T-34/100: All the 'Meh'

[RichardNixon 835]

5 hours ago, dustygator said:

It's just most top players want a tank that affect games and carry.

It's no worse at winning games compared to the other heavy-weighted tier 7 mediums, but then none of them are really competitive with the heavies and so they suffer. The 34-100, Comet and VK3002D form a tight group of mediocrity. The Chi Ri would be bad even if it had medium weight.

If you really want to carry games then you don't play tier 7 mediums. Statistically, the only one that can compete with the better heavies on unicum winrate is the T20, and that's only because it has lower MM weight.

[Sgtturret17 17]

Ground it fully out (sadly somewhere around 30 battles in I wrecked my super purple stats with a few rough days).  (begin opinion) I honestly like this tank more than the T20 (havent played 34-1 or the KV-13 yet, so cant compare to those).  The gun does have great pen for a T7 medium, and more DPM than the T20 or 34-1 (though the gold rounds were disappointing..  It can wreck face fairly easily at T7, is usable at T8, and is ofc pretty bad in 9s.

TL;DR: Liked the tank, has good gun and workable mobility, depression, etc.

 

[leggasiini 1,567]

Bought it today...

It looks disgustingly unplayable when stock, even when top tier (no depression, no armor, mediocre mobility, gun that is taken from tier 5 heavy and then DPM nerfed to tier 3 levels...) so i want to skip stock gun with free xp. The thing is though im now farming creds into AMX 50bae and need some free XP to research it (it will build up nicely when i farm credits) so im not gonna play Konstrukta any time soon. Only reason why i bought it now because its on sale at EU server. 

 

[Javajunkie8b 13]

I actually don't think this tank is as bad as people make it out to be.  66% over 53 battles so far and from what i've gathered about it...as long as you don't trade hp early and can make the lackluster -5 degrees of depression work this tank can actually surprise you...provided you have a good crew and equipment.  I've had a full girl crew since starting the line though so that has helped immensely with making the tank more competitive.

Acceleration is sluggish, even with BIA and off road driving it's still outpaced by many other mediums and good luck landing any shots while on the move.  It's just enough though to flex to the other flank if needed.  Combined with the good pen and an even better gold round though I find I have the option of playing 2nd line with the heavies if the team comp would leave me stranded in normal med spots.  

I run GLD, Rammer, and Optics giving 440 view range with both vr crew skills so it's also not too shabby as a spotter though a bad camo rating certainly doesn't help.   I'm sure without free exping the gun and a fresh crew though this tank would be a cringe worthy stock grind.

[skaeke 69]

Playing thru this tank now. Free xp'd the gun, have unlocked the turret & tracks. Running GLD, Rammer, Binocs. According to wotlabs playing it at a (meaningless) 2864wn8.

The title for this thread basically sums up the tank. It is 100% meh. In fact the only negatives I can think of are it's a little sluggish and it doesn't have any stand out (exploitable) positives. I certainly wouldn't free xp thru the tank (minus the gun. Took one look at the stock gun and gladly free xp'd the top gun) but there is also no way I would keep this tank.

Among the T7 meds I have played here's how I would rank it:

Comet > T-34-1 > T-20 > T-43 > T-34/100 > Panther > A-44 > Chi-Ri

(Vk3002D not included since I played that prior to the tank being changed.)

.. So right in the middle of a group that really drops in quality after the top 3.

 

Side note: Noticed one of the youtube channels I follow posted up a 2 1/2 hour video of grinding this tank. Linking it for anyone interested (fair warning its in Czech)

Spoiler

Catfoodcz t-34/100

 

[Felicius 170]

My bro is now grinding this meh shit...but tank is not THAT bad...

When you start playing it very cautiously, as strictly 2nd line support, it could deliver more as a heavy supporter, than as a "true" medium, in regard to positioning and carry possibilities.

Fight enemy heavies when they are distracted or while reloading. That 100 mm gun is too derpy to be used against other mediums (except Panter), and the DPM/mobility of the tank means Comets/T-43/A-44s would eat you alive in any kind of duel, from knife fighting dpm war, to sidescrape/ramm-shot scenarios A-44 excel. Dont get caught with A-43 or Crommie either...

And seriously, A-44 is actually on par with this tank, and miles better than Panther. Comet and T-20 are better true mediums, and more flexible due to gun depression (some) and non-derpy gun, but  T-34-1 is actually rather similar...both have good turrets ( T-34-1 better), rather weak hull that A-44 hides by sidescraping, and  T-34-1 by going hull down (of limited use due to bad gun depression - no ridges, instead of it city piles of rubble), both have camo ( T-34-1 much better, but A-44 have still too much to use it) that enables spotting, but guns too derpy to hit targets far away...

Of course, A-44 gun is in its own category of derpiness, but it is really fast, and  when contesting key medium areas you can ram first (due to good frontal armor you deal 30% more dmg even ramming panthers than taking it - even without ramming skill), comets and T20s for 500+ with almost full speed if they move just in your direction, and then shoot (too derpy to hit on the move beyond point blank), taking 700-800 dmg in a few seconds. Except Panther, other mediums you kill with next shot. 

Turret is stronkish and trollish, and you can peek a boom even heavies...and gold ammo is great in punching big holes in tier 8s...and more tame tier 9.

Frontal fires and engine damage are there just t prepare you for next 2 tanks in line, consider it as purely educational trait.

Comet > T-34-1 > T-20 > T-43 > T-34/100 = A-44> Panther > Chi-Ri

For pure lulz A-44 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Comet > T-34-1 > T-20 > T-43 > T-34/100 > Panther > Chi-Ri

Seroiously. Don't. Get. Shot. In. The. Lower. Plate.

On 2/2/2016 at 6:05 PM, skaeke said:

.. So right in the middle of a group that really drops in quality after the top 3.

You are so right about this

[leggasiini 1,567]

3.6k dmg and 4 kills is only 2nd class, and i even ran out of ammo in that match (although when there was 200 hp Chaffee left i shot few on ground in hope of that medal which you get when you kill last enemy with last ammo). Wtf, what the hell you need to do to get 1st class, let alone ace?

[DHP 502]

At the end of the grind of this bad boy, was expecting to suffer trough it. I endend doing above average in this tank it's not the BAD tank I was told. It was OK, nothing to write home about, nothing to crap on either. Better than T-43. Alpha is really good. 

[Felicius 170]

Well, i am closing the end of the grind on my bro's acc.

Actually doing pretty good. Better than him, and he is a better player than me.

This tank plays a bit like Obj 416...above avg penetration and alpha, with avg view range and meh acc...and no gun depression. Far worse camo, but i run ramm+EGLD+ binos, and have rly good results. Must shoot big targets that do not move too much. I play it fairly passive on open maps, and on closed ones i feel like a scavenger...never went on anyone with loaded gun no matter the tier, unless the turret points away from me. Always the last player alive. Plenty of HEAT to whack IS-3s/ KT ufp from 400 m. Bush is your friend. Full camo crew, but no 6th...so hard cover near bush, too.

P.S. the turret is trash. T-34-85 has much better one, a tier lower. No mantlet, and sub 100 mm guns penn almost always, while 34-85 could give on occasion 175 mm guns a run for its money by Russian troll factor/ Stalinum powder coated.

[MacusFlash 2,270]

Playing T-20.

Playing T-34/100.

 

[swyck 4]

OK, I'm at the t-25 right now and wanted to look into the T-34/100.  The consensus seems to be meh, but the stats I'm seeing at vbaddict do not say meh.  

Top win rate for mediums at tier VII. Second in damage and WN8 to T23E3 - which is a fairly rare tank so I'd put it #1 for main stream mediums.  All these numbers are significantly better than other tier VII mediums.  IMO can't ignore the stats for feels, so what does this mean?  

Is this tank actually not as bad as people are making it out to be?  Or is it just that top players are more likely to have ground up this line first, and they can make anything work?

[MacusFlash 2,270]

T-34/100 isn't bad tank at all. It's just uncomfortable to play.

[TheMarine0341 4,973]

To make this tank better, all Id do is push VR to 380, and let it use a VStab. Thats it. Way more comfy

[DHP 502]

Vstab 

[Birkovic 135]

16 hours ago, swyck said:

Is this tank actually not as bad as people are making it out to be?  Or is it just that top players are more likely to have ground up this line first, and they can make anything work?

I would go with the latter.

[Snoregasm2 646]

On 2/14/2016 at 3:09 PM, swyck said:

Is this tank actually not as bad as people are making it out to be?  Or is it just that top players are more likely to have ground up this line first, and they can make anything work?

That ^^^^.

It's terrible. All tier 7 mediums are terrible, but I'm certain it isn't as good as a T20. Most tier 7 meds have either terrible gun handling or poor mobility, and the T-34/100 has both.

[Felicius 170]

No gun depression on top of very slow heat ammo...while T20 has 10 deg and APCR...

Tier 7 meds suck.

Škoda suck more...

And its view range is abysmal. 

At least give it the T-34-85 turret (armor model), so it can bounce tier 5 guns.

[hayhay58c 47]

I really cant seem to find anything redeemable about this tank, besides the alpha. The armor is pathetic, and you have to constantly expose yourself because of the gun handling and depression.

[no_name_cro 2,034]

On 2/19/2016 at 0:16 AM, hayhay58c said:

I really cant seem to find anything redeemable about this tank, besides the alpha. The armor is pathetic, and you have to constantly expose yourself because of the gun handling and depression.

Makes you wonder if alpha is good, since it's only 10 more compared to T20. T-34-1 gets same alpha. :\

T-34-100 is just poorly balanced tank.

[Siimcy 3,522]

Is it just me or the gun dep with the top gun/turret doesn't even feel like it's bad? I could ez work ridges somehow in the first game with the T-34/100

 

Granted this MM was really good, first game in it as well.

 

Now I don't have to worry about acing it. Gun feels better because it's not a pea shooter.

 

 

EDIT:

Small review:

 

I'm 15 games into the grind. I have a WR of 40% in it, today the teams were EXTREMELY HORRIBLE. I mostly played against T9 tanks but even then this tank didn't feel as useless as Škoda T25 against T7s. I actually quite like it and I heard so much hate about it. I also got artied for full HP, ammoracked with 1st shell fired at me and pushed out by a CIRC fangrill clan member so I lost all my HP at the start of the game and died first, but even after that I do have a DPG of 1850. The gun depression somehow isn't even that bad, I had way bigger problems with other tanks in that regard. I'm using a consumable which gives you 100% exp for 2hours and I already have 27k exp even tho i pretty much lost everything today. 3 more days of playing for 2 hours and I should have the T8 in my garage.

 

Honestly said I never liked the Škoda T25 but this one is quite decent.

[Alex5978 21]

People aren't doing too bad in this tank, 3k dmg and 5 kills is only 1st class

fwiw, had a few similar T20 games yesterday and they were also 1st class

[Stige 103]

How the fuck do you play this shitbox...

I got yolod YET AGAIN because this shitbox doesn't just fucking scare ANYONE. Every red retard goes yolo on my ass if they are one tier higher, or a fucking scout...
A fucking T-34-1 one went yolo on my ass...

[Hally 126]

One of the worst tanks I've ever played. It is a large, sluggish target that carries zero scare factor, has armor that struggles vs O-I/KV-2 HE, and insufficient camo/accuracy to chai snipe effectively. I eventually free exp'd the last 50k of it, just couldn't take it anymore. I consider the old tier 9 T34 stock grind a far more pleasant experience than this tank elite.

[Panzer9Supertiger 365]

You know, I actually kinda like this thing. Don't get me wrong, it isn't the best t7 medium, and t7 mediums as a whole are pretty bad, but I love the gun. Great pen/alpha for the tier, and the gun handling doesn't even feel that bad. biggest problem for me is the awful hull armor + 5 degrees of gun depression often requires you to overexpose yourself in order to get damage.

[BlackAdder 1,390]

OMFG this sucks on so many levels...

I never was so conscious and this is end result.

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