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Tier 8 Premiums, a recount. *Mar20th M46 KR update

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Well, what it says on the title, given people often ask what premium tanks to get, I thought it would be a good idea to write what I think of each premium tank, given my familiarity in the field.

It won't be organized, mostly rumbling, and it will only be my opinion from my perspective and i will add/revise as I continue.

Mediums

59-Patton

What can I say, what happens when you combine the best and worst of 2 tanks.

Shell cost of AP is only 305 credit, which make it an extremely efficient credit/cost tank, Speed wise it is actually faster than the Pershing/46 KR and the armor is reasonably good against 180-ish pen guns at mid range.

190 penetration thanks to the recent buff enables it to penetrate a great deal of tanks without resorting to HEAT, and speaking of HEAT, its not bad as hard as it is to believe since unlike most HEAT shells that has less shell velocity than its AP/APCR counterpart, 59-Patton's HEAT seems to be based on the US 90mm, which actually has 1200m/s over AP's 900 m/s.

The comfort level of the tank is above average, 9 degrees of depression to the side is fairly good for a tank of its armor level.

The armor again, aside from the hatch, it is above average in-terms of protection relative to most other tier 8 premium mediums. Whatever you do though, do not poke towards your right hand side, because your hatch will show up before your gun, and you don't need me to tell what happens when that happens.

 

To be honest, I thought the 59-Patton was going to be a shit-show, while it is far from perfect, it has exceeded my expectation in every way.

Would I recommend buying it if you only need credit? no, because there are better alternatives. But if you need to train a Chinese crew, its far superior compared to 112 or 111.

 

AMX Chasseur de chars

FV4202 (P)

The fallen prince, disgraced from tier 10 to tier 8, and somehow still can't pull its weight for a damn.

First of all, despite having 226 mm of AP penetration, the tank is terrible for credit making, primarily thanks to the fact that its standard AP shell cost  680/shell, relative to 250-300 of every other 240-ish alpha mediums, this shell cost will add up if you are farming credit in the long run.

Protection-wise the tank has no armor based on thickness, all it has are near ricochet angled armor plates at 65-67 degrees, which means if you just angle slightly to 70 degrees, you will be able to block most AP/APCR shells, Now the problem with armor that is all about ricochet is that, against HEAT, which will only ricochet at 80 degrees, it will get punctured like a a sheet of paper against Mike Tyson.

Also not mention are the cheeks, which has only 85mm of armor at 57 degrees, and theres no getting out of this one

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Low top speed also hurts this tank, as you simply will not be able to chase down stragglers when you win, leading to dmg/credit loss, this will also force a change to your playstyle, as you need to be on the frontline or you won't be getting any damage.

I don't know what to say about this thing, currently the tank has armor thanks to the fact that it is new, but when people learn of the cheeks, it will be even worse than the CDC or 59Patton in a poke fight. Its not good at credit making and not good at stat padding either.

The only real redemption I guess is the fact that there are no real alternative to British premium tanks.

Occasional crazy bounces are fun and all, but is it worth 30 euro? errrr i don't think so.

 

 

M46 Patton KR

A premium tank created after WG's change of direction in-terms of the strength of premium tanks, A tank thats worth every dime.

shell cost of 255, penetration of 192 makes APCR redundant in most situations, large carry capacity means you can carry enough spare HE shells to deal with artilleries and Rhinemetal TDs(This is actually very useful when you see a M44 and don't want to eat a fat 155mm HEAT shell when your first shot don't finish him)

Speed-wise it is the same as Pershing, not fast enough to contest hills on maps like Mines(not that a tier 8 medium should ever contest these things), but fast enough to flex around the map.

Turret armor is weaker than the Pershing by a rather large margin, but overall there are enough armor(102mm) to not be penetrated by artillery frontally and produce occasional bounces when hulldown. 1450 health that rivals heavy tanks certain helps it stay in prolonged firefights as well. Oh, did I mention that your crew/modules rarely suffers damage? Once you get safe stowage, you shouldn't worry about excessive module damage/fires that plagues many of the other premium tanks.

To avoid having your turret turned into swiss cheese, when poking out of hulldown, as always, slide sideways to make it harder to enemy to aim in

Spoiler

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Biggest advantage of this tank over every other competitor in tier 8 is the gun handling, at 0.12/0.12/0.08, it surpasses even most tier 10 mediums, although its inherent accuracy is below average(0.38), in combat scenarios this tank will hit far more shots than the 58 mutz despite its relatively slower projectile speed(850m/s vs 1000m/s).

Oh right, this tank also allows 5 crews, meaning  your commander don't have to learn recon and you get an extra 10 meters of view range for free thanks to radioman having no other really good skills unlike commander

Overall this is a very good tank both in-terms of padding and winning, enough speed/armor/comfort/penetration to handle most situations, and APCR shells with this level of gun handling can make it an annoyance even at tier 10, not to mention it is also a very good stronghold tank as it fairs well against all but the most serious composition.

Buy. Seriously.

 

M4A1 Revalorisé

Panther mit 8,8 cm L/71

Panzer 58 Mutz

STA-2

T-34-3

T-54 first prototype

T26E4 SuperPershing

T95E2

Type 59

Heavies

112

FCM 50 t

IS-3A

IS-5 (Object 730)

IS-6

KV-5

Löwe

M6A2E1

T34

WZ-111

Tank Destroyers

8,8 cm Pak 43 Jagdtiger

Kanonenjagdpanzer

 

 

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Thats a bit rood chode, assuming you learnt swedish recently :E

 

I reckon the mutz is the only one peaking my interest atm. 

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waahhh, only 3 section, other one not finish??

 

there is no equipment recommended?

Edited by IanSanJR

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5 minutes ago, CarbonWard said:

Friend pls, i just got home from after drycleaning everything I wore today.

Was riding the bus and realized there were fucking bedbugs on the seats.

buy a car with all those monies from padding :doge: 

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10 minutes ago, CarbonWard said:

Friend pls, i just got home from after drycleaning everything I wore today.

Was riding the bus and realized there were fucking bedbugs on the seats.

At least it knows what quality blood is.

It will be a future super unicum bedbug.

One day.

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T-34-3 and Super Pershing are the only ones really worth writing about anyways, they're the best, other than the IS-6.

But it's not as if anyone even needs to write anything about the IS-6...

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Came for the KR and Mutz write up, got told shit smells like shit :feelsbad:

Will check back in periodically though, most stats I've seen from Carbon recently have been epic tier 8 prem sessions.

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I really wonder what you think about the rest.

The IS-6 while it's armor got buffed lost a lot due to is3 buffs and the fact the jap heavies were introduced. So many more tanks you can't do shit about. The Wz-111 here has a slight advantage due to 250pen heat but the lfp is killing me on that so I'm torn which tank to use now. Kv5 seems to perform best but I'd like to try one of the new ones not named CDC since it performs like shit for me. Can do damage but can't carry due to the fact it gets focused like crazy.

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13 hours ago, CarbonWard said:

Do you know how fucking expensive insurance are in Southern Ontario?

:kjugh:

Cant be any more expensive than insuring a 20 year old (Me) in a 2015 Black Edition Camaro. It wasn't something I got from my parents and I'm willing to pay for it :disco:

Canada might be expensive at times, but is by no means as jewish as an American auto-insurance firm :serb:

 

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14 hours ago, CarbonWard said:

Friend pls, i just got home from after drycleaning everything I wore today.

Was riding the bus and realized there were fucking bedbugs on the seats.

GTA Transit seats could use some padding :yuefei:

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