leggasiini 1,567 Share Posted May 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, conjay810 said: I'm a blitz whore here, but this is interesting. Our tier 10 game is very very different (STB has meh DPM, 4202 highest 105 DPM LOL, IS-7 has more health than 215B) wat since when i did play blitz about 600 battles and if i remember right 215b had 2200 while is-7 1950, then buffed to 2050 or 2100 Link to post Share on other sites
conjay810 14 Share Posted May 12, 2016 IS-7 has 2150, 215B 2100 LOL E5 2000 HP FFS the E-100 has 2300 HP but we have quickammoswitch (without reloading, seems legit) and hit skins the 62A has the same HP as the E50M (1900 LOL) Link to post Share on other sites
RichardNixon 835 Share Posted May 12, 2016 22 minutes ago, TheMarine0341 said: I think Tier 9 could be more interesting Yeah, the top end of tier 9 is statistically competitive these days. There's even the 430 v2 and T54E1 which perform much better than their reputation. There are more obvious trash tanks than tier 10, but the order of elimination is still interesting. Link to post Share on other sites
leggasiini 1,567 Share Posted May 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, RichardNixon said: There are more obvious trash tanks than tier 10, but the order of elimination is still interesting. If anything, tier 10 has more trash tanks than tier 9. Many tier 9 TDs are actually superior to their T10 counterparts (conway, obj 704, t30, jagtiger is more constinent than jageru, probably foch too although its fucking shit too), there is no really bad tier 9 HTs (apart from Type 4 which is getting very notable mobility buff and 50 120, i think m103 is kinda questionable too). None of the meds are bad either (expect lorraine but even that is okay with gold spam). Link to post Share on other sites
kolni 69,670,872 Share Posted May 12, 2016 TVP T50/51: 23 AMX 50B: 31Batchat 25t: 17 E 100: 29 E 50 M: 26 STB-1: 7 FV215b: 20 M48 Patton: 42 T110E5: 29 T-62A: 22 Object 140: 23 IS-4: 9 Link to post Share on other sites
Luna 3,443 Share Posted May 12, 2016 TVP T50/51: 23 AMX 50B: 31Batchat 25t: 14 Despite how good of a scout it is, the abysmal gun handling just ruins the tank for me. Missing 1-2 shots per clip gets really frustrating when there is only so much damage you can do. Plus fuck 30 round max, who thought that up? E 100: 29 E 50 M: 26 STB-1: 7 FV215b: 20M48 Patton: 43 For the first time this thread (I think), I vote this one up again. It is still the best of the list, and will hopefully remain at the top. Gun handling meta is #1 at the moment, because pew pew. T110E5: 29 T-62A: 22 Object 140: 23 IS-4: 9 Link to post Share on other sites
_Juris 216 Share Posted May 12, 2016 TVP T50/51: 23AMX 50B: 31Batchat 25t: 14 E 100: 29E 50 M: 26STB-1: 7 - 3 = 4. 390 alpha, 10 degrees of gun depression, turret armor, speed, and those mad deeps - how can you not love this tank? All too easily, I regret to say. Gun handling that would give a KV-2 cancer means it's a good thing you fire lots, because you'll miss lots too unless you're at stupidly close ranges. That turret armor? Yeah, about that. There is some, except, you know, in the most common place you'll get shot in the turret if you're poking - right in the middle. Not an awful tank, but we're out of terrible ones, and this one has some upside but has some glaring flaws that cost it damage and wins.FV215b: 20 + 1 = 21. Excellent gun handling and rate of fire, hard turret, reasonable health pool allows for effective trades and late-game cleanup. This tank is the king of a standoff defensive engagement or a hull-down position. Unless you get skycancered, you are unbelievably hard to dig out.M48 Patton: 43 T110E5: 29T-62A: 22Object 140: 23 IS-4: 9 Also seconding _Marine's vote for tier 9 next, as it has excellent diversity and many genuine contenders for best tank in each category. Link to post Share on other sites
TheSovereign 229 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Honestly I was more interested in T9 when I made the suggestion about other tiers but incorrectly assumed nobody cared about T9. Going out on a tangent here but Id be super interested in T7 and T9 CW'S. Just as a change of base. Bored of T8 and T10 Nicook5 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dukkerz 180 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Glad to see the 215b getting the love it deserves regardless of what people in dead clans think. Link to post Share on other sites
kolni 69,670,872 Share Posted May 12, 2016 6 minutes ago, Dukkerz said: Glad to see the 215b getting the love it deserves regardless of what people in dead clans think. everyone knows that the Leo 1 soft stats' all that matters anyway Dukkerz and _Juris 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Sergeant_Fgt 479 Share Posted May 12, 2016 STB-1: 4 IS-4: 9 Batchat 25t: 14+1= 15 FV215b: 21-3= 18 T-62A: 22 Object 140: 23 TVP T50/51: 23 E 50 M: 26 E 100: 29 T110E5: 29 AMX 50B: 31 M48 Patton: 43 Bat is perfect to get rid of these pesty TVPs in a clip; the 215b just takes too much fire and arty for my liking. Link to post Share on other sites
Dukkerz 180 Share Posted May 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Sergeant_Fgt said: 215b just takes too much fire and arty for my liking. and yet the E100 goes untouched? Don't get me wrong, the E hunda is pretty nice for a superheavy, but saying the 215 is bad because heavy problems, then not mentioning the E 100 has worse heavy problems makes little sense. Luna, TheMarine0341, rojo180 and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites
_Juris 216 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Question - what is our "end state" for the thread? I ask because it seems like it might make sense to stop before all but one tank is eliminated - once you're down to one tank from each category, the question of which is better becomes less meaningful. Better at what? Flexing and dealing damage? Holding/pushing a corridor? It depends. At some point, we're going to have only tanks that are very strong in their roles... Link to post Share on other sites
Vetro 751 Share Posted May 12, 2016 lol why is the IS-4 still on the list? Here are four turret penetrations to remind you why this tank sucks(one impact disappeared): http://i.imgur.com/s6CpMXS TheMarine0341 and Snoregasm2 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Wyrda1 44 Share Posted May 12, 2016 STB-1: 4IS-4: 6 Armor is not reliableBatchat 25t: 16 Who would down vote this tank? Sure gun handling is bad but you still have the deadly 2k Dmg clip and more mobility than a 50/51 FV215b: 18 T-62A: 22 Object 140: 23 TVP T50/51: 23 E 50 M: 26 E 100: 29 T110E5: 29 AMX 50B: 31 M48 Patton: 43 Dukkerz 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Meirzin 284 Share Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) STB-1: 4 IS-4: 6 Batchat 25t: 16 FV215b: 18 T-62A: 22 Object 140: 23 TVP T50/51: 23E 50 M: 26 - 3 = 23 Of the remaining this is the only one I don't want to play. The E5 is the only Heavium you need, there's a reason I sold this for the E-50, same tank at tier 9 is op but at tier 10 is meh. E 100: 29 T110E5: 29AMX 50B: 31 + 1 = 32 Only have 4 games in this thing, but had a blast in those games. This thing is great. M48 Patton: 43 Edited May 12, 2016 by Meirzin Forgot to upvote one Link to post Share on other sites
kolni 69,670,872 Share Posted May 12, 2016 and now people say that the E 50M is weak and IS-4, E 100 and BatChat are still on the list Luna and rojo180 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Dukkerz 180 Share Posted May 12, 2016 idk Kolni, I have a soft spot for the bat. But the E50M is one of the best meds around for sure. rojo180 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Meirzin 284 Share Posted May 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Kolni said: and now people say that the E 50M is weak and IS-4, E 100 and BatChat are still on the list I would rather play those 3 than the 50M :/ Link to post Share on other sites
Gandaran 1,047 Share Posted May 12, 2016 How did the IS-7 get eliminated before the batchat, E-50m or is-4? Monkey, Drunken_Walrus and Haarmless 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
KingYoshiLuca 771 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Just now, Gandaran said: How did the IS-7 get eliminated before the batchat or E-50m? Because IS-7 is shit no_name_cro, KurtaMurta, Drunken_Walrus and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dukkerz 180 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Not sure about the IS-4 and E100, but the E 50M is better than the IS-7. Yeah, it's pretty decent in the right situation but it doesn't have the DPM or gun handling to be anything other than a fucking turd in a lot of situations. Link to post Share on other sites
Gandaran 1,047 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Are we talking good tanks for being shitty wn8 padders or good tanks for winning games? I get confused on this forum a lot these days it seems. Monkey, PityFool, TheMarine0341 and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites
Sergeant_Fgt 479 Share Posted May 12, 2016 3 hours ago, Dukkerz said: and yet the E100 goes untouched? Don't get me wrong, the E hunda is pretty nice for a superheavy, but saying the 215 is bad because heavy problems, then not mentioning the E 100 has worse heavy problems makes little sense. Well there is enough useless spam in here anyway, so whatever. #1 I didnt say its bad #2 can only down-vote one tank at a time But fenks reminding me that getting set on fire up to 3 times a game is 'heavy tank game play' In the end its up to personal preference, sorry if I hurt ur feelings b4 u go on, Im not interested in a discussion, so be happy that I even wrote this reply Luna, KingYoshiLuca, hayhay58c and 6 others 3 6 Link to post Share on other sites
Dukkerz 180 Share Posted May 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, Gandaran said: Are we talking good tanks for being shitty wn8 padders or good tanks for winning games? I get confused on this forum a lot these days it seems. DAE le E 50M is only good for padding? No, the E 50M's expecteds are pretty average for a T10 last time I checked, and mobility, and ability to kill things matter for carrying more than having a good turret. 7 minutes ago, Sergeant_Fgt said: Im not interested in a discussion, so be happy that I even wrote this reply "I'm too much of a bitch to back up my retarded opinions, but I'll just negrep instead when I get called out on it." Such a positive attitude, I guess I can't expect much from people who think the 215b is bad. kolni, Roku, KingYoshiLuca and 2 others 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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