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110 - 15
AMX 50 100 - 23
Rhm.B WT - 23
Jagdpanther II -  24
Indienpanzer - 8
Ferdinand - 8- 3 = 5 Big, fat, camoless and easy to pen.
Tiger II - 20
STA-1 - 20
Charioteer – 12 
T69 - 16
Pershing - 36
T32 - 32 + 1 = 33 Meh gun but with this turret armor it can troll X tier tanks and spot over ridges without losing a single HP.
ISU-152 - 19
Obj 416 - 30
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 52

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110 - 15
AMX 50 100 - 23
Rhm.B WT - 23
Jagdpanther II -  24
Indienpanzer - 8
Ferdinand  5 
Tiger II - 20-3 = 17 Have you ever seen a Tiger 2 and think "Oh man, he's going to murder me?" Me neither. An XP Pinata cuddled by Wehraboos everywhere.
STA-1 - 20
Charioteer – 12 
T69 - 16
Pershing - 36+1 = 37 Training wheels for the Patton.
T32 -  33 
ISU-152 - 19
Obj 416 - 30
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 52

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Cant do colors atm, on mobile. Sorries.

110 - 15
AMX 50 100 - 23
Rhm.B WT - 23
Jagdpanther II -  24
Indienpanzer - 8
Ferdinand - 5 - 3 = 2. Die already.
Tiger II - 17
STA-1 - 20
Charioteer – 12 
T69 - 16 + 1 = 17 Didnt want to vote for the 416 yet again. I really like the T69 and have never understood the hate for it. Its got great gun depression, a somewhat trolly turret/hull (at least more so than the instapen 50-100), acceptable mobility, and a gun thats plenty workable and reloads faster than the 50-100. 
Pershing - 37
T32 - 33
ISU-152 - 19
Obj 416 - 30
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 52

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110 - 15
AMX 50 100 - 23
Rhm.B WT - 23
Jagdpanther II -  24
Indienpanzer - 9 Imo this is a really solid tank, and quite underrated, though I guess I'm biased since I like it so much. It's mobile enough, has good pen and one of the highest dpms of all t8 mediums, and the armor (both hull and turret) is troll as fuck. The thing that lets it down is the gun control, but that can be mitigated - and your reload is under six seconds, anyways. 
Ferdinand - 2
Tiger II - 17
STA-1 - 20
Charioteer – 12 
T69 - 17
Pershing - 37
T32 - 33
ISU-152 - 16 A one-trick pony. Of course, the BL-10 is the BL-10, but you've still got a slow, unarmored, turretless TD with bad traverse. 
Obj 416 - 30
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 52

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110 - 15
AMX 50 100 - 23
Rhm.B WT - 23
Jagdpanther II -  24
Indienpanzer - 9 
Ferdinand - 2
Tiger II - 17
STA-1 - 20
Charioteer – 12 
T69 - 17
Pershing - 38 Good tonk once you get the hang of the high-tier US med play style.
T32 - 33
ISU-152 - 13 Horrid hull traverse. Glaciers move faster than this thing turns. 
Obj 416 - 30
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 52

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110 - 15
AMX 50 100 - 23
Rhm.B WT - 23
Jagdpanther II -  24
Indienpanzer - 9 
Ferdinand - 2
Tiger II - 17 - 3 = 14. overrated piece of shit
STA-1 - 20
Charioteer – 12 
T69 - 17
Pershing - 38
T32 - 33
ISU-152 - 13 + 1 = 14. BL-10 + cloaking device :doge: 
Obj 416 - 30
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 52

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110 - 15
AMX 50 100 - 23
Rhm.B WT - 23
Jagdpanther II -  24
Indienpanzer - 9 
Ferdinand - 2
Tiger II - 14
STA-1 - 20
Charioteer – 12 - 3 = this tank stays and ferdinand or ISU out, srsly, fucking blues, l2p (and even if you cant play it, how in the world is the ferdinand, with 1500 hp and <10 sec rld with 490 alpha dmg worse as shitters like Charioteer or STA-1?
T69 - 17
Pershing - 38
T32 - 33
ISU-152 - 14 + 1 = 15, people negrepping this havent played this tank (in a while), use the wrong crewskills (its as fast as an IS3, since when is IS3 slow????) or confuse playing against <> playing with, ISU is simply the best tier 8 TD, its plain better as RHM and a Jp-2 simply doesnt hit hard enough nor has it the camo to pull ridiculous yolo games (hint: 6k dmg is NOTHING for an ISU, even 50% winratio players can get 7-8-9k dmg with an ISU, seems balanced, right???)
Obj 416 - 30
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 52

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2 hours ago, GehakteMolen said:

110 - 15
AMX 50 100 - 23
Rhm.B WT - 23
Jagdpanther II -  24
Indienpanzer - 9 
Ferdinand - 2
Tiger II - 14
STA-1 - 20
Charioteer – 12 - 3 = this tank stays and ferdinand or ISU out, srsly, fucking blues, l2p (and even if you cant play it, how in the world is the ferdinand, with 1500 hp and <10 sec rld with 490 alpha dmg worse as shitters like Charioteer or STA-1?
T69 - 17
Pershing - 38
T32 - 33
ISU-152 - 14 + 1 = 15, people negrepping this havent played this tank (in a while), use the wrong crewskills (its as fast as an IS3, since when is IS3 slow????) or confuse playing against <> playing with, ISU is simply the best tier 8 TD, its plain better as RHM and a Jp-2 simply doesnt hit hard enough nor has it the camo to pull ridiculous yolo games (hint: 6k dmg is NOTHING for an ISU, even 50% winratio players can get 7-8-9k dmg with an ISU, seems balanced, right???)
Obj 416 - 30
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 52

STA at least is comfy and fast. I'd rather question Indien here.

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110 - 15
AMX 50 100 - 23+1=24 good clip, good mobility. 
Rhm.B WT - 23
Jagdpanther II -  24
Indienpanzer - 9 
Ferdinand - 2-3=-1 let's end this piece of crap
Tiger II - 14
STA-1 - 20
Charioteer – 9
T69 - 17
Pershing - 38
T32 - 33
ISU-152 - 15
Obj 416 - 30
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 52

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110 - 15
AMX 50 100 - 24 
Rhm.B WT - 23
Jagdpanther II -  24
Indienpanzer - 9 
Tiger II - 14
STA-1 - 17
Charioteer – 9
T69 - 18
Pershing - 38
T32 - 33
ISU-152 - 15
Obj 416 - 30
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 52

STA-1:Mediocre paper med with no staying power. What is the point to this thing again?

T69:  heatfapper.gif

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110 - 15
AMX 50 100 - 24 
Rhm.B WT - 23
Jagdpanther II -  24
Indienpanzer - 9 
Tiger II - 14
STA-1 - 17 - 3 = 14
Charioteer – 9
T69 - 18
Pershing - 38 + 1 = 39
T32 - 33
ISU-152 - 15
Obj 416 - 30
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 52

Pershing: Decided to play 1 match in the Pershing because why the hell not.

 


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This tank has never failed to perform on me.

STA-1: Why play inferior Pershing? Once again, you can negate its advantage by 2-2'ing your way out of the other meds.

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110 - 15
AMX 50 100 - 24 
Rhm.B WT - 23
Jagdpanther II -  24
Indienpanzer - 9 
Tiger II - 14
STA-1 - 17 - 3 = 14
Charioteer – 9
T69 - 18
Pershing - 38 + 1 = 39
T32 - 33 + 1 = 34 Flexibility you say? Decent mobility, okay hull, gun has bad pen but pretty nice handling, great view range, awesome gun dep and god like turret (even from the side)
ISU-152 - 15 - 3  = 12 Propably one of the most unbalanced tanks in the game. The gun is absolutely broken for its tier, just ridiculous combo of pen, reload, alpha. Bit everything else (appart from camo) on this tank is shit. Turns like a boat, low-ish HP, bad bad acceleration awful armor, bad view range.... Gun alone cant make shit platform good.
Obj 416 - 30
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 52

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11 hours ago, GehakteMolen said:

110 - 15
AMX 50 100 - 23
Rhm.B WT - 23
Jagdpanther II -  24
Indienpanzer - 9 
Ferdinand - 2
Tiger II - 14
STA-1 - 20
Charioteer – 12 - 3 = this tank stays and ferdinand or ISU out, srsly, fucking blues, l2p (and even if you cant play it, how in the world is the ferdinand, with 1500 hp and <10 sec rld with 490 alpha dmg worse as shitters like Charioteer or STA-1?
T69 - 17
Pershing - 38
T32 - 33
ISU-152 - 14 + 1 = 15, people negrepping this havent played this tank (in a while), use the wrong crewskills (its as fast as an IS3, since when is IS3 slow????) or confuse playing against <> playing with, ISU is simply the best tier 8 TD, its plain better as RHM and a Jp-2 simply doesnt hit hard enough nor has it the camo to pull ridiculous yolo games (hint: 6k dmg is NOTHING for an ISU, even 50% winratio players can get 7-8-9k dmg with an ISU, seems balanced, right???)
Obj 416 - 30
T-44 - 20
IS-3 - 52

ISU also has gun depression, Nazi non-Ferdi TDs doesn't.

It has no armor on paper, but it trolls enemies with mantlet...and sometimes side armor.

PPL downvoting it and Indienpanzer still on the list.

I do not plan on voting the tier 8s, despite playing them all. Such shitstorm.

@mort_CZ: check Vbaddict and tanks.gg before posting next time, pls. I do not even need to reply to your posts, good players will see what is wrong with them.

ISU just prints Halonen's Medals.

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110 - 16, now if people who actually played this played it like a russian medium instead of a russian heavy and you'd suddenly end up with one of the best T8 meds in the tier. M46 KR/Pershing is still a favourite among many others but I for one prefer the T-54 Mod 1, and this tank is literally that tank with a punchier gun and a pikenose WHATS NOT TO LOVE
AMX 50 100 - 24 
Rhm.B WT - 23
Jagdpanther II -  24
Indienpanzer - 9 
Tiger II - 14
STA-1 - 14
Charioteer – 9
T69 - 18
Pershing - 38 + 1 = 39
T32 - 34
ISU-152 - 12
Obj 416 - 30
T-44 - 17 just alerting everyone that the ammorack on tracks hasn't even been noticed yet
IS-3 - 52

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110 -16
AMX 50 100 - 24
Rhm.B WT - 23
Jagdpanther II -  24
Indien Panzer - 9-3 = 6, fixed the spelling and trying to fix the score
Tiger II - 14
STA-1 - 14
Charioteer – 9
T69 - 18
Pershing - 39
T32 - 34
ISU-152 - 12
Obj 416 - 30
T-44 - 17

IS-3 - 52+1 = 53, a better 110 :doge: 

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@Felicius Whats wrong with my statement? Its just my opinion and I know that there are still some worse tanks on the list.

But if I wrote something wrong, please correct me. 

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110 -16
AMX 50 100 - 24
Rhm.B WT - 23
Jagdpanther II -  24
Indien Panzer - 3 As per yesterday, the worst tank on this list that I've played. This could have gone to the Charioteer but I haven't played it, ditto the STA and ditto ditto the Tiger II which is a massively overrated turd of a heavy.
Tiger II - 14
STA-1 - 14
Charioteer – 9
T69 - 18
Pershing - 39
T32 - 34
ISU-152 - 12
Obj 416 - 30
T-44 - 17

IS-3 - 54 Without a doubt the absolute best tank in game. #thereisnosuchthingasrussianbias

 

Looking forward to Gehakte getting eternally triggered tomorrow when his waifu gets voted out for being shit.

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110 -16
AMX 50 100 - 24 
Rhm.B WT - 23
Jagdpanther II -  24
Indien Panzer - 3 
Tiger II - 14
STA-1 - 14
Charioteer – 9 - 3 = 6 -5 gun depression with paper armor sound like "no, sir"
T69 - 18
Pershing - 39
T32 - 34
ISU-152 - 12 + 1 = 13 Alpha, gun caliber, trolling mantlet.
Obj 416 - 30
T-44 - 17

IS-3 - 54

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110 -16
AMX 50 100 - 24 + 1 = 25. Clip size and mobility :doge: 
Rhm.B WT - 23
Jagdpanther II -  24
Indien Panzer - 3
Tiger II - 14 - 3 = 11. JUST DIE FAGGOT, U CURSED ME WHEN I PLAYED YOU SO TIME TO REVENGE
STA-1 - 14
Charioteer – 6
T69 - 18
Pershing - 39
T32 - 34
ISU-152 - 13
Obj 416 - 30
T-44 - 17

IS-3 - 54

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110 -16
AMX 50 100 - 25
Rhm.B WT - 23
Jagdpanther II -  24
Indien Panzer - 3
Tiger II - 11
STA-1 - 14
Charioteer – 3 Worst remaining tank on that list. Liittle alpha damage for a TD and very bad gun handling so you can't really do anything useful while it reloads. Other than die thanks to its armor an HP.
T69 - 18
Pershing - 40 best remaining med
T32 - 34
ISU-152 - 13
Obj 416 - 30
T-44 - 17

IS-3 - 54

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3 hours ago, mort_CZ said:

@Felicius Whats wrong with my statement? Its just my opinion and I know that there are still some worse tanks on the list.

But if I wrote something wrong, please correct me. 

"bad acceleration awful armor, bad view range..." Let me correct you. Of all tds in tier only JP 2 is more mobile. 

It has a very good acceleration. Playing it along with Rhoomba for hundreds of battles, Rhoomba is MUCH slower, ISU has 40% more hp/t. It is based on IS, the most mobile heavy in tier (that has any armor, I do not count paper heavies). Yes, it lacks traverse, but all turretless tds are done if circled anyway. 

Point is that it has enough mobility for early deployment....where Rhoomba often arrives 20-30  seconds later...and to flex back to base, and turn the binos on for base defence while your team wins the flank you have managed to land only 3 shots.

Also, 350 m is blind for you? It is only 10 m less Than JP2, which has so much worse camo, that it straight loses vision games against "10 m blinder ISU".

I get it that the "Zveroboy" is not for everyone, but just say so.

And not quoting its "deficiencies" as the reason for downvote, while there are other tanks on the list with worse stats in the same traits.

And ISU armor is just fine. "lowish HP" - is has more useful HP than Borsig if you just count the difference between HE and AP damage values. And ISU has troll armor, and ppl know it - they must aim you a bit, which is just enough for you to aim too...and you nom nom 300 dmg while blasting them for 750.

Also, huge mantlet and a bit offset gun give a lot of possibilities...wiggle it! Also, side armor is E 50 level or better. Bating shots there can help a lot, or help you when you can not hide completely.

If you have any objections against ISU, at least tell about the real ones - bad final acc, long aim time...it looks like you never played it.

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110 -16
AMX 50 100 - 25
Rhm.B WT - 20 Best damage farmer on a loss. I hate that type of tanks. All those 48% pubbies that have 1.6 dmg ratio and 44% win in this tank. Too slow to flex. HE bait . Crew dies. Module dmg. Burns from frontal hits. BAAAd gun depression. Too long to poke corners. From one of best tanks to one of meh at best by map changes...and it get a share of nerfs, vision being the latest. Unica still make it work with 15 cm+heat, then pubbies copy the tactic and shoot HE, or even worse, they load AP, and bounce those rounds that they do not miss. I would rather see UNICA/PUBBY in any heavy as top tier tank.
Jagdpanther II -  24
Indien Panzer - 3
Tiger II - 11
STA-1 - 14
Charioteer – 3 
T69 - 18
Pershing - 40
T32 - 34
ISU-152 - 13
Obj 416 - 33 best camo of all relevant tanks tanks in game, and 3rd best overall. E 25 is  so close it does not matter at all, and ELC is worse. Heat Round. DPM. Can sidescrape, not to increase armor, but to presend tiny target while it snapshots you with HEAT. If this thing would be a tier 9 med, it would have 2nd best soft stats, only Patton would come slightly ahead. Beats E 50/T54/430 v2 by a clear margin, and the others are way worse.

T-44 - 17
IS-3 - 54

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110 -16
AMX 50 100 - 25
Rhm.B WT - 20
Jagdpanther II -  24
Indien Panzer - 3
Tiger II - 9 Literally paper with a shit turret, shit hull. Its pretty bad when a lowe is a direct comparison.
STA-1 - 14
Charioteer – 3 
T69 - 18
Pershing - 40
T32 - 34
ISU-152 - 13
Obj 416 - 33 

T-44 - 17
IS-3 - 57 Completely outclasses all mediums, TDs and heavies in the tier by being better in every single damn way.

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110 -16

AMX 50 100 - 25

Rhm.B WT - 20

Jagdpanther II -  24

Indien Panzer - 3

Tiger II - 9 + 1 = 10. Big girl shall go out fighting.

STA-1 - 14

Charioteer – 3 - 3 = 0. Begone, unflexible, undergunned paper TD.

T69 - 18

Pershing - 40

T32 - 34

ISU-152 - 13

Obj 416 - 33

T-44 - 17

IS-3 - 57

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