T-34-3 better than the IS-6? Worth grinding a crew?

[hideyodagNA 38]

In light of the recent gun depression buff, I wonder if it's worth buying and grinding out a new crew when I could keep using my IS-6 w/ 5 skill crew...  Part of me wants to grab it before they remove it from the game as it's limited MM.

The gun seems almost identical except it has less bloom on hull move/traverse and 1 degree less depression and HEAT premium.  Mobility-wise, somewhat improved thanks to the .5 med resistance decrease, however a much weaker hull. I wonder if a whole new world of hull-down tactics are opened up with the added gun depression. The turret armor looks decent.

Worth the grind?

[snowdude21325 62]

I enjoyed mine before the gun depression buff. Have yet to play it with the buff because I have a type 59 now.

EDIT: I enjoyed it enough before that I would rather play it over my IS-6. Although the gun was derp, everything else was reliable compared to the IS-6, which relies on match making not throwing you against tier 9 super heavies all the time.

 

[Reache 4]

 

because I have a type 59 now.

This is why no one likes you Snow...

[snowdude21325 62]

HOLY FUCK, I'M JUST STATING A FUCKING FACT HERE. I also took off the equipment because I bought a t-54. I will try it out when I can get my hands on some more equipment. Holy fuck. I'm sorry that everyone brings it up in TS when I come into the room because I want to play.

[Sturm_Jager 50]

Did you win a competition?

 

[snowdude21325 62]

Yes

[zapyoug 2,141]

the is6 is still just a better tank

if anything becomes better than IS6, they must buff IS6

because Russia

that said, IS6 is fucking boring imo

[SkittlesOfSteeI 1,680]

 

the is6 is still just a better tank

if anything becomes better than IS6, they must buff IS6

because Russia

that said, IS6 is fucking boring imo

It's not boring if you find #meta positions that may or may not work.

[Cunicularius 4,543]

 

the is6 is still just a better tank

if anything becomes better than IS6, they must buff IS6

because Russia

that said, IS6 is fucking boring imo

Unless it is another Russian heavy tank, ie arguably based KV5

As for the T343, its an entirely different vehicle now. It is now more of a tier 8 T-54 than WZ-120, and will be similarly more effective. With a great turret for its tier, and the familiar -5 degrees of depression, it will now be the tier 8 medium that everyone has always wanted to replace the Type 59. For some, the gun handling and dpm is still a deal breaker, but to me and many others it will be a unique and particularly interesting yet capable tank in a comfortable tier bracket.

[SFC_Storm 58]

 

Unless it is another Russian heavy tank, ie arguably based KV5

As for the T343, its an entirely different vehicle now. It is now more of a tier 8 T-54 than WZ-120, and will be similarly more effective. With a great turret for its tier, and the familiar -5 degrees of depression, it will now be the tier 8 medium that everyone has always wanted to replace the Type 59. For some, the gun handling and dpm is still a deal breaker, but to me and many others it will be a unique and particularly interesting yet capable tank in a comfortable tier bracket.

As soon as I saw the buff I wanted to ask you being the 34-3 Jedi, If you thought credits wise it would be a good purchase.

I have a 59, but TBH it isnt the credit maker of some tanks because its alpha is lower and being a chinese tank it derps.

My thinking is the T34-3 esp on city maps will now be superior in many ways because its peekaboom credit power.

Is my thinking off?

I mean dont get me wrong the 59 is my all round favorite but lately I am just trying to grind creds and this means using guns with Hi pen for range like FCM [Not CDC as it just gets rolled vs anything hard] or T34. Or I have to use 180ish mm meds and flank, or Is6/112 type heavies at knife range and not miss. Out of all these I figure the T34-3 could flank as well as get close enough for weakspots etc.

Basically with a Is6 gun on a med you can also get 40% more DMG at end of match vs arty and other softies right?

[Cunicularius 4,543]

 

As soon as I saw the buff I wanted to ask you being the 34-3 Jedi, If you thought credits wise it would be a good purchase.

I have a 59, but TBH it isnt the credit maker of some tanks because its alpha is lower and being a chinese tank it derps.

My thinking is the T34-3 esp on city maps will now be superior in many ways because its peekaboom credit power.

Is my thinking off?

I mean dont get me wrong the 59 is my all round favorite but lately I am just trying to grind creds and this means using guns with Hi pen for range like FCM [Not CDC as it just gets rolled vs anything hard] or T34. Or I have to use 180ish mm meds and flank, or Is6/112 type heavies at knife range and not miss. Out of all these I figure the T34-3 could flank as well as get close enough for weakspots etc.

Basically with a Is6 gun on a med you can also get 40% more DMG at end of match vs arty and other softies right?

Eh, maybe, the way I play it I just HEAT through frontal engagements, the way the maps are now you will find many more opportunities for direct engagements than you will for flanking.

That being said, things are a bit different now with the depression change... AP343 is certainly more viable than before since you can get your gun into play with less effort than previously, you can go for LFPs more easily etc. How much more viable it is, I don't know. 

I would recommend the JT88 over this for credits, but the viability of the 343 for credit making while maintaining adequate performance is no longer as certain as it was before, I can't give you a definitive answer as I have not yet even played it since the change, I've only just finished setting up my mods (which hopefully will work).

I can do a set of games with just AP and maybe produce an well based opinion on it.

[SFC_Storm 58]

 

Eh, maybe, the way I play it I just HEAT through frontal engagements, the way the maps are now you will find many more opportunities for direct engagements than you will for flanking.

That being said, things are a bit different now with the depression change... AP343 is certainly more viable than before since you can get your gun into play with less effort than previously, you can go for LFPs more easily etc. How much more viable it is, I don't know. 

I would recommend the JT88 over this for credits, but the viability of the 343 for credit making while maintaining adequate performance is no longer as certain as it was before, I can't give you a definitive answer as I have not yet even played it since the change, I've only just finished setting up my mods (which hopefully will work).

I can do a set of games with just AP and maybe produce an well based opinion on it.

Please do. Give me a mini review. From what I have seen you are one of if not the most exp proponents of the 34-3. ALso I am looking for a generalized balance of AP-Gold. Maybe a 75-25 split as I will always pay a 1/4th of my credits/Time to play at a higher level and get the win.

I guess im looking for a fun tank with max creditability. My Jt88 is great for creds but to boring for me. I was hoping the IS3a would be a perfect mix but im just not sure yet as it really isnt a is3 but a true heavy.

T59 is amazing tank but its DPM is also low, however its alpha as I said lacks. So where as a FCM makes around 45k per game for me, the 59 is probably 25ish as a whole. If I could swing a happy medium between the two I would love it.

Also how is the T54 Prot for creds or the STA2 etc? Any other tank im overlooking? Basically a fast moving credit maker [In Pubs] thats not the FCM?

[Cunicularius 4,543]

 

Please do. Give me a mini review. From what I have seen you are one of if not the most exp proponents of the 34-3. ALso I am looking for a generalized balance of AP-Gold. Maybe a 75-25 split as I will always pay a 1/4th of my credits/Time to play at a higher level and get the win.

I guess im looking for a fun tank with max creditability. My Jt88 is great for creds but to boring for me. I was hoping the IS3a would be a perfect mix but im just not sure yet as it really isnt a is3 but a true heavy.

T59 is amazing tank but its DPM is also low, however its alpha as I said lacks. So where as a FCM makes around 45k per game for me, the 59 is probably 25ish as a whole. If I could swing a happy medium between the two I would love it.

Also how is the T54 Prot for creds or the STA2 etc? Any other tank im overlooking? Basically a fast moving credit maker [In Pubs] thats not the FCM?

Preliminary Report on the T-34-3:

No amount of buffs will ever make up for the existence of arty.

The End.

[Wanderjar 298]

http://forum.wotlabs.net/index.php?/topic/23278-mini-review-of-the-t-34-3-post-buff/&do=getNewComment

i am ded. have an upboat for this Cuni

[zapyoug 2,141]

 

Preliminary Report on the T-34-3:

No amount of buffs will ever make up for the existence of arty.

The End.

buff roof and floor armor to 999

[Cunicularius 4,543]

 

buff roof and floor armor to 999

Arty proceeds to damage vehicle by splashing side and front/rear armor.

gg

[Vindi 414]

 

Arty proceeds to damage vehicle by splashing side and front/rear armor.

gg

30 seconds into battle -> conq gc splashes me for 1160 

[tajj7 560]

Is important to note that it has 50mm side armour, will mean arty fcks it over more than a Type and it can't sidescrape.

It's an average tank with pref-MM and a bad gun for a medium IMO, but it at least can now point that bad gun at things and make the most of it's decent turret armour.

Hoping it will get a further buff in HD, 80mm side armour would be nice, maybe they find some documents and turns out it was really a Type 59. 

It's probably more fun than an IS6 because it has never really relied on it's armour so tier 9 games, premium spammers, TDs etc that make the IS6 a sad panda don't really matter.

If the gun doesn't screw you over then you have high alpha that racks the damage up quickly on a mobile platform. Thing is the gun will screw you over regularly and because your reload it so huge you can't perma track stuff like turretless TDs.

This and the Sherman Rev both rack up damage well because you have mobile platforms with high alpha for their tier, one hand the Rev has the gun for it having decent handling, accuracy, depression, penetration etc. but a terrible platform. On the other hand you have the T-34-3 which is a decent platform, bouncy turret, decent mobility, good camo but that awful handling (though bloom is ok). Shame there isn't a happy medium between the two. 

Considering the price, the fact you don't have a decent crew I wouldn't recommend it. The gun depression buff IMO is more for the suffering owners of the thing rather than to entice new buyers.

 

 

[Pravdy 99]

 

30 seconds into battle -> conq gc splashes me for 1160 

Punished for fail platoon. Preferred MM, use it

[lavawing 498]

I can confirm that the gun depression doesn't help it hulldown defensively - it just gives you a little more leeway when getting a shot off. The turret cheeks are still (relatively )soft and that gun handling means you cannot wiggle if you actually want to hit anything which isn't (i) the sky, (ii) dirt.

[SFC_Storm 58]

 

Considering the price, the fact you don't have a decent crew I wouldn't recommend it. The gun depression buff IMO is more for the suffering owners of the thing rather than to entice new buyers.

 

 

Thanks for update. Shit, I was hoping the -5 was gonna blow the doors off of the medium line. Its funny looking back it had a DPM buff, a bloom buff and now a depression buff and guys are still saying its just falling in line Cuni how the hell did you like it so much before then?

Also, Tajj what is your favorite Cred grinder?

[tajj7 560]

Probably the Cromwell B or 50T, also do like the T-54 proto thought it's not the most efficient credit grinder. 

Don't want to put you off completely, it's not a terrible tank and it can work, but it is basically the IS6 gun or IS gun with a worse reload but you can't get as close as an IS6. 

[Cunicularius 4,543]

 

Thanks for update. Shit, I was hoping the -5 was gonna blow the doors off of the medium line. Its funny looking back it had a DPM buff, a bloom buff and now a depression buff and guys are still saying its just falling in line Cuni how the hell did you like it so much before then?

Because I was playing it before they nerfed the sigma

[TheSovereign 229]

Personal preference IMO. I love this thing and the added gun depression gives it a lot more ability to aim at weak spots like LFP's or just not expose as much of your tank in general. I never really cared for the IS6 personally. With the amount of gold spam id rather have the mobility than the armor

Generally if I roll up behind a enemy heavy whos currently engaged with one of our heavies he will ignore me thinking the heavy is the greater threat while I blap him with a heavy gun in the ass. And even if he turns to face me, he exposes his sides to whoever he was previously engaged with so its win win really.

 

 

[Griphos 81]

I'm pretty close to getting this.  I've always been interested, but the depression dissuaded me in the past.  I put off buying the SPershing for a long time as it seemed so slow and....meh.  I LOVE that tank, particularly after the recent armor buff.  I think I would like this one too, and I suspect it won't be around much longer.  (But who knows?!).  

I like the IS-6, but I do prefer mediums over heavies.  I think pref 8s are about the best way to play.  Not sure you can have too many.  Have fun and make a little credit as well, even without premium account....

[Hovers finger over "Purchase" button....]