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Elimination: Tier 8 Premiums - Patriot's Providence (COMPLETE)

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Type 59: 18: 
WZ-111: 18
112: 22

T-34-3: 15-3=12 derpy AF for a med, worse hype 59, and worse than the chinese heavy trainers, and with the 113

being so good, not as useful. buy a 112 or wz-111 instead
59-Patton: 8
FCM 50 t: 24
M4A1 Rev.: 24
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 21
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 23
Panther 88: 20
Löwe:  30:  

Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 20
STA-2: 24 +1 = 25 better than you think and better than the STA-1. All buffs have seen to that. only lose 6 AP pen and get taller but

everything else is the same or better. plus trains a CW tank crew.
FV4202 (P): 5;
M46 KR: 21
T26E5 (Patriot): 25
IS-6 (Black): 13
KV-5: 20
T-44-100: 22

T34: 17

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Type 59: 18: 
WZ-111: 18 +1 = 19 the buffs to gun handling and mobility make it a viable medium. Massive alpha. Yes a medium with workable armor. Faster than FV4202 for example.
112: 22
T-34-3: 12
59-Patton: 8
FCM 50 t: 24
M4A1 Rev.: 24
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 21
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 23
Panther 88: 20
Löwe:  30:  

Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 20
STA-2: 25
FV4202 (P): 5 - 3 =2; I have stated the reason already in above posts. Crap gun handling, crap DPM, crap speed, iffy armor. This turd needs to go.
M46 KR: 21
T26E5 (Patriot): 25
IS-6 (Black): 13
KV-5: 20
T-44-100: 22

T34: 17

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10 minutes ago, TohtoriP said:


FV4202 (P): 5 - 3 =2; I have stated the reason already in above posts. Crap gun handling, crap DPM, crap speed, iffy armor. This turd needs to go.

Amén my brother. I hate this fucking thing. 

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Type 59: 18: 
WZ-111: 19 
112: 22
T-34-3: 12 
59-Patton: 8
FCM 50 t: 24-3 = 21 I hate this tank, huge and paper. Arty always farm damage on it.
M4A1 Rev.: 24
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 21
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 23
Panther 88: 20
Löwe:  30:  
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 20+1 = 21 Troll turrent, good gun and excellent depression. It is a best tank in my opinion.
STA-2: 25 
FV4202 (P): 2
M46 KR: 21
T26E5 (Patriot): 25
IS-6 (Black): 13
KV-5: 20
T-44-100: 22
T34: 17

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14 minutes ago, Archaic_One said:

I get that the Lowe got a great buff, but the highest scoring tier 8 prem so far and not even pref MM?  Y'all need to chickity check yourselves before you wreck yourselves.

The löwe is a literal T8 monster. The armor and gun are good enough to fight T10 meds/heavies on equal footing. The only thing you have to watch out for is yolo rushes and T9/10 tds spamming gold into your gun. Seriously. I have continued to get monster games in T10 with it. That and it literally has the best credit making potential.

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2 hours ago, FabiogtwZ said:

Amén my brother. I hate this fucking thing. 

Eh, it could be worse, and it does have buffs incoming with 17.1, same as Panther 8.8...

I feel as though it is foolish to rank without anticipating those buffs, since the tanks will change in approximately a week's time/by the end of the month.

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Type 59: 18: 
WZ-111: 19 
112: 22
T-34-3: 12 
59-Patton: 8
FCM 50 t: 21
M4A1 Rev.: 25 You get to make terrible jokes about giving people the formuoli 
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 21
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 23
Panther 88: 20
Löwe:  30:  
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 21
STA-2: 25 
FV4202 (P): 2
M46 KR: 21
T26E5 (Patriot): 25
IS-6 (Black): 10 Used to be king shit of fuck mountain. Now with bento boxes running rampant along with a bunch of other tanks getting armor buffs this thing is just a sad potato of a tank.
KV-5: 20
T-44-100: 22
T34: 17

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48 minutes ago, SkittlesOfSteeI said:

Type 59: 18: 
WZ-111: 19 
112: 22
T-34-3: 12 
59-Patton: 8-3=5 its the worst tank still here. I would rather drive a 4202 or a kanonpanzer than this thing.
FCM 50 t: 21+1=22 - Still literally the best pref MM tank in the game. And it still holds up againt tier 10s, and the current new batch of prer 8s. Its a big fat medium with heavy tank HP,  great view range, and the ability to angle and sidecrape to a degree that allows you to bounce way more than you would think. 
M4A1 Rev. 25
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 21
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 23
Panther 88: 20
Löwe:  30:  
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 21
STA-2: 25 
FV4202 (P): 2
M46 KR: 21
T26E5 (Patriot): 25
IS-6 (Black): 10
KV-5: 20
T-44-100: 22
T34: 17

mobile editimg is aids, wont let me remove the quote or change the colours. 

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Type 59: 18: 
WZ-111: 19 
112: 22
T-34-3: 12 
59-Patton: 5 Underwhelming in all aspects. Not that fast, gun is somehow a blend of american comfort and chinese unreliability but in a bad way, and the armor is a joke due to the massive tumor that rivals the M60.
FCM 50 t: 21
M4A1 Rev.: 25 
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 22 Somehow the first french HT with armor to have ever come into the game, and boy-oh-boy does it have a lot. Frontally this thing is pretty much immune to anything same tier or below, prem rounds or not. Cupola exists, but is small enough to be a difficult shot at anything but close range. Gun handling is also typically french with long aim time, but its slow enough to keep bloom under control. By far my favorite tank to carry stronghold games in.
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 23
Panther 88: 20
Löwe:  30:  
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 21
STA-2: 25 
FV4202 (P): 2
M46 KR: 21
T26E5 (Patriot): 25
IS-6 (Black):
KV-5: 20
T-44-100: 22
T34: 17

T26E4: 19

 

WHERE THE FUCK DID MY SUPER PERSHING GO WTF????

 

edit: @FabiogtwZ YOU GOT RID OF MY SUPER PERSHING YOU WHORE.

problem has been fixed.

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Type 59: 18: 
WZ-111: 19 
112: 22
T-34-3: 12 
59-Patton: 5 
FCM 50 t: 21
M4A1 Rev.: 26 Lol Alpha with decent enough mobility, gun depression and auto-aim esque shell velocity. Point and click tank to do dmg and great for cleaning up low HP tanks
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 22 
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 23
Panther 88: 20
Löwe:  30:  
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 21
STA-2: 25 
FV4202 (P): 2
M46 KR: 21
T26E5 (Patriot): 25
IS-6 (Black): 7 At least the T34 has decent pen to punch through some of the super-heavies, this how been a victim of powercreep and nerfed into oblivion because of it
KV-5: 20
T-44-100: 22
T34: 17 

T26E4: 19

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Type 59: 18: 
WZ-111: 19 
112: 22
T-34-3: 12 
59-Patton: 5 
FCM 50 t: 21
M4A1 Rev.: 26 + 1 = 27. alpha + amazing gun handling (for that alpha) + view range + gun depression + shell velocity. Whats not to like, and not t omention the HEAT is so trash i never fire it so it shits credits like mad. liked it even prebuff lmao
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 22 
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 23
Panther 88: 20
Löwe:  30:  
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 21
STA-2: 25 
FV4202 (P): 2
M46 KR: 21
T26E5 (Patriot): 25
IS-6 (Black): 7
KV-5: 20
T-44-100: 22 - 3 = 19. Lol @ this thing being this high. Its worse than Mod1 when top tier, better when bottom tier (but still bad like most tier 8 mediums). It has average armor with meh overall gun. Not to mention you either had to get it through pretty annoying and grindy marathon or pay ridicuously high amount of money (50 euros!!!) to get it. I just didnt enjoy it, its just average at best at everything it tries to do.
T34: 17

T26E4: 19

 

EDIT: added +1 to revalorise and -3 to IS-6 as of due to post above

 

EDIT V2: @Rexxie i think you forgot the elimination list?

 

1. JT 88

2. Kanonenjagdpanzer

3. CDC

4. T-54 Mod1

 

 

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18 hours ago, Luna said:

CDC also has one of the worst terrain resist values in the game making most of that HP worthless. I've never played the 4202, but I'm reasonably confident that the gun handling on it is nowhere near as bad as the CDC. It's just a fast tank with depression, but overall it's still pretty bad.

The numbers are exactly the same, so with the speed buff next patch its gonna have just as bad gun handling.

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Type 59: 18-3=15: yes once it was good, it's  just bad now, it has absolutely nothing except prefmm 
WZ-111: 19 
112: 22
T-34-3: 12 
59-Patton: 5 
FCM 50 t: 21
M4A1 Rev.: 27+1=28: everything is just perfect in this tank, alpha accuracy depression
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 22 
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 23
Panther 88: 20
Löwe:  30:  
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 21
STA-2: 25 
FV4202 (P): 2
M46 KR: 21
T26E5 (Patriot): 25

IS6  (Black): 7
KV-5: 20
T-44-100: 22
T34: 17 

T26E4: 19

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44 minutes ago, TohtoriP said:

59-Patton and FCM are still with wrong points.

 

FIXED

 

 

 

Type 59: 15
WZ-111: 19 
112: 22
T-34-3: 12 
59-Patton: 2 
FCM 50 t: 22
M4A1 Rev.: 28
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 22 
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 23
Panther 88: 20
Löwe:  30:  
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 21
STA-2: 25 
FV4202 (P): 2
M46 KR: 21
T26E5 (Patriot): 25

IS6  (Black): 7
KV-5: 20
T-44-100: 22
T34: 17 

T26E4: 19

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Type 59: 15 
WZ-111: 19 
112: 22
T-34-3: 12 
59-Patton: 2 
FCM 50 t: 22
M4A1 Rev.: 28+1=29: it has become my new favourite tank for strongholds, awesome gun, mobility is meh, but who cares, it's a great support tank and dishes out damage like nothing else in tier. shell velocity is also a + point, makes leading targets easier and it feels extremely good to snipe a LT at 500m running at full speed :kreygasm:
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 22 
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 23
Panther 88: 20
Löwe:  30:  
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 21
STA-2: 25 
FV4202 (P): 2
M46 KR: 21
T26E5 (Patriot): 25

IS6  (Black): 7-3=4: it once used to be my favourite tier 8 premium tank, now you're lucky if you can pen a IS3 frontally with apcr while he pens you 10/10 times, gun handling is cancer, coupled with a paltry 217mm apcr pen, you're not doing much against all those recently buffed tanks. it's funny because i'm about to 3 mark it but damn, the only "good" thing about it is the armour.
KV-5: 20
T-44-100: 22
T34: 17 

T26E4: 19

 

P.S. I'd upvote the kv5 as well, because even though it has the same shitty gun as the t150/a44, it works way better than the classic 122mm d-25-t (or D-30 on the IS6)

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I am just sad that i missed this thread and was unable to remove the CDC myself. I am also mad that you guy's removed the Mod1 so early but i will forgive you since you removed the CDC first. :bigdoge:

 

Type 59: 15 
WZ-111: 19 
112: 22
T-34-3: 12 
59-Patton: 2 
FCM 50 t: 22
M4A1 Rev.: 29
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 22 
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 23
Panther 88: 20
Löwe:  30:  
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 21
STA-2: 25 
FV4202 (P): 2
M46 KR: 21
T26E5 (Patriot): 25+1=26 if this doesn't win you guy's have consumed some heavy drugs.. 

IS6  (Black): 4
KV-5: 20
T-44-100: 22
T34: 17-3=14 How is this still here but the mod1 isn't ??  

T26E4: 19

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Type 59: 15 
WZ-111: 19 
112: 22
T-34-3: 12 
59-Patton: 2 
FCM 50 t: 22
M4A1 Rev.: 29
AMX M4 49 (Liberté): 22 
leKpz M41 90mm:  21
Skorpion G: 23 + 1 = 24; bad camo wont screw this tank with its 500 alpha gun. Also, you can just fix that with crew skills and camo net. Mobile while carrying a bigger punch than the T34? now thats just bullshit.
Panther 88: 20
Löwe:  30:  
Pz. 58 Mutz (Black): 21
STA-2: 25 
FV4202 (P): 2
M46 KR: 21
T26E5 (Patriot): 26

IS6  (Black): 4
KV-5: 20
T-44-100: 22
T34: 14 - 3 = 11; Whats the point of having a strong turret if you got a massive tumor on top of it? Also, being hull-down is just not a thing anymore with those cancerous rushing autoloading mediums clipping you to hell and SuperHeavy tanks blowing you up with 150mm HE guns. 400 alpha doesnt justify 14 secs reload with crew at 100%. Everything in this tank blows except the pen, which is unreliable because shit gun handling

T26E4: 19

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