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Elimination: Tier 8 Premiums - Patriot's Providence (COMPLETE)

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10 minutes ago, leggasiini said:

Guys ur screwing up the points; Type 59 should be 7, not 16 and mutz should be 23.

How did T59 magically gain points anyways?

gehakte resuscitated the type by giving it like 6 points

 

type should be at 15 minimum if megumin hadn't been systematically downvoting it for days

@Megumin stahp

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M4A1 Revalorisé: 35 - 3 = 32 : It's good, but 390 alpha with 200 pen, and 40 km/h top speed doesn't get you far without someone taking the hits for you.  I feel like its overhyped, its still a support, its still paper.  Even if it is a good support for once.
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 32
Löwe:  31

T26E5 (Patriot): 31 + 1 = 32 : SuperPershing that trades camo for speed, hitpoints, armor, damage, horsepower etc etc... it has everything
Skorpion G: 25 
STA-2: 27
M46 KR: 23 
112: 23
Pz. 58 Mutz: 22
WZ-111: 16
T26E4: 14
KV-5: 10
Type 5916
T-34-3: 2 

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36 minutes ago, Fulvin said:

gehakte resuscitated the type by giving it like 6 points

 

type should be at 15 minimum if megumin hadn't been downvoting it systematically for days

@Megumin stahp

I keep denying this tank for reasons.:babyrage::babyrage::babyrage: 

Come on, meh tank is meh.

The primary reason for people to play premium tanks is to earn credits. As I said be4 a premium tank with a shit gun have NO credibility. Just look at the tanks still remaining on the list, most of them are better than type-59 for sure.

 

Also, there are tons of people in this post downvoted a same tank over and over again systematically. Just look at how FCM get eliminated.

 

 

 

Type 59 is now at 10 points, stop cheating goddammit:babyrage:

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Okay, Type 59 is at 10 now, if your last post doesnt count afterall. Fine then.

M4A1 Revalorisé: 32
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 32
Löwe:  31

T26E5 (Patriot): 32
M46 KR: 23 
112: 23
Pz. 58 Mutz: 22
WZ-111: 16
T26E4: 14
KV-5: 10 + 1 = 11 FIGHT UNTIL DEATH COMRADE!!!
Type 5910
T-34-3: 2 - 3 = -1. IT HAS GUN THAT IS VARIANT OF D-25T SO GO TO FUCKING HELL

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M4A1 Revalorisé: 32
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 32
Löwe:  31

T26E5 (Patriot): 32
Skorpion G: 25
M46 KR: 23 
112: 23 + 1 = 24, RR22 to increase winrate
Pz. 58 Mutz: 22 - 3 = 19, gun is a variant of French 90mm and therefore :QBFlip:, trolled me so many times it's unreal
WZ-111: 16
T26E4: 14
KV-5: 11
Type 5910

Legga sniped the Skorpion DansGame

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3 hours ago, Megumin said:

I keep denying this tank for reasons.:babyrage::babyrage::babyrage: 

Come on, meh tank is meh.

The primary reason for people to play premium tanks is to earn credits. As I said be4 a premium tank with a shit gun have NO credibility. Just look at the tanks still remaining on the list, most of them are better than type-59 for sure.

type is a great for credits. 252 credit AP rounds with high credit multiplier means 50k just for leaving the base.

maybe you'd have more success with making money if you didn't spam APCR :kappa:

if you miss/bounce three APCR shells then you've just cut 13.2k off your earnings, so better not shoot any at all if you're in it for credits.

it's honestly not that bad. bully low tiers and stuff you can pen, and don't fight IS-3s head on

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M4A1 Revalorisé: 32
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 32
Löwe:  31

T26E5 (Patriot): 32
Skorpion G: 25 - 3 = 22 As much as I love playing this, winning in it is a huge pain.

STA-2: 27 + 1 = 28 Good tank now, it's got a nice mix of things that aren't armor.
M46 KR: 23 
112: 24
Pz. 58 Mutz: 19
WZ-111: 16
T26E4: 14
KV-5: 11
Type 5910

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5 hours ago, Fulvin said:

type is a great for credits. 252 credit AP rounds with high credit multiplier means 50k just for leaving the base.

maybe you'd have more success with making money if you didn't spam APCR :kappa:

if you miss/bounce three APCR shells then you've just cut 13.2k off your earnings, so better not shoot any at all if you're in it for credits.

it's honestly not that bad. bully low tiers and stuff you can pen, and don't fight IS-3s head on

:jebaited:Your shells hit the dirt 5 out of 10 times, snap shots make it 8 out of 10 times, this is how type 59's gun works.

 

181 pen AP with potato gun handling is only going to be capable of bullying low tier.

 

High credit multiplier still require you to do damage, potato gun makes it hard to do damage which means no credit.

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10 hours ago, Rexxie said:

IIRC the Blackdog is one of the worst performers in the game, so it surprised me too. But I havent gotten to try it in strongholds, so maybe that really does make it worth it.

In SH's, its superb. Low shell velocity and such matter so much less. Very easy to grind credits and crews in this

 

M4A1 Revalorisé: 32
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 33 - Still the best
Löwe:  31
T26E5 (Patriot): 32
Skorpion G: 22 
STA-2: 28
M46 KR: 23 
112: 24
Pz. 58 Mutz: 19
WZ-111: 16
T26E4: 14
KV-5: 8 - Worst of the remaining tanks. Its a meme. A fun one, but come on... 217 max pen, obvious weak spots? No thanks
Type 59: 10

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M4A1 Revalorisé: 32
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 33
Löwe:  31
T26E5 (Patriot): 32
Skorpion G: 22 
STA-2: 28
M46 KR: 23 
112: 24
Pz. 58 Mutz: 19
WZ-111: 16
T26E4: 14-3=11 Slow and clunky with nothing to stop people from easily penning you, with nothing special to lash back with.
KV-5: 8 + 1 = 9 The yolo and carry potential of this thing is second to none, except maybe the new 252, but that remains to be seen
Type 59: 10

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M4A1 Revalorisé: 32-3 = 29 This tank is being waaaaaaaayyyyy overrated right now. Yeah, it's a lot better but it doesn't even come close to some of these other tanks. As @CraBeatOff put it the other day "this tank is farmer trash."
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 33
Löwe:  31
T26E5 (Patriot): 32
Skorpion G: 22 
STA-2: 28
M46 KR: 23 
112: 24
Pz. 58 Mutz: 19
WZ-111: 16
T26E4: 11
KV-5: 9
Type 59: 10+1 = 11 - Maybe not the best tank on this list, but it doesn't deserve to go yet. Pref MM and fantastic armor keep you trolling the pubbies.

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M4A1 Revalorisé: 29
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 33
Löwe:  31
T26E5 (Patriot): 32
Skorpion G: 22 
STA-2: 28
M46 KR: 23 

112: 25 - Just to show i'm not a filthy medium tank padder and bad.  Seriously, this is by far the strongest of the pref MM heavies and arguably the only one that is at least capable of being a credible roadblock to the strongest same-tier heavies or the tier 9 fascist box tanks and bento boxes.  Don't believe me?  Go look at this versus the IS-3 and VKB/E-75/Type 4 in tanks.gg, and then do the same comparison for the IS-6.  Against the boxes, 112 UFP is easily strong enough to reliably resist their AP (and even their APCR rounds) enough to get bounces and slow down a push, and 250 HEAT is a much more credible deterrent than 217 APCR.  IS-6 is swiss cheese armor-wise, and the 217 APCR is ~15% chance to penetrate against the weakest parts of their flat armor.  The IS-6 can at least survive a little while against the IS-3, but is still in the ~50% range pen-wise with APCR, and will get shredded even by IS-3 AP, whereas the 112 can easily bounce IS-3 AP (and even APCR) off the UFP, and is more in the 65-85% range pen-wise with HEAT.
Pz. 58 Mutz: 19
WZ-111: 16
T26E4: 11

KV-5: 6 - Stronk ramming memes do not negate the hilariously obvious weak spots.  Not a terrible tank, but definitely the weakest one left.
Type 59: 11

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M4A1 Revalorisé: 29 - 3 = 26  What Marine said.
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 33
Löwe:  31 
T26E5 (Patriot): 32

Skorpion G: 22 + 1 = 23  It's alpha and speed still triggers hatred. Gud! 
STA-2: 28
M46 KR: 23 

112: 25 
Pz. 58 Mutz: 19
WZ-111: 16
T26E4: 11

KV-5: 6 
Type 59: 11

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M4A1 Revalorisé: 26
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 33
Löwe:  31 
T26E5 (Patriot): 32

Skorpion G: 23 
STA-2: 28 
M46 KR: 23 

112: 25 
Pz. 58 Mutz: 19
WZ-111: 16

T26E4: 11-3=8: well, i bought it back just to train crews, this tank is utter shit even after the buffs, armour is useless, tier 7s can pen you and when there's arty, you're just dead.
KV-5: 6+1=7: best tier 8 premium heavy by far: fun, ability to carry games, huge hp pool, best dpm at tier 8 and the gun actually works in tier 8 matches (unlike 122mm russian derps), i don't know why people hate it so much.
Type 59: 11

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M4A1 Revalorisé: 26 – 3 = 23 I also believe this one is being overrated, it’s gun is fun but no armor is awful.
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 33
Löwe:  31 
T26E5 (Patriot): 32

Skorpion G: 23 

STA-2: 28 + 1 = 29 Still believe this is the best Prem.
M46 KR: 23 
112: 25 
Pz. 58 Mutz: 19
WZ-111: 16

T26E4: 8
KV-5: 7
Type 59: 11

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On 2/16/2017 at 11:54 PM, TohtoriP said:

What is this?!

Pref MM JT88 voted first out? Then CDC?

But FV4202 still at 14 points?? How on earth is it better than either of those tanks?? Please educate me.

I think this list is failing already.

All the minuses CDC has except vulnerabilty to HE does also the FV4202 have. But CDC has 1200 hp and 57 top speed and more DPM and better alpha and ammo cost is one third of FV4202. If you hate CDC so much, I am willing to trade my FV4202 for your CDC this instant. Where do I sign?

FV4202 (Prius) doesn't have t9 frontal armor with driver's weakspot and nearly 2800 dpm, and it doesn't have 57km/h forward speed @ 35.6hp/ton.

What it does have are 0.32 accuracy, 2.21 aim time, great terrain resists and 170mm turret armor with an autobounce roof once you're past SFA amounts of gun depression. The 50mm @ 55º UFP isn't quite as good as the 60mm @ 59ºroof (immune to everything but HE, 183mm landsharks and skycancer) but the lower/middle of the mantlet is also good and with a bit of wiggling (turn your gun toward the cheek getting shot at) the turret cheeks (85mm @ 55º) quickly go from all-pen to all-bounce. Cupola is small, tank can runaway to relocate fast enough and thanks to the buffs and boosts is now fairly versatile. Plus the 230 alpha is compensated by higher ROF - this is ideal for poking a ridge and tracking sometime 300m away for its whole HP.

That's how I 3 marked it anyhow - most players play to it's weaknesses then think it's a shitty Type 59 (which it is if you play it like that), but it does actually have some strengths - and it has just enough speed to keep you out of trouble if you're too aggressive in the CDC etc, like me.

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M4A1 Revalorisé: 23
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 33
Löwe:  31 
T26E5 (Patriot): 32+1:33 All bow to the most overpowered HT released to date. Frontal hull is un-Americanly thick, and the turret is arguably one of the best ones of any US heavy tank due to the cupola being so small and well armored. Gun is adequate for its purpose, and the only weak point is the mobility.

Skorpion G: 23 
STA-2: 29 
M46 KR: 23 

112: 25 
Pz. 58 Mutz: 19
WZ-111: 16-3=13: Frontal ammo racks and fires make this heavy tank worthless at being a heavy tank. It has typical trash chinese gun handling, the only "good" thing about this tank is the 250 pen heat shell, which makes it at least capable of penning T9 heavies. Not that you would actually hit things like lower plates at more than 50m though. 

T26E4: 8: 

KV-5: 7:
Type 59: 11

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Now ppl realized ravioli is overrated.

 

 

:jebaited:

 

M4A1 Revalorisé: 23
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 33
Löwe:  31 
T26E5 (Patriot):33+1=34 This thing is just too strong as a premium, weaker armor compare to the t32 but hey this is a premium tank.
Skorpion G: 23 
STA-2: 29 
M46 KR: 23 
112: 25 
Pz. 58 Mutz: 19
WZ-111: 13
T26E4: 8: 

KV-5: 7:
Type 59: 11-3=8 There are other tanks can be used to bully the pubbies, the gun makes you choke before you make the pubbies choke. JUST NO, PLZ NO. Only t-34-3 is worse. 

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M4A1 Revalorisé: 23
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 33
Löwe:  31+1=32 This tank is a little bit better than AMX and E5.  A little bit.
T26E5 (Patriot):34
Skorpion G: 23 
STA-2: 29 
M46 KR: 23 
112: 25 
Pz. 58 Mutz: 19
WZ-111: 13
T26E4: 8: 

KV-5: 7:

Type 59: 8

I have no downvote to give.  The only ones I'm tempted to downvote are tanks I've never really played, which seems counterproductive.  I cede my downvote to the next voter as long as it's not the KV-5 or T26E4.  

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M4A1 Revalorisé: 23
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 33 + 1= 34 I never had issues ammo rack or dead crews when run food & double rep kit. This tank is pretty good armor w/o side scrape and gun handling is okay for me. Vent+remmer+GLD it boosting lower dispersion and aim time. I finished 3 marks only take for 2-3 days when this tank on sale/release and it very amazing tank. 
Löwe:  31 
T26E5 (Patriot):34
Skorpion G: 23 
STA-2: 29 
M46 KR: 23 
112: 25 
Pz. 58 Mutz: 19
WZ-111: 13
T26E4: 8: 

KV-5: 7: - 3 = 4 my reason stop playing KV5 this tank supposed to be good at pref MM tier 8 and I never stuck into tier 9 game in long time ago (2011-2012/13). In long time ago, there would be much fun, much fun unlike current KV5 standing against few tier 8 and more low tier and you get brilliant credit maker (150k - 500k++) compare with T59. KV5 armor should be revised/correctly but in the end its became useless into tier 9 games. I am not wrong unlike other tier 8 heavy more pen can pen anything like horizontal wall armor angle. I would say this KV5 will be dead iconic of world of tanks.

Type 59: 8

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