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Go-to ships for ranked battles: Season 4

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I have had to face iChase in his Saipan in a 3 man division twice now, his frigging torp drops are so close ( especially if he can shield his planes behind a land mass to thwart your AA on his way in ).  He is uber efficient with his planes, I am waiting to finally get him on my team in normal pubs, so I can relax my pucker factor.

The Blyska, even with a 7-8 skill captain is serving me perfectly in the tier 6/7 portion.

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The Blyska is one of your best carry ships in that tier because of the torps, the speed and the XP from capping. The sims is pretty efficient at wrecking too although it lacks the insane firepower.

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Major advantage SIms has is the AA consumable. It wont help you shoot down planes much, but it really screws up torp and dive bombers accuracy if they come after you or any ship you are near.

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After spending an entire day of 14 games at rank 12, I decided to switch from the Nagato and focus on DDs. I've been switching between the Blyskawica and Mahan. I've have been gaining ranks ever since (now at rank 10)! Much easier to get top XP on the losing side with DDs.

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I realize this evidence is anecdotal, but I can say from my observations that it is fruitless to bring a Hatsuhara or a Mutsuki into the Tier6/7 portion of ranked battles.  They get erased with impunity by a Mahan or a Blyskawica on the other team.  The Kiev sometimes seems to work, but they usually get spotted far enough away that cruisers feed on them quickly.  From what I have seen, best bets to carry in a DD are the Sims, Mahan and the Blyskawica.  The IJN and Soviet DD's seem to be at a disadvantage.

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Been trying ranked for the past days, and so far, It's going well, although as mentionned the 15-12 ranks is indeed a purgatory.

Myoko seems the ship to go, although I might rebuy my nagato. Hatsu on the other hand is garbage compared to other dds, can't seem to impact on the course of the games, only provide some distraction.

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11 hours ago, BiggieD61 said:

I realize this evidence is anecdotal, but I can say from my observations that it is fruitless to bring a Hatsuhara or a Mutsuki into the Tier6/7 portion of ranked battles.  They get erased with impunity by a Mahan or a Blyskawica on the other team.  The Kiev sometimes seems to work, but they usually get spotted far enough away that cruisers feed on them quickly.  From what I have seen, best bets to carry in a DD are the Sims, Mahan and the Blyskawica.  The IJN and Soviet DD's seem to be at a disadvantage.

The Kiev probably works if you have a good captain and the Survival Expert skill.  The Japanese DDs are trash. If you bring a Mutsuki in I will be properly salty with you because it's the worst ship possible in ranked right now.

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Is it common that ranked players near top of ladder use Teamspeak or equivalent to coordinate in team? Was watching some (NA?) streamer last night, seems he was in TS with bunch of other ranked players. Each time new match started he looked who was in his team and they switched to different TS channel with team members where they could coordinate with team. Probably acceptable if everyone has chance to be in that TS voice comms but really unfair for single solo players if that solo player cannot get in that TS.

4 minutes ago, OnboardG1 said:

The Kiev probably works if you have a good captain and the Survival Expert skill.  The Japanese DDs are trash. If you bring a Mutsuki in I will be properly salty with you because it's the worst ship possible in ranked right now.

Ya only sitation where japanese DD's work is if there is lot of anti-dd support ready to help behind (gun-dd's, myoko's, schorcs). Then Mutsuki can try to just passive spot enemy dd' using superior camo and let other snipe opponent dd's. But this is too small niche to be viable imho. Also, like I have said multiple times, 2x3 torpedoes is trash for ship which is supposed to be torpedo specialist.

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So, finally forced myself to try out ranked, and it's actually prettu fun. Reached rank 15 rather fast, but i don't have any tier VII ship. Time to go up one tier, maybe ! Tiers VI I have : Warspite, New Mex, Molotov (but ony have the Bogatyr in the regular line), Cleveland, Fuso, Aoba.

Which ships are still usable, which VII should I get ?

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31 minutes ago, Sidus_Preclarum said:

So, finally forced myself to try out ranked, and it's actually prettu fun. Reached rank 15 rather fast, but i don't have any tier VII ship. Time to go up one tier, maybe ! Tiers VI I have : Warspite, New Mex, Molotov (but ony have the Bogatyr in the regular line), Cleveland, Fuso, Aoba.

Which ships are still usable, which VII should I get ?

If you have to play one of those in the higher brackets, I'd say Fuso.  It can slay cruisers and destroyers very well, but needs to be very careful against the 16" guns of the tier 7 ships.  Hopefully you're close enough to the Nagato that you'll eventually unlock it and be able to use it.

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3 hours ago, sahtila said:

Is it common that ranked players near top of ladder use Teamspeak or equivalent to coordinate in team? Was watching some (NA?) streamer last night, seems he was in TS with bunch of other ranked players. Each time new match started he looked who was in his team and they switched to different TS channel with team members where they could coordinate with team. Probably acceptable if everyone has chance to be in that TS voice comms but really unfair for single solo players if that solo player cannot get in that TS.

sounds like you were watching Dort (and OP gaming TS).

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We've done it in OMNI from time to time, but it's not very reliable because of the larger EU pop. Mostly we use it to sling shit at each other if we end up on opposite teams.

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Strange ships that actually do alright in ranked: Ryujo. Your DBs are fragile and you give up vision denial because of the one fighter BUT: It still has two excellent TBs, and the DBs are reasonable. And a huge bonus: You never need to see an air superiority Saipan. 

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Wonder if Fuso could work too, little weaker bs-vs-bs but guess lot better cruiser killer than tier 7 bb's. Just would need to find angles where enemy bb's cannot hit it while shooting cruisers

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4 hours ago, sahtila said:

Wonder if Fuso could work too, little weaker bs-vs-bs but guess lot better cruiser killer than tier 7 bb's. Just would need to find angles where enemy bb's cannot hit it while shooting cruisers

It's alright at T7 from what I've seen because of the number of guns. 

Also my Ryujo experiment might have been due to failing to click "random" before clicking "battle".

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F... this week end, So much donkeys in ranked and random that I restarted WOT for a change...

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Would it be at all advisable to try jumping into Ranked with mostly T5s? I do have a NM and Cleveland, but I am still grinding XP for the Aoba and Fuso. From what it sounds like, I may have a better time if I wait until next season.

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2 hours ago, for_SCIENCE said:

Would it be at all advisable to try jumping into Ranked with mostly T5s? I do have a NM and Cleveland, but I am still grinding XP for the Aoba and Fuso. From what it sounds like, I may have a better time if I wait until next season.

With the possible exception of the Minekaze (and Gremyaschy if you have one), probably not. I would push your New Mex and try to get to the Colorado.

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3 hours ago, for_SCIENCE said:

Would it be at all advisable to try jumping into Ranked with mostly T5s? I do have a NM and Cleveland, but I am still grinding XP for the Aoba and Fuso. From what it sounds like, I may have a better time if I wait until next season.

NM is competitive and IMO Clevelands are very competitive in R22-R15 where it's Tier 5/6. I'd recommend you at least try to get to R15, if nothing other than learning how to be a better player, get a better expectation of what rank is for next season, and get some nice signals/flags/credits while you are at it. You don't have get to rank 1 before you stop. I actually prefer rank over Random PvP simply for the shorter game and less tier spread between the two teams assuming the same group of potato players joining the queue.

Would it be better if you limit yourself to a T7 in R15+? Probably, but it certainly doesn't stop a lot of people from bringing T6s anyways. The right T6 ship in the hands of a good player can remain competitive. A Cleveland in a Tier 6/7 battle is still a good DD hunter for example. I mean, I personally would prefer to see a good player in a Cleveland than an average one in a Yorick or a Pensacola in an Tier 6/7 battle. 

P.S. Please don't grind your capt/xp/module in rank. Nothing sayz you don't care about being competitive in a competitive mode than when you show up in a stock ship. 

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Thanks to both of you. I've felt it's kind of bad etiquette to play an absolutely bone-stock ship or tank with incompletely trained crew anywhere, let alone in competitive play like Ranked.

I'll probably try it a bit with the NM later, but I think I'll hold off on serious time investment until worked farther along the tech trees.

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Finally made it to rank 12!

The combo of the Colorado, Blyskawicka and the Nagato got me there.  The Nagato is simply the easiest to use if you are comfortable brawling, flexing and dodging torps.  The Colorado is ideal if there are only 1-2 DD's per team, you will camp near your cap and simply crush the interlopers that try and invade.  The Blyskawicka has the greatest epic games ... and the most abysmal fail games.  USe when you are feeling like an unbeatbale titan of the seas, it's not a ship for wimpy play.

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30 minutes ago, BiggieD61 said:

Finally made it to rank 12!

The combo of the Colorado, Blyskawicka and the Nagato got me there.  The Nagato is simply the easiest to use if you are comfortable brawling, flexing and dodging torps.  The Colorado is ideal if there are only 1-2 DD's per team, you will camp near your cap and simply crush the interlopers that try and invade.  The Blyskawicka has the greatest epic games ... and the most abysmal fail games.  USe when you are feeling like an unbeatbale titan of the seas, it's not a ship for wimpy play.

Congrats on making it to 12 :). I wish I wasn't so derpy with DDs. I've only played 3 DD games (2 Blyskawicka, 1 sims) and all three games ended in abject failures. At which point I'd figure it's better to leave a DD spot open to someone that's at least competent and I went back to my Myoko. 

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I almost NEVER see a Sims in normal PVP matches, but I regularly see them in ranked.  Based on the things that Mesrith has said, I pay them special attention in my matches, they are VERY good in ranked, probably better than the Blys.

I am neither consistent enough nor skilled enough to make it to rank 1 based on a 53/54% win rate in ranked.  I might try and get to rank 10, but it's more likely that I will float around rank 12/11 and look for fun matches instead.  I don't think a BAD player could make it to rank 5, much less rank 1 - they would be too much of a drag on their team in a 7 v 7 format.

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20 minutes ago, BiggieD61 said:

I almost NEVER see a Sims in normal PVP matches, but I regularly see them in ranked.  Based on the things that Mesrith has said, I pay them special attention in my matches, they are VERY good in ranked, probably better than the Blys.

I am neither consistent enough nor skilled enough to make it to rank 1 based on a 53/54% win rate in ranked.  I might try and get to rank 10, but it's more likely that I will float around rank 12/11 and look for fun matches instead.  I don't think a BAD player could make it to rank 5, much less rank 1 - they would be too much of a drag on their team in a 7 v 7 format.

If you look at the ship comrade leaderboards, there are  a handful of people that ranked out with a 53% WR, and a quite a few more that's knocking on the doors of Rank 1 with a 50-53% WR. So I think Ranking out is definitely do-able with your WR. Just a matter of luck, persistence and whether or not you have enough time to play enough games to rank out I think. 

On that topic it's pretty amazing how far persistence + luck can get you. Check out Exhibit A and Exhibit B. The former have a 47% WR and is currently at rank 4 after 388 battles this season with a high watermark of rank 3. The ladder have a WR of 46% and is currently at Rank 8 with a high watermark of rank 5 after 494 battles. I don't understand how people even find the time to play that many games.

 

 

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