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Elimination: Tier 9 - Skoda Victorious! (COMPLETE)

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WZ-120: 20
WZ-111 1-4: 20
Skoda T 50: 21
Foch: 17
AMX 50 120: 17
Lorraine 40t: 14
AMX 30: 20
Waffen IV: 20
Jagdtiger: 20
VK 45.02 B: 22
E 75: 19 Everything you could want - high alpha, armor that is usable and works in 10s, works against 9s, bullies 8s, and shits on 7s. Ever tried circling an E75? That thing turns fast for a 90 ton tank. Good amount of HP. The tank just works so well.
E 50: 22
Leopard PT A: 20
Type 61: 20
Centurion 7/1: 21
Tortoise: 20
Conqueror: 20
Conway: 20
T54E1: 20
T30: 20
T95: 5 despite having huge alpha the platform is horrible. Still, it's better than the Type 4 but that thing is already gone
M46 Patton: 25
M103: 20
Object 704: 20
SU-122-54: 20
T-54: 21
Obj 430 II: 21
T-10: 21
ST-I: 20

Edited by RC_Tank

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WZ-120: 20
WZ-111 1-4: 20
Skoda T 50: 21 
Foch: 17
AMX 50 120: 17
Lorraine 40t: 14 
AMX 30: 20
Waffen IV: 20
Jagdtiger: 20
VK 45.02 B: 22
E 75: 19
E 50: 23 
Leopard PT A: 20
Type 61: 20
Centurion 7/1: 21 
Tortoise: 20
Conqueror: 20
Conway: 20
T54E1: 20
T30: 20
T95: 2 Its speed limit, need I say more?
M46 Patton: 25
M103: 20
Object 704: 20
SU-122-54: 20
T-54: 21
Obj 430 II: 21
T-10: 22 It goes 50 kph with a 122 and the second (?) highest dpm in tier (for heavies, of course). After the buffs, it's better than the WZ. 
ST-I: 20

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WZ-120: 20
WZ-111 1-4: 20
Skoda T 50: 21 
Foch: 17
AMX 50 120: 17
Lorraine 40t: 14 
AMX 30: 20
Waffen IV: 20
Jagdtiger: 20
VK 45.02 B: 22
E 75: 19
E 50: 23 
Leopard PT A: 21 - highler underated. Definitely fun to play with recent buffs
Type 61: 20
Centurion 7/1: 21 
Tortoise: 20
Conqueror: 20
Conway: 20
T54E1: 20
T30: 20
T95: 0 Pure shit
M46 Patton: 25
M103: 20
Object 704: 20
SU-122-54: 20
T-54: 21
Obj 430 II: 21

T-10: 22

ST-I: 20

 

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5 minutes ago, RC_Tank said:

E 75: 19 I dont know why this thing is down here already, good mobility for the weight, armor that works well even against 10s and is a total fucking bully against 8s, let alone 7s. Gun is great as well even if the DPM is horrible the alpha is very nice. Great tank for carrying.

 
 

The problem about E75 is that this thing has no armor against HEAT/APCR, literally paper. and the gun doesn't really make up for it. It is good at bulling T8/T7s, but E50 does that just as good if not better.

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Just now, Megrin said:

The problem about E75 is that this thing has no armor against HEAT/APCR, literally paper. and the gun doesn't really make up for it.

Most heavy tanks can say the same thing though, unless it's Russian of course. It really depends on who (skillwise) is shooting at you though, because I've had HEAT bounced all over this thing, same with APCR. 

I do agree the gun is not great and I just rewrote my description for the tank. Great APCR round though, but the DPM really hurts.

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WZ-120: 20
WZ-111 1-4: 21 (+1) - IS-7 gun on tier 9 with mobile platform = win
Skoda T 50: 21
Foch: 17
AMX 50 120: 17
Lorraine 40t: 14
AMX 30: 20
Waffen IV: 20
Jagdtiger: 20
VK 45.02 B: 22
E 75: 19
E 50: 23
Leopard PT A: 21
Type 61: 20
Centurion 7/1: 21
Tortoise: 20
Conqueror: 20
Conway: 20
T54E1: 20
T30: 20
M46 Patton: 25
M103: 20
Object 704: 17 (-3) - There used to be a time when tanks had cammo as their defining strength. Now, those that relied on cammo can go fuck them selves. Obj 704 was left with derpy gun, no turret and shitty armor. Much shit, such sad...
SU-122-54: 20
T-54: 21
Obj 430 II: 21
T-10: 22
ST-I: 20

Edited by KurtaMurta
RC_Tank is a nice guy

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3 minutes ago, KurtaMurta said:

WZ-120: 20
WZ-111 1-4: 21 (+1) - IS-7 gun on tier 9 with mobile platform = win
Skoda T 50: 21
Foch: 17
AMX 50 120: 17
Lorraine 40t: 14
AMX 30: 20
Waffen IV: 20
Jagdtiger: 20
VK 45.02 B: 22
E 75: 19
E 50: 23
Leopard PT A: 21
Type 61: 20
Centurion 7/1: 21
Tortoise: 20
Conqueror: 20
Conway: 20
T54E1: 20
T30: 20
M46 Patton: 25
M103: 20
Object 704: 17 (-3) - There used to be a time when tanks had cammo as their defining strength. Now, those that relied on cammo can go fuck them selves. Obj 704 was left with derpy gun, no turret and shitty armor. Much shit, such sad...
SU-122-54: 20
T-54: 21
Obj 430 II: 21
T-10: 22
ST-I: 20

Forum still hates me - so no colors, only bold for my choices.

You can paste this if you'd like:

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WZ-120: 20
WZ-111 1-4: 21 (+1) - IS-7 gun on tier 9 with mobile platform = win
Skoda T 50: 21
Foch: 17
AMX 50 120: 17
Lorraine 40t: 14
AMX 30: 20
Waffen IV: 20
Jagdtiger: 20
VK 45.02 B: 22
E 75: 19
E 50: 23
Leopard PT A: 21
Type 61: 20
Centurion 7/1: 21
Tortoise: 20
Conqueror: 20
Conway: 20
T54E1: 20
T30: 20
M46 Patton: 25
M103: 20
Object 704: 17 (-3) - There used to be a time when tanks had cammo as their defining strength. Now, those that relied on cammo can go fuck them selves. Obj 704 was left with derpy gun, no turret and shitty armor. Much shit, such sad...
SU-122-54: 20
T-54: 21
Obj 430 II: 21
T-10: 22
ST-I: 20

 

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WZ-120: 20
WZ-111 1-4: 21
Skoda T 50: 21 
Foch: 17
AMX 50 120 14  Researched: AMX 50 B researched. Undistributed experience spent: 0
Free Experience spent: 212,100.
 
Lorraine 40t: 14 
AMX 30: 20
Waffen IV: 20
Jagdtiger: 20
VK 45.02 B: 22
E 75: 19
E 50: 23 
Leopard PT A: 21 
Type 61: 20
Centurion 7/1: 21 
Tortoise: 20
Conqueror: 20
Conway: 20
T54E1: 21 This tank is just insane. The armor is enough to bounce tier 8s and you can delete
them in 6.66 seconds which is just hilarious. In tier 10 the pen struggles against heavies but
it can really punish people if they don't pay attention to it.

T30: 20
M46 Patton: 25
M103: 20
Object 704: 17
SU-122-54: 20
T-54: 21
Obj 430 II: 21

T-10: 22

ST-I: 20

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16 minutes ago, RC_Tank said:

Most heavy tanks can say the same thing though, unless it's Russian of course. It really depends on who (skillwise) is shooting at you though, because I've had HEAT bounced all over this thing, same with APCR. 

I do agree the gun is not great and I just rewrote my description for the tank. Great APCR round though, but the DPM really hurts.

 
 

The armor of E75 is like this, you spam HEAT at the general direction of the turret at any distance and you would consider not penning it unlucky, and unlike E100 there is no way for you to angle that turret. Also, the APCR, that 311 pen drops to like 260 something or lower when you are shooting a target 500m away, so you will have a hard time penning(even hitting) armored TDs like Jagdtiger because your prem ammo has the highest penetration drop in the game. Conq, T-10, WZ-111 1-4 all have obvious weakspots for you to shoot at, but if they hide weak their hull armor, you wouldn't even bother trying to fight them because it is just a bad engagement for you.

What's more, E50's armor profile is almost just as good against HEAT, but it is much more agile and with that gun handling you can almost snapshot to limit your exposure time.

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WZ-120: 20
WZ-111 1-4: 21
Skoda T 50: 22 (21+1) I'm a shitty player and I average almost 3k damage in it. It's broken, but fantastic
Foch: 17
AMX 50 120 14  
Lorraine 40t: 14 
AMX 30: 20
Waffen IV: 20
Jagdtiger: 20
VK 45.02 B: 22
E 75: 19
E 50: 23 
Leopard PT A: 21 
Type 61: 20
Centurion 7/1: 18 (21-3) Shitty DPM, slow AF, horrible gold round, only good thing is gun depression and penetration. idk why people love it so much.
Tortoise: 20
Conqueror: 20
Conway: 20
T54E1: 21
T30: 20
M46 Patton: 25
M103: 20
Object 704: 17
SU-122-54: 20
T-54: 21
Obj 430 II: 21

T-10: 22

ST-I: 20

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WZ-120: 20
WZ-111 1-4: 21
Skoda T 50: 22 
Foch: 17
AMX 50 120 14
Lorraine 40t: 15 I don't understand what people want from a tank. It goes as fast as a light, it has adequate camo and a 1.800dmg clip. Having so much fun with it. I like it more than my t54.
AMX 30: 20
Waffen IV: 20
Jagdtiger: 20
VK 45.02 B: 22
E 75: 19
E 50: 23 
Leopard PT A: 21 
Type 61: 20
Centurion 7/1: 18
Tortoise: 17 No just no. Way too slow and DPM doesn't matter because one of the loaders is dead every single time you get shot. Gold rounds go through it like paper.
Conqueror: 20
Conway: 20
T54E1: 21
T30: 20
M46 Patton: 25
M103: 20
Object 704: 17
SU-122-54: 20
T-54: 21
Obj 430 II: 21

T-10: 22

ST-I: 20

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WZ-120: 20
WZ-111 1-4: 21
Skoda T 50: 22 
Foch: 17
AMX 50 120 14
Lorraine 40t: 15
Waffen IV: 20
Jagdtiger: 20
VK 45.02 B: 22
E 75: 19
E 50: 23 
Leopard PT A: 21 
Type 61: 20
Centurion 7/1: 18
Tortoise: 17 
Conqueror: 20
Conway: 20
T54E1: 21
T30: 20
M46 Patton: 25
M103: 17 Fucking awful tier 9 heavy. Turret is trash. Worse view range than the T 32, Hull armor is mediocre, and speed is decent at best.
Object 704: 17
SU-122-54: 20
T-54: 21
Obj 430 II: 21

T-10: 23 The HEAVIUM 122mm gun with good gun handling along with good pen, Very strong turret, and great mobility. 

ST-I: 20

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WZ-120: 20
WZ-111 1-4: 21
Skoda T 50: 22 
Foch: 17
AMX 50 120 14
Lorraine 40t: 15
AMX 30: 20
Waffen IV: 20
Jagdtiger: 20
VK 45.02 B: 22
E 75: 19
E 50: 23 
Leopard PT A: 18 Ammo rack damages, as well as lack luster dpm and overall meh stats make it a poor t9 medium. I would give it credit for some of it's uniqueness if the AMX 30 wasn't a thing.
Type 61: 20
Centurion 7/1: 18
Tortoise: 17
Conqueror: 20
Conway: 20
T54E1: 21
T30: 21 This is an unconventional choice, but the 155 gun with a fully rotatable turret, good armor on turret (as well as ability to bounce some shots from the hull), amazing pen, and decent speed (at least compared to T95) makes for one of my favorite tanks in the game when you can get into a vaguely decent spot.
M46 Patton: 25
M103: 17
Object 704: 17
SU-122-54: 20
T-54: 21
Obj 430 II: 21

T-10: 23

ST-I: 20

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1 hour ago, Megrin said:

The armor of E75 is like this, you spam HEAT at the general direction of the turret at any distance and you would consider not penning it unlucky, and unlike E100 there is no way for you to angle that turret. Also, the APCR, that 311 pen drops to like 260 something or lower when you are shooting a target 500m away, so you will have a hard time penning(even hitting) armored TDs like Jagdtiger because your prem ammo has the highest penetration drop in the game. Conq, T-10, WZ-111 1-4 all have obvious weakspots for you to shoot at, but if they hide weak their hull armor, you wouldn't even bother trying to fight them because it is just a bad engagement for you.

Also, E50's armor profile is almost just as good against HEAT, but it is much more agile and with that gun handling you can almost snapshot to limit your exposure time.

the turret is shit against gold, I can't deny that, but there's a lot of tanks that get their turrets buttered with gold

Yeah the gun will (severely) let you down at range, but ideally* the E75 should be up at the front hitting people in the face for 490 and abusing it's armor/HP, which it really excels at. Plus at that range your APCR round is pretty damn good even at tier 10.

I just really like the E75, it's reliable and does it's job well, which is why it earned my vote.

 

* even though it should be used up close, sometimes you can't choose, and you have to take those long range shots. my wording seemed a bit passive-aggressive, but that wasnt my intention

 

 

 

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WZ-120: 20
WZ-111 1-4: 21
Skoda T 50: 22 
Foch: 17
AMX 50 120 14
Lorraine 40t: 12 Shits garbage. Shitty autoloader, shitty armour, shitty mobility compared to most mediums.
AMX 30: 20
Waffen IV: 20
Jagdtiger: 20
VK 45.02 B: 22
E 75: 19
E 50: 23 
Leopard PT A: 18 
Type 61: 20
Centurion 7/1: 18
Tortoise: 17
Conqueror: 20
Conway: 20
T54E1: 21
T30: 21 
M46 Patton: 25
M103: 17
Object 704: 17
SU-122-54: 20
T-54: 22 Shits broken. 330 HEAT pen generates much wetness - both from the opponents eyes and the ladies pants. Great mobility, but it's easily fucked over by other tanks slinging gold at it. 
Obj 430 II: 21

T-10: 23

ST-I: 20

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WZ-120: 20
WZ-111 1-4: 21
Skoda T 50: 22 
Foch: 17
AMX 50 120 14
Lorraine 40t: 12
AMX 30P: 20

Waffen IV: 20
Jagdtiger: 20
VK 45.02 B: 22
E 75: 19
E 50: 23 
Leopard PT A: 18
Type 61: 17 really dull, nothing over the AMX 30 really, also shit for wn8 :doge: 
Centurion 7/1: 18
Tortoise: 17 
Conqueror: 21 (M48 gun handling with turret armour in exchange for mobility? abso fucking lutely! could be a tier 10 and no one would even complain about it)
Conway: 20
T54E1: 21
T30: 21
M46 Patton: 25
M103: 17

Object 704: 17
SU-122-54: 20
T-54: 22 (it says 21 on KenyanWarlords BUT he forgot to give it a +1 so I'm fixing it)
Obj 430 II: 21

T-10: 23

ST-I: 20

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On mobile so I can't change the colours from the previous post. for reference my choices were t54 best and cent 7/1 worst. I've taken a slightly different look at the negative. Instead of worst overall ive picked what I think is the worst tank when compared with its imidiate peers. I pathalogically hate tds (and fuck the Conway for that matter) and so if I had my way I'd vote them all down :P so this alternative way removes a bit of bias.

 

WZ-120: 20
WZ-111 1-4: 21
Skoda T 50: 22 
Foch: 17
AMX 50 120 14
Lorraine 40t: 12
AMX 30: 20
Waffen IV: 20
Jagdtiger: 20
VK 45.02 B: 22
E 75: 19
E 50: 23 
Leopard PT A: 18 
Type 61: 17
Centurion 7/1: 15 - first things first I like this tank. It was my first t9 how could I not. However having now played all the t9 Meds (on multiple accounts and test servers) it is a pale shadow of its former self. The gun is frustrating, Hesh is great sometimes but I'd rather take a 70 pen cut and get a heat round. Shots fly all over the place when they really shouldn't, the Dpm is fucking crap and the alpha really isn't that scary. The tank is fat and slow with no armour and With the hd model it's only redeeming factor (the gunmanlet over ridges) has been well and truly destroyed. On the plus side it looks cool as all hell but when compared to its counter parts it is just so so much worse. I even prefer the type 61 and the wz over the cent.... But I'll continue to play it anyway just because of looks.
Tortoise: 17
Conqueror: 21
Conway: 20
T54E1: 21
T30: 21
M46 Patton: 25
M103: 17
Object 704: 17
SU-122-54: 20
T-54: 23 - flexibility check, gun handling check, amour check, 330 heat pen check, acceptable gun depression check. Crazy fun tank? Check. Tbh the only med that comes close to the t54 in my eyes is the amx 30. T54 is just so comfortable, it's like being wrapped up in a duvet on a really cold evening.
Obj 430 II: 21

T-10: 23

ST-I: 20

Edited by rabidmonkey679
T54 was 23 not 22 and other numbers were wrong, now right

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Just now, kariverson said:

Have you played it? It goes faster than most lights...

if I remember right, it had really shitty ground resistances which is what I meant by that. the traverse has always felt really sluggish to me as well, even though it isn't THAT bad, but could be due to the ground resistances. Granted, I also could just be an absolute fucking idiot but from my limited experience playing it, the mobility simply didn't feel right.

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WZ-120: 20
WZ-111 1-4: 21+1 :22 This thing is so strong it's not even fun. Tier 10 at tier 9, if it had more hp and +20mm frontal i'd take it over the 113 at tier 10.
Skoda T 50: 22 
Foch: 17 -3: 14 No armor, no turret, crap everywhere. Only good thing is its gun but it doesn't matter on half of these maps anyway.
AMX 50 120 14
Lorraine 40t: 12
AMX 30: 20
Waffen IV: 20
Jagdtiger: 20
VK 45.02 B: 22
E 75: 19
E 50: 23 

Leo PTA: 18
Type 61: 17
Centurion 7/1: 15

Tortoise: 17
Conqueror: 21
Conway: 20
T54E1: 21

T30: 21
M46 Patton: 25
M103: 17
Object 704: 17
SU-122-54: 20
T-54: 23
Obj 430 II: 21

T-10: 23

ST-I: 20

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WZ-120: 20
WZ-111 1-4: 22
Skoda T 50: 22 
Foch: 14
AMX 50 120 14
Lorraine 40t: 12
AMX 30: 20
Waffen IV: 20
Jagdtiger: 20
VK 45.02 B: 22
E 75: 19 - 3 = 16 this tank can't win shit, and the gun is pretty trashy as well. It's too big, not fast enough, not punchy enough to really shine anywhere.
E 50: 23

Leo PTA: 18
Type 61: 17
Centurion 7/1: 15

Tortoise: 17
Conqueror: 21
Conway: 20
T54E1: 21

T30: 21
M46 Patton: 25
M103: 17
Object 704: 17
SU-122-54: 20
T-54: 23
Obj 430 II: 21

T-10: 23 + 1 = 24 contrary to gandy's belief having a gun without ass soft stats and armor that bounces shit is a better package than have a little extra alpha.

ST-I: 20

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