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The third iteration of the elimination thread will be judging the backbone tier - 8! The rules are the same as before; increase the best tank on the list by 1 and decrease the worst tank on the list by 3. Each user is allowed to do this a maximum of once per day. When a tank hits 0, it is eliminated. You must explain your choices, even if very briefly. Highlight your increase with GREEN and your decrease with RED if possible. If you cannot use colors, use BOLD for your upvotes and ITALICS for your downvotes. I'll keep track of what tanks are remaining and in what order they were eliminated. Remember to make sure you are copying the latest list before posting.

This time we will be a little more strict in both what tanks are listed and how we will vote for them. We will not be including light tanks nor premium tanks - these will be used in a future elimination thread. Additionally, we will be voting on tanks purely out of a combination of power and fun. If you upvote or downvote a tank for a reason other than how powerful/weak it is or how fun/unfun it is to play, your vote may be vetoed at my discretion. This includes downvoting tanks because they are too powerful, downvoting tanks because you don't like fighting them, or up/downvoting tanks out of spite.

1 TANK REMAINING

T-34-2         ELIMINATED
110            ELIMINATED
TVP VTU        ELIMINATED
AMX AC 48      ELIMINATED
AMX 50 100     ELIMINATED
Rhm. B WT      ELIMINATED
Jagdpanther II ELIMINATED
Ferdinand      ELIMINATED
VK 45.02 A     ELIMINATED
Tiger II       ELIMINATED
Panther II     ELIMINATED
Indienpanzer   ELIMINATED
STA-1          ELIMINATED
O-Ho           ELIMINATED
Centurion I    ELIMINATED
AT-15          ELIMINATED
Caernarvon     ELIMINATED
Charioteer     ELIMINATED
T69            ELIMINATED
T28 Prot       ELIMINATED
T28            ELIMINATED
Pershing       ELIMINATED
T32            ELIMINATED
ISU-152        ELIMINATED
SU-101         ELIMINATED
Object 416     ELIMINATED
T-44           ELIMINATED
IS-3           VICTOR
KV-4           ELIMINATED

Elimination Order:

Spoiler
  1. T28
  2. TVP VTU
  3. T28 Prot
  4. AMX AC 48
  5. Centurion I
  6. Caernarvon
  7. Panther II
  8. VK 45.02A
  9. AT-15
  10. KV-4
  11. SU-101
  12. T-34-2
  13. O-Ho
  14. Ferdinand
  15. Charioteer
  16. Indienpanzer
  17. Tiger II
  18. ISU-152
  19. STA-1
  20. T-44
  21. T69
  22. Rhm. B WT
  23. Jagdpanther II
  24. 110
  25. AMX 50 100
  26. Object 416
  27. T32
  28. Pershing

 

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T-34-2 - 20
110 - 20
TVP VTU - 20
AMX AC 48 - 20
AMX 50 100 - 20
Rhm. B WT - 20
Jagdpanther II - 21 medium mobility, hammer time gun
Ferdinand - 20
VK 45.02 A - 20
Tiger II - 20
Panther II - 20
Indienpanzer - 20
STA-1 - 20
O-Ho - 20
Centurion I - 20
AT-15 - 20
Caernarvon - 20
Charioteer - 20
T69 - 20
T28 Prot - 20
T82 - 17 too slow no turret just not good
Pershing - 20
T32 - 20
ISU-152 - 20
SU-101 - 20
Object 416 - 20
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 20
KV-4 - 20

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T-34-2 - 20
110 - 20
TVP VTU - 20
AMX AC 48 - 20
AMX 50 100 - 20
Rhm. B WT - 20
Jagdpanther II - 22 - Go fast like a medium and then hit someone for 500 - me likey.
Ferdinand - 20
VK 45.02 A - 20
Tiger II - 20
Panther II - 17 - There are worse tanks, but I played this one recently. Slow with no armor, while it's strength should be the gun. Well, 203 base pen is not spectacular, and APRC is the same as T-44, and way worse than the Pershing. It may be decent for bad players, but the skill ceiling for this POS is the lowest I've ever seen.
Indienpanzer - 20
STA-1 - 20
O-Ho - 20
Centurion I - 20
AT-15 - 20
Caernarvon - 20
Charioteer - 20
T69 - 20
T28 Prot - 20
T28 - 17
Pershing - 20
T32 - 20
ISU-152 - 20
SU-101 - 20
Object 416 - 20
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 20

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T-34-2 - 20
110 - 20
TVP VTU - 17 Not actually THAT bad, but I just finished the grind and it wasn't much fun.
AMX AC 48 - 20
AMX 50 100 - 20
Rhm. B WT - 20
Jagdpanther II - 22
Ferdinand - 20
VK 45.02 A - 20
Tiger II - 20
Panther II - 17
Indienpanzer - 20
STA-1 - 20
O-Ho - 20
Centurion I - 20
AT-15 - 20
Caernarvon - 20
Charioteer - 20
T69 - 20
T28 Prot - 20
T28 - 17
Pershing - 20
T32 - 21 Very comfy. It could definitely use a bit more accuracy, but it's pleasant to drive and has a sweet turret. 
ISU-152 - 20
SU-101 - 20
Object 416 - 20
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 20

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why do I sometimes have colour options and other times not???

also, if the IS-3 doesn't win this I will be outstanded

T-34-2 - 20
110 - 20
TVP VTU - 17
AMX AC 48 - 20
AMX 50 100 - 20
Rhm. B WT - 20
Jagdpanther II - 22
Ferdinand - 20
VK 45.02 A - 20
Tiger II - 20
Panther II - 17
Indienpanzer - 20
STA-1 - 20
O-Ho - 20
Centurion I - 20
AT-15 - 20
Caernarvon - 20
Charioteer - 20
T69 - 20
T28 Prot - 20
T28 - 17-3 = 14 - slow, meh gun, irrelevant armour. there are no plus sides to it. 
Pershing - 20
T32 - 21 
ISU-152 - 20
SU-101 - 20
Object 416 - 20
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 20+1 = 21 - Literally the best tier 8 tank in the game, bar none. 

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Just now, Assassin7 said:

why do I sometimes have colour options and other times not???

I don't know if it's the same for everyone, but I don't get the colour format options below ~1400 pixels browser width.

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* For tanks I've driven.

IS-3 is gonna win this anyway, so I'll skip it for the sake of furthering more interesting viewpoints.

T-34-2 - 20
110 - 20
TVP VTU - 17
AMX AC 48 - 20
*AMX 50 100 - 20
*Rhm. B WT - 20
Jagdpanther II - 22
*Ferdinand - 20
*VK 45.02 A - 20
Tiger II - 21 (Far from what most players consider a good, or even competitive T8 heavy. I found it meshed rather well with my playstyle and ended up enjoying it more than my IS-3, which I sold while this was kept. Gun is very good, and armor is very workable instead of relying on RNG for the bounces.)
*Indienpanzer - 20
STA-1 - 20
O-Ho - 20
*Centurion I - 20
*AT-15 - 20
*Caernarvon - 20
*Charioteer - 20
T69 - 20
T28 Prot - 20
*T28 - 11 (DPM-reliant, slow turret-less TD's are cancer. AT-15 is perhaps the only excemption to this, but the T28 certainly shows why it's not a good combo.)
Pershing - 20
T32 - 21
*ISU-152 - 20
SU-101 - 20
*Object 416 - 20
T-44 - 20
*IS-3 - 21

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2 minutes ago, RichardNixon said:

I don't know if it's the same for everyone, but I don't get the colour format options below ~1400 pixels browser width.

okay, well on my 1366x768 screen, I zoomed out in the browser and it gave me colour options, and all the others. okay then. 

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T-34-2 - 20
110 - 20
TVP VTU - 17
AMX AC 48 - 20
AMX 50 100 - 20
Rhm. B WT - 20
Jagdpanther II - 22
Ferdinand - 20
VK 45.02 A - 20
Tiger II - 21
Panther II - 17
Indienpanzer - 20
STA-1 - 20
O-Ho - 20
Centurion I - 20
AT-15 - 20
Caernarvon - 20
Charioteer - 20
T69 - 21 how to not be a pleb and have fun.
T28 Prot - 20
T28 - 8 The worse of the 2 T28s, as if the other T28 isn't bad enough
Pershing - 20
T32 - 21
ISU-152 - 20
SU-101 - 20
Object 416 - 20
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 21

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T-34-2 - 20
110 - 20
TVP VTU - 17
AMX AC 48 - 20
AMX 50 100 - 20
Rhm. B WT - 20
Jagdpanther II - 22
Ferdinand - 20
VK 45.02 A - 20
Tiger II - 21
Panther II - 17
Indienpanzer - 20
STA-1 - 20
O-Ho - 20
Centurion I - 20
AT-15 - 20
Caernarvon - 20
Charioteer - 20
T69 - 21 how to not be a pleb and have fun.
T28 Prot - 19 HD model = lolpen now
T28 - 8 The worse of the 2 T28s, as if the other T28 isn't bad enough
Pershing - 20
T32 - 21
ISU-152 - 20
SU-101 - 20
Object 416 - 20
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 22 RNG armour. Enough said.

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T-34-2 - 20
110 - 20
TVP VTU - 17
AMX AC 48 - 20
AMX 50 100 - 20
Rhm. B WT - 20
Jagdpanther II - 23 I always say this is best T8 medium tank... so...
Ferdinand - 20
VK 45.02 A - 20
Tiger II - 21
Panther II - 17
Indienpanzer - 20
STA-1 - 20
O-Ho - 20
Centurion I - 20
AT-15 - 20
Caernarvon - 20
Charioteer - 20
T69 - 21
T28 Prot - 17 FTFY Fulcruos
T28 - 5 Get effed you slow piece of shit.
Pershing - 20
T32 - 21
ISU-152 - 20
SU-101 - 20
Object 416 - 20
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 22

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T-34-2 - 20
110 - 20
TVP VTU - 17
AMX AC 48 - 20
AMX 50 100 - 20
Rhm. B WT - 20
Jagdpanther II - 24 - A fantastic TD that is so flexible, you surprise mediums by out pacing them to control areas to do medium stuff. Super duper DPM, penetration and alpha means you will (and can) shred tanks. Even if the HD rework gimped it's armour slightly, it's still the most fun T8 to play that requires skill and positioning to maximise it's effect.
Ferdinand - 20
VK 45.02 A - 20
Tiger II - 21
Panther II - 17
Indienpanzer - 20
STA-1 - 20
O-Ho - 20
Centurion I - 17 - I really wanted to like this tank. But, post HD remodel, literally has nothing going for it. Sluggish with a stupid top speed, surprisingly derpy gun handling and low DPM coupled with trash turret and hull, means even having good gun depression with a decent AP round can't stop it being the worst tier 8 medium.
AT-15 - 20
Caernarvon - 20
Charioteer - 20
T69 - 21
T28 Prot - 20
T28 - 5
Pershing - 20
T32 - 21 
ISU-152 - 20
SU-101 - 20
Object 416 - 20
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 22

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T-34-2 - 20
110 - 20
TVP VTU - 14 I'll help flush this turd ASAP. Cancerously bad gun handling ruins what would otherwise be a decent med. All in all, I'd rather drive anything else on this list.
AMX AC 48 - 20
AMX 50 100 - 20
Rhm. B WT - 20
Jagdpanther II - 23
Ferdinand - 20
VK 45.02 A - 20
Tiger II - 21
Panther II - 17
Indienpanzer - 20
STA-1 - 20
O-Ho - 20
Centurion I - 20
AT-15 - 20
Caernarvon - 20
Charioteer - 20
T69 - 21
T28 Prot - 17
T28 - 5
Pershing - 20
T32 - 21
ISU-152 - 20
SU-101 - 20
Object 416 - 20
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 23 The king of tier 8 and Russian bias, rolled up into one tank.

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T-34-2 - 20
110 - 20
TVP VTU - 14
AMX AC 48 - 20
AMX 50 100 - 21
Rhm. B WT - 20
Jagdpanther II - 23
Ferdinand - 20
VK 45.02 A - 20
Tiger II - 21
Panther II - 17
Indienpanzer - 20
STA-1 - 20
O-Ho - 20
Centurion I - 20
AT-15 - 20
Caernarvon - 20
Charioteer - 20
T69 - 21
T28 Prototype - 14 
T28 - 5
Pershing - 20
T32 - 21
ISU-152 - 20
SU-101 - 20
Object 416 - 20
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 23

AMX 50 100: 1800 clip potential on a mobile chassis. :QBFlip:

T28 prototype: You give armor for a turret which is hilariously weak now, it's slow, can't angle and the T28 has 1500 hp now compared to this thing's 1100 or so hp.

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T-34-2 - 20
110 - 20
TVP VTU - 14
AMX AC 48 - 20
AMX 50 100 - 20
Rhm. B WT - 20
Jagdpanther II - 23
Ferdinand - 20
VK 45.02 A - 20
Tiger II - 21
Panther II - 17
Indienpanzer - 20
STA-1 - 20
O-Ho - 20
Centurion I - 20
AT-15 - 20
Caernarvon - 17 One of the few tanks I've rage free xp'd through, this tank is garbage and badly needs a buff to anything to make it relevant...
Charioteer - 20
T69 - 21
T28 Prot - 17
T28 - 5
Pershing - 20
T32 - 21
ISU-152 - 20
SU-101 - 20
Object 416 - 20
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 24 This tank shaped the fucking meta at tier 8. There is no downside to this tank. The side armor bounces tier 10 guns if you don't aim :facepalm: 

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T-34-2 - 20
110 - 20
TVP VTU - 14
AMX AC 48 - 20
AMX 50 100 -21

Rhm. B WT - 20
Jagdpanther II - 23
Ferdinand - 20
VK 45.02 A - 20
Tiger II - 21
Panther II - 17
Indienpanzer - 20
STA-1 - 20
O-Ho - 20
Centurion I - 20
AT-15 - 20
Caernarvon - 20
Charioteer - 17
T69 - 21
T28 Prototype - 14

T28 - 5 - 3 = 2 Just to slow and inflexible for ANYTHING
Pershing - 20 + 1 = 21 Perfect blend for me, love Depression/Turret armor + Gun handling
T32 - 21
ISU-152 - 20
SU-101 - 20
Object 416 - 20
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 24 

PS: It just wont BOLD or Italics or color -.- sry

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T-34-2 - 20
110 - 20
TVP VTU - 14
AMX AC 48 - 20
AMX 50 100 -21

Rhm. B WT - 20
Jagdpanther II - 23
Ferdinand - 20
VK 45.02 A - 20
Tiger II - 21
Panther II - 17
Indienpanzer - 20
STA-1 - 20
O-Ho - 20
Centurion I - 20
AT-15 - 20
Caernarvon - 20
Charioteer - 17
T69 - 21
T28 Prototype - 14

T28 - 2 -3 = -1 Out with this pos
Pershing - 21
T32 - 21
ISU-152 - 20
SU-101 - 20
Object 416 - 20
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 25 already the winner :D

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T-34-2 - 20
110 - 20
TVP VTU - 14
AMX AC 48 - 20
AMX 50 100 - 21
Rhm. B WT - 20
Jagdpanther II - 23
Ferdinand - 20
VK 45.02 A - 20
Tiger II - 21
Panther II - 17
Indienpanzer - 20
STA-1 - 20
O-Ho - 20
Centurion I - 20
AT-15 - 20
Caernarvon - 20
Charioteer - 20
T69 - 21
T28 Prototype - 14 
T28 - 2. Slow, with obvious weak spots.
Pershing - 20
T32 - 21
ISU-152 - 20
SU-101 - 20
Object 416 - 21. 330 pen, great camo and dpm, what's not to like? Best TD for its tier.
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 23

Italics negative, bold positive.

also, what's with the love for the JP2? I can't get it to work - maybe it's s LOT better once you get the top gun, but I much prefer the bordig to this.

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This is really hard on a phone, and the math is already screwed up. I think the T28 is already negative?

TVP VTU: 14 - 3 = 11

The gun depression with the top turret is so bad on this chassis that many people run the stock turret with the 88mm. I never even unlocked the 105mm when I sped through the grind because I heard the combination of long aim time with no gun depression was awful.  

IS-3: 25 + 1 = 26

This tank was declared the winner before the thread started. The gun is more accurate than an M46. WTF!?

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Yeah, Zippy ignored Fredd's votes and Hellvn quoted an old list. Current list:

T-34-2 - 20
110 - 20
TVP VTU - 11
AMX AC 48 - 20
AMX 50 100 - 21
Rhm. B WT - 20
Jagdpanther II - 24
Ferdinand - 20
VK 45.02 A - 20
Tiger II - 21
Panther II - 17
Indienpanzer - 20
STA-1 - 20
O-Ho - 20
Centurion I - 17
AT-15 - 20
Caernarvon - 20
Charioteer - 20
T69 - 21
T28 Prototype - 14
Pershing - 21
T32 - 21
ISU-152 - 20
SU-101 - 20
Object 416 - 21
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 26

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22 minutes ago, monjardin said:

IS-3: 25 + 1 = 26

This tank was declared the winner before the thread started. The gun is more accurate than an M46. WTF!?

It's not, the M46 has 0.39 final accuracy versus the IS-3's 0.40 along with much better gun handling.

Still, the winner is obvious. I think it would be more of a competition to see which tank gets second place, considering first is already a foregone conclusion. Personally I don't much see the appeal of tier 8 anyway considering most tanks within it are rather uncomfortable to play and they tend to have pretty low damage output for their HP, SPMM or bust,

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T-34-2 - 20
110 - 20
TVP VTU - 11-3 = 8, the T stands for Turd and it's in there twice for a reason
AMX AC 48 - 20
AMX 50 100 - 21
Rhm. B WT - 20
Jagdpanther II - 24
Ferdinand - 20
VK 45.02 A - 20
Tiger II - 21
Panther II - 17
Indienpanzer - 20
STA-1 - 20
O-Ho - 20
Centurion I - 17
AT-15 - 20
Caernarvon - 20
Charioteer - 20
T69 - 21
T28 Prototype - 14
Pershing - 21
T32 - 21
ISU-152 - 20
SU-101 - 20
Object 416 - 21
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 26+1 = 27, simply the best

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