

Some insights on playing soft tanks in any enclosed map:

• Don't ever go anywhere alone. Always be sure there's an ally you can fall back on in the immediate vicinity. Don't expect anyone to roll in and save you if you get rushed by something. For maps like Kharkov/Stalingrad, I find it's very easy to overextend in those tight city streets and get pushed by enemies. 
• The only way you can overpower something in a soft tank is by trading your health. So assess how risky your decision to push is before committing. 
• Account for enemies if you want to gain some map control and set up a cross fire. Being a fast support tank, the most effective way you can use your relatively low DPM but accurate tank is to hit an occupied enemy from a different direction. Unfortunately, scenarios like that are often impossible in the early game (without huge risk) so being passive might be inevitable (until you account for everyone's deployment and positions).
• Don't get isolated by autoloading tanks. Baddies would love nothing but to rush your soft tank (even at the cost of theirs) since they know they could probably pen all their shots barring troll RNG. 

Being a soft, flanky tank can sometimes mean you have little to contribute at the early game stage. So if your team collapses 0-5 within like 3 min of the game, all you can do is pull back and farm damage for inevitable losses I guess. 

[SFC_Storm 58]

All great points. It seriously just seems like all the normal strengths a soft tank has like depression, fast reload or High DPM are lacking in the PTA and it makes it very hard. I still avg 2k DMG but it feels like much less. Like T61 at least has -9 and so you abuse depression with its low DPM/Softness. Patton line is the same.

 

I think I got a good suggestion about living till end of game where my vision and camo play a role, but to me it feels to team reliant. This tank just cant do anything solo.

[Fulcrous 2,073]

The PTA actually has decent DPM. Just make your trades properly.

I solo'd mine at 69% (190ish solo) and 2.5k DPG

[zapyoug 2,141]

step 1: find teammates

step 2: adequately use them as meat shields to farm damage

step 3:profit

[Buffalo444 112]

Be opportunistic and avoid any high alpha/dpm threats.

That's literally all you have to do to play the Leo PTA well on any map.

QFT

The PTA has such a laser cannon but you seem so mundane that tanks will actually forget about you. Not like a WT or autoloader, where people will yolo you to try to take you out of the game; people only yolo you in the PTA expecting an easy kill, which if you preserve your HP and play at a distance makes that a tough task.

And the PTA is SOOOOO maneuverable and flat out fast that "being opportunistic" can happen literally anywhere on the map, you just have to put yourself there.

[SFC_Storm 58]

The PTA actually has decent DPM. Just make your trades properly.

I solo'd mine at 69% (190ish solo) and 2.5k DPG

2k DPM is not good with a tank that can`t trade with anything IMO.

IDK how you can solo 69% with it, thats crazy.

QFT
The PTA has such a laser cannon but you seem so mundane that tanks will actually forget about you. Not like a WT or autoloader, where people will yolo you to try to take you out of the game; people only yolo you in the PTA expecting an easy kill, which if you preserve your HP and play at a distance makes that a tough task.

And the PTA is SOOOOO maneuverable and flat out fast that "being opportunistic" can happen literally anywhere on the map, you just have to put yourself there.

See its the opposite I find. Everyone yolos me because im as soft as a Romba but with a 10 sec reload. Also while the speed is great, the lack of depression hurts it badly IMO.

Rus tanks have -5 and -6 but you dont have to remove the turret from all engagements. If the PTS turret is exposed, its penned.

[Fulcrous 2,073]

What crew setup and equipment are you using?
You should be maximizing the tanks strengths as well as minimizing it's weaknesses (camo + view range = strength, gun handling = weakness).

Run VS,Optics, Rammer if you aren't already.

Crew skills should have BiA, Gunnery skills for OTM accuracy, safe stowage, view range perks and camo as a 3rd skill for maximum efficiency.

Also run double repairs, or use chocolate.

[SFC_Storm 58]

What crew setup and equipment are you using?
You should be maximizing the tanks strengths as well as minimizing it's weaknesses (camo + view range = strength, gun handling = weakness).

Run VS,Optics, Rammer if you aren't already.

Crew skills should have BiA, Gunnery skills for OTM accuracy, safe stowage, view range perks and camo as a 3rd skill for maximum efficiency.

Also run double repairs, or use chocolate.

I run this pretty much. Dual reps+ Crew Camo+Optics/Rammer and all the safe skills to limit fire ammo rack.

 

Im fine on long maps, its just the cities that really are bad for me. But ill try these tips today and let you know. I just hate sitting back and basically hoping my pubbies win the match, and thats what it feels like.

 

Fulc toon with me and show me whats up

[Fulcrous 2,073]

I sold my PTA to work on my Leo 1 marks.

[TheMarine0341 4,973]

Im really having huge trouble with Stalingrad and other maps in the PTA, it is so soft and so low on DPM even scouts can hurt me and take more than half my health.

So on stalingrad how would you experts deploy? It seems like I go beach but lack of depression really hurts me as well as low DPM and softness.

Heres a battle I had in the PTA on Karkov

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0gtI7unqvI

PTA cannot push, its DPM is so low that some tier 8 HT's just wreck it. Support the main push, only use your HP at the end. That HP is the only armor the PTA has

[SFC_Storm 58]

Heres a battle I had in the PTA on Karkov

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0gtI7unqvI

PTA cannot push, its DPM is so low that some tier 8 HT's just wreck it. Support the main push, only use your HP at the end. That HP is the only armor the PTA has

Great game. I still see that there where 3 t10 players platooned with great stats where as the other was solid yellow. I know it doesnt take away from the tactics but doesnt it seem like the PTA simply cannot carry? I mean open maps it does very well, but It just feels like it has no carry to me.

 

Like I said ill keep trying very carefully with all your tips, and Im sure it will get better. But I still am a skeptic as to how much better this tank can be. I mean facing the pTA in any other T9 doesnt scare me, si why would it scare my enemies. We shall see :). Also, as of late Im soloing 95% if the time and It really is a massive deal in a tank like this. When I have 2 others in heavies etc, this tank really shines, but solo seems hard enough without its handicaps.

[SFC_Storm 58]

Im still struggling hard to carry solo. 1 enemy platoon of meds who are competent and im cooked before I break 2k dmg. And if I sit back and hide from platoon to conserve HP, I am the shitter blue who cares more about Wn8 than Wins and we end up losing.

I find its a good bully often times. But vs T10 meds, it is toast and in many maps you have to go medium side.

Its great when Im platooning, but solo is bad.