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I need help on this seeing as how there arent really any guides on this yet other than exploits or console commands, but I've noticed in this fallout especially Caps are much harder to obtain even near the levels of NV and Fallout 3.  I've also taken into account that for Late game stuff you heavily rely upon mods more so than the base weapons themselves as it should be. Now bears the question how do i economy in fallout 4? I've got like 2 settlements at 10+ people, but even with the whole invest 500 caps thing for shops it's difficult to abuse making a shitload of caps because weapon sales simply wont do it anymore. A modded sniper rifle, laser rifle, revolver all of them -are horrifically under priced and the shops still keep a relatively low stockpile of caps to even barter with. So I'm at the question if whether I should continue scavenging like normal or should I rely upon my settlements for late game items? 

For instance I had 2 full sets of T45d and the whole set would only sell for less than 500 on maximum repair with a few mods. 

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TL;DR: How do i economy in fallout 4? 

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I fully suspect this being a "balance" issue as it was rather easy to horde a shit ton of caps in reletive ease early on in the last two games.

However, less than 500 caps for a full suit of pristine T45-d power armour?

Fuck off Bethesda. I fully expect a "economy" balance patch in a few weeks when people are complaining en masse about the lack of funds available and the insulting offers you get for fully fixed gear.

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Just now, FreddBoy said:

I fully suspect this being a "balance" issue as it was rather easy to horde a shit ton of caps in reletive ease early on in the last two games.

However, less than 500 caps for a full suit of pristine T45-d power armour?

Fuck off Bethesda. I fully expect a "economy" balance patch in a few weeks when people are complaining en masse about the lack of funds available and the insulting offers you get for fully fixed gear.

Ikr where is my "easily exploitable barter system"? 

To put it into perspective Im level 34 with full sets of bullshit power armor and spamming my way to victory with the combat rifle w/ mods. It's pretty glorious, but for all this I havent been able to even afford the house in diamond city which is like 2000 caps.

:serb:

Im poor send help 

:cri: 

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1 hour ago, FreddBoy said:

Fuck off Bethesda. I fully expect a "economy" balance patch in a few weeks when people are complaining en masse about the lack of funds available and the insulting offers you get for fully fixed gear.

I'm not really sure this is a bad thing, in F3 and FNV it wouldn't take long before you were drowning in caps, thus it was pretty much irrelevant what you did with them, now that they're much harder to come by it means they're a much more relevant aspect of gameplay (as you don't have enough to buy everything you need and/or want), which personally, I think suits the wasteland a lot more.

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6 minutes ago, Storm said:

I'm not really sure this is a bad thing, in F3 and FNV it wouldn't take long before you were drowning in caps, thus it was pretty much irrelevant what you did with them, now that they're much harder to come by it means they're a much more relevant aspect of gameplay (as you don't have enough to buy everything you need and/or want), which personally, I think suits the wasteland a lot more.

I'm not saying I want that level of absurdity, but Im level 34 on survivor mode with full sets of T60E armor and I cant afford a shack in that shithole diamond city

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Building a 5 story high metal shack only supported by a ladder isn't overly 'wasteland-ish', either

I'm at 12 hours into the game, level 12 too (2spokkie)and only come across one trader and was shocked to find I only had like 200 caps after all that time.

I think its because we're now scrapping high value stuff rather than selling. I had to remember to take my pre-war money out of the workshop's inventory else it would be used for cloth.

The only things I ever bought from traders was ammo or stimpaks so I never needed that many caps anyway. Though I do miss that cap gambling minigame from NV (caravan (?)), was always an easy way to earn some caps early on.

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5 hours ago, Assad said:

I'm not saying I want that level of absurdity, but Im level 34 on survivor mode with full sets of T60E armor and I cant afford a shack in that shithole diamond city

what are you spending your money on?, literally everything i need i just make myself. ive only bought ammo once or twice when ive ran low bout it. the game provides you with enough materials that merchants arnt even needed. im level 20 and i have over 3000 caps because theres nothing to spend them on

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4 minutes ago, westybig said:

what are you spending your money on?, literally everything i need i just make myself. ive only bought ammo once or twice when ive ran low bout it. the game provides you with enough materials that merchants arnt even needed. im level 20 and i have over 3000 caps because theres nothing to spend them on

ammo and rare materials for T60 also take into account that im playing on the hardest  mode. Meaning npcs do more damage have better Hp which means more ammo used more materials used for repairs and lastly ofc more caps used on medical shit

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^This. I found fallout new vagas ridiculously forgiving in easy, and once you got mid game, even normal mode.

Hard mode, holy fuck I had much more respect for certain enemies and scavaging every cap was a necessity rather than luxury. Add in playing on survival for hunger and thirst for extra tough lulz.

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It's almost like they tried making pickpocketing/lockpicking/hacking/stealth relevant or something :doge:

I think most of you don't realise that the economy has moved to scavenging now and that if you really want to, you can abuse it just as hard as in previous games. You have basically zero weapons expenses outside ammo because you just need a couple of perks and you can turn that full auto assault rifle into a powerful sniper rifle if you want/need to. Shooting itself is very accurate now, so if you've got aim (or crouch with a sniper rifle, huehue), you can clear things out at minimum ammo waste and less misses in VATS. Finally, I'm quite sure that you in the long run can make lots of dollaridoos off your crops in various settlements. God damn, you can spam some plants and if they sell for even 1 cap a pop, you'll be rich in no time.

Also, for god's sake, turn those shitty .38 rounds into money because you will find thousands of them. I do agree that if you're used to the "what's an economy?" system of all the other Bethesda games, you might get surprised, but they really amped up the scavenging aspect for a reason.

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This can be exploited but it isnt because of shitty inventory management or console commands.

Spoiler

When you visit vault 81 there is an NPC you can interact with who will buy Jet for 75 caps and he has unlimited caps. Pretty timely since the vendor there has some nice gear.

 

 

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