Rexxie

Elimination: Tier 10 - E5 Triumphant! (COMPLETE)

863 posts in this topic

5 minutes ago, conjay810 said:

I'm a blitz whore here, but this is interesting. Our tier 10 game is very very different (STB has meh DPM, 4202 highest 105 DPM LOL, IS-7 has more health than 215B)

wat

since when

i did play blitz about 600 battles and if i remember right 215b had 2200 while is-7 1950, then buffed to 2050 or 2100

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

IS-7 has 2150, 215B 2100 LOL E5 2000 HP

FFS the E-100 has 2300 HP

but we have quickammoswitch (without reloading, seems legit) and hit skins 

the 62A has the same HP as the E50M (1900 LOL)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
22 minutes ago, TheMarine0341 said:

I think Tier 9 could be more interesting

Yeah, the top end of tier 9 is statistically competitive these days. There's even the 430 v2 and T54E1 which perform much better than their reputation. There are more obvious trash tanks than tier 10, but the order of elimination is still interesting.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, RichardNixon said:

There are more obvious trash tanks than tier 10, but the order of elimination is still interesting.

If anything, tier 10 has more trash tanks than tier 9. Many tier 9 TDs are actually superior to their T10 counterparts (conway, obj 704, t30, jagtiger is more constinent than jageru, probably foch too although its fucking shit too), there is no really bad tier 9 HTs (apart from Type 4 which is getting very notable mobility buff and 50 120, i think m103 is kinda questionable too). None of the meds are bad either (expect lorraine but even that is okay with gold spam). 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

TVP T50/51: 23
AMX 50B: 31
Batchat 25t: 14 Despite how good of a scout it is, the abysmal gun handling just ruins the tank for me. Missing 1-2 shots per clip gets really frustrating when there is only so much damage you can do. Plus fuck 30 round max, who thought that up?
E 100: 29
E 50 M: 26
STB-1: 7 
FV215b: 20
M48 Patton: 43 For the first time this thread (I think), I vote this one up again. It is still the best of the list, and will hopefully remain at the top. Gun handling meta is #1 at the moment, because pew pew.
T110E5: 29
T-62A: 22
Object 140: 23 
IS-4: 9

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

TVP T50/51: 23
AMX 50B: 31
Batchat 25t: 14 
E 100: 29
E 50 M: 26

STB-1: 7 - 3 = 4.  390 alpha, 10 degrees of gun depression, turret armor, speed, and those mad deeps - how can you not love this tank?  All too easily, I regret to say.  Gun handling that would give a KV-2 cancer means it's a good thing you fire lots, because you'll miss lots too unless you're at stupidly close ranges.  That turret armor?  Yeah, about that.  There is some, except, you know, in the most common place you'll get shot in the turret if you're poking - right in the middle.  Not an awful tank, but we're out of terrible ones, and this one has some upside but has some glaring flaws that cost it damage and wins.
FV215b: 20 + 1 = 21.  Excellent gun handling and rate of fire, hard turret, reasonable health pool allows for effective trades and late-game cleanup. This tank is the king of a standoff defensive engagement or a hull-down position. Unless you get skycancered, you are unbelievably hard to dig out.
M48 Patton: 43 
T110E5: 29
T-62A: 22
Object 140: 23 
IS-4: 9

Also seconding _Marine's vote for tier 9 next, as it has excellent diversity and many genuine contenders for best tank in each category.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Honestly I was more interested in T9 when I made the suggestion about other tiers but incorrectly assumed nobody cared about T9. 

Going out on a tangent here but Id be super interested in T7 and T9 CW'S. Just as a change of base. Bored of T8 and T10

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Glad to see the 215b getting the love it deserves regardless of what people in dead clans think.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

STB-1: 4
IS-4: 9
Batchat 25t: 14+1= 15
FV215b: 21-3= 18
T-62A: 22
Object 140: 23
TVP T50/51: 23
E 50 M: 26
E 100: 29 
T110E5: 29
AMX 50B: 31
M48 Patton: 43 

Bat is perfect to get rid of these pesty TVPs in a clip; the 215b just takes too much fire and arty for my liking.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Sergeant_Fgt said:

215b just takes too much fire and arty for my liking.

and yet the E100 goes untouched?

Don't get me wrong, the E hunda is pretty nice for a superheavy, but saying the 215 is bad because heavy problems, then not mentioning the E 100 has worse heavy problems makes little sense.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Question - what is our "end state" for the thread?  I ask because it seems like it might make sense to stop before all but one tank is eliminated - once you're down to one tank from each category, the question of which is better becomes less meaningful.  Better at what?  Flexing and dealing damage?  Holding/pushing a corridor?  It depends.  At some point, we're going to have only tanks that are very strong in their roles...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

STB-1: 4
IS-4: 6 Armor is not reliable
Batchat 25t: 16 Who would down vote this tank? Sure gun handling is bad but you still have the deadly 2k Dmg clip and more mobility than a 50/51
FV215b: 18
T-62A: 22
Object 140: 23
TVP T50/51: 23
E 50 M: 26
E 100: 29 
T110E5: 29
AMX 50B: 31
M48 Patton: 43 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

STB-1: 4
IS-4: 6
Batchat 25t: 16
FV215b: 18
T-62A: 22
Object 140: 23
TVP T50/51: 23
E 50 M: 26 - 3 = 23 Of the remaining this is the only one I don't want to play. The E5 is the only Heavium you need, there's a reason I sold this for the E-50, same tank at tier 9 is op but at tier 10 is meh.
E 100: 29 
T110E5: 29
AMX 50B: 31 + 1 = 32 Only have 4 games in this thing, but had a blast in those games. This thing is great.
M48 Patton: 43 

Edited by Meirzin
Forgot to upvote one

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

idk Kolni, I have a soft spot for the bat. But the E50M is one of the best meds around for sure.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Kolni said:

and now people say that the E 50M is weak :doge: and IS-4, E 100 and BatChat are still on the list :serb: 

I would rather play those 3 than the 50M :/

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Not sure about the IS-4 and E100, but the E 50M is better than the IS-7. Yeah, it's pretty decent in the right situation but it doesn't have the DPM or gun handling to be anything other than a fucking turd in a lot of situations.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Are we talking good tanks for being shitty wn8 padders or good tanks for winning games? I get confused on this forum a lot these days it seems.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Dukkerz said:

and yet the E100 goes untouched?

Don't get me wrong, the E hunda is pretty nice for a superheavy, but saying the 215 is bad because heavy problems, then not mentioning the E 100 has worse heavy problems makes little sense.

Well there is enough useless spam in here anyway, so whatever.

#1 I didnt say its bad
#2 can only down-vote one tank at a time
But fenks reminding me that getting set on fire up to 3 times a game is 'heavy tank game play' 
In the end its up to personal preference, sorry if I hurt ur feelings :facepalm:

b4 u go on, Im not interested in a discussion, so be happy that I even wrote this reply

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, Gandaran said:

Are we talking good tanks for being shitty wn8 padders or good tanks for winning games? I get confused on this forum a lot these days it seems.

DAE le E 50M is only good for padding?

No, the E 50M's expecteds are pretty average for a T10 last time I checked, and mobility, and ability to kill things matter for carrying more than having a good turret.

7 minutes ago, Sergeant_Fgt said:

Im not interested in a discussion, so be happy that I even wrote this reply

"I'm too much of a bitch to back up my retarded opinions, but I'll just negrep instead when I get called out on it."

Such a positive attitude, I guess I can't expect much from people who think the 215b is bad.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.